Coffee in Poland: cheap and undrinkable / expensive and good

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Dec 13, 11, 15:04 #61

JonnyM:

In Warsaw, Green Coffee (a local company) is expanding and is a class apart.

actually the owner is a royal a hole, particularly from a business perspective. and for some people it matters that he is a jew. I don't care about that. I don't think the coffee is so great and I don't like that they keep their foods sitting out for hours without being refrigerated.
I like starbucks because you get a good sized coffee. I also like coffee heaven but I have found that they are becoming more like an american wannabe since they sold to the Brits.

They're not paying for the coffee, they're paying for the image. Look at me, I drink in Starbucks, I'm SOMEONE.

this is poland- that is the only thing that matters- why people drive expensive cars and wear name brand clothing- so that people will notice them.

I like the taste of starbucks- i buy the whole bean and have a latte at home- but I also prefer very strong tasting coffee.

If you are in Warsaw there is an awesome place on Pulawska just past Plac Konst. called Esspressions. It is owned by an Italian who is also the cook. They have amazing pasta and sandwiches and of course the coffee is super. They also sell expresso makers from Italy for outrageous prices. There is also a small deli where you can buy Italian wines, meats and cheeses.

HarryThreads: 62 Posts: 8,508 Joined: May 2, 07 ♂ [Suspended]	Dec 13, 11, 15:14 #62
pip: I don't think the coffee is so great and I don't like that they keep their foods sitting out for hours without being refrigerated. I'm also not a fan of the coffee at Green Coffee. pip: I also like coffee heaven but I have found that they are becoming more like an american wannabe since they sold to the Brits. Er, it has always been British owned.

pipThreads: 11 Posts: 1,293 Joined: Jul 4, 11 ♀	Edited by: pip Dec 13, 11, 15:24 #63
Harry: Er, it has always been British owned. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coffeeheaven I thought the original start up was Polish and then they sold to Costa coffee. If I am wrong- let me just change my statement to say that I think the coffee has gone too American since the original owners sold out.

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Dec 13, 11, 15:29 #64

pip:

I thought the original start up was Polish and then they sold to Costa coffee. If I am wrong- let me just change my statement to say that I think the coffee has gone too American since the original owners sold out.

As far as I remember, the original people were two Brits and a Norwegian guy.

This article seems to at least partly support my memory: http://www.accountancyage.com/aa/feature/1767294/insider-profile-richa rd-worthington-coffeeheaven-founder

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Dec 13, 11, 16:10 #65

delph wrote:

You do realise that in a place like Wroclaw, there's plenty of people aged between 16-25 with wealthy parents who support them?

besides the point. read what i wrote. the kids partying it up in the bars and clubs all don't have rich parents. they just like to get drunk. they also like to drink Starbucks coffee which costs just a couple more zl's than a beer at the bars.....only, they don't drink 5 at a time. beer however.....

delph wrote:

Incidentally, I don't know any students who live off soup packets and paczek. Where'd you meet such people?

You can't live in Poland and post that.

JonnyMThreads: 16 Posts: 4,487 Joined: Mar 9, 11 ♂	Dec 13, 11, 16:27 #66
FUZZYWICKETS: so in other words, they do what every single other big company does or is currently trying to do. There's a lot to be said for supporting locally owned companies. Karma in pl Zbawicela is also OK as is Cup of Pleasure on Nowy Swiat.

pipThreads: 11 Posts: 1,293 Joined: Jul 4, 11 ♀	Dec 13, 11, 17:00 #67
Harry: This article seems to at least partly support my memory: ok -so the founder was a brit living in poland who has since sold to costas- it was listed as a polish company owned by a brit- semanitics I know- but the point is that they changed ownership. so we are both right.

HarryThreads: 62 Posts: 8,508 Joined: May 2, 07 ♂ [Suspended]	Dec 13, 11, 17:35 #68
pip: so the founder was a brit living in poland who has since sold to costas- it was listed as a polish company owned by a brit- semanitics I know- but the point is that they changed ownership. The founders were two Brits and a Norwegian JonnyM: There's a lot to be said for supporting locally owned companies. Karma in pl Zbawicela is also OK That's owned by an American, isn't it?

PennBoyThreads: 157 Posts: 3,440 Joined: Dec 7, 08 ♂	Edited by: PennBoy Dec 13, 11, 19:13 #69
delphiandomine: Not a "laptop", but a Mac. Must be a Mac. :) A Mac is a type of a laptop Delphie , you know a notebook portable computer ;-) I know you meant it has to be a Mac specifically but they've been doin' the Starbucks thing way before Macs came out.

aphrodisiacThreads: 22 Posts: 3,998 Joined: Apr 15, 09 ♀	Jan 2, 12, 06:52 #70
delphiandomine: The only good thing about Starbucks in Poland is that you're more or less guaranteed that the service won't suck. if that's the case, I rather have coffee there, then anywhere else.

FUZZYWICKETSThreads: 12 Posts: 1,997 Joined: Nov 3, 09 ♂	Jan 2, 12, 15:54 #71
aphrodisiac: if that's the case, I rather have coffee there, then anywhere else. Aphro, we have more in common than you may think :)

valpomikeThreads: 20 Posts: 244 Joined: Apr 20, 09 ♂	Jan 2, 12, 17:52 #72
I like Inka, and it comes from Poland. Give it a try, if you can find it. I have to go to Chicago to get it, but it is worth the drive, and it is better for you, also. Mike

HarryThreads: 62 Posts: 8,508 Joined: May 2, 07 ♂ [Suspended]	Jan 2, 12, 18:02 #73
valpomike: I like Inka, and it comes from Poland. Not actually coffee though.

JonnyMThreads: 16 Posts: 4,487 Joined: Mar 9, 11 ♂	Jan 2, 12, 18:03 #74
valpomike: I like Inka, and it comes from Poland. Give it a try, if you can find it. I have to go to Chicago to get it, but it is worth the drive, and it is better for you, also. You do realise that isn't actually coffee, don't you? It's a thing called Ersatzkaffee, invented by the Germans during the war. And which tastes disgusting. If you don't want caffeine, try decaff instead.

WroclawThreads: 77 Posts: 7,404 Joined: Apr 1, 06 ♂ [Moderator]	Jan 2, 12, 18:11 #75
JonnyM: You do realise that isn't actually coffee, somtimes called 'childrens coffee' because (older) kids can drink it. JonnyM: And which tastes disgusting. one can develop a taste for it and it's very cheap.

HarryThreads: 62 Posts: 8,508 Joined: May 2, 07 ♂ [Suspended]	Jan 2, 12, 18:17 #76
Wroclaw: one can develop a taste for it and it's very cheap. One could say the same about cherry wine but that doesn't mean it is in any way similar to wine (or cherries for that matter).

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Edited by: JonnyM Jan 2, 12, 18:18 #77

Wroclaw:

somtimes called 'childrens coffee' because (older) kids can drink it.

Kids (even young ones) can drink the real thing. A toddler might baulk at the thought of an espresso ristretto, but surely one of those dreadful latte things with all the milk would appeal.

Wroclaw:

one can develop a taste for it and it's very cheap.

The latter is undoubtedly true and the former is quite plausible given some of the foul concoctions on the market.

HarryThreads: 62 Posts: 8,508 Joined: May 2, 07 ♂ [Suspended]	Jan 2, 12, 18:22 #78
JonnyM: A toddler might baulk at the thought of an espresso ristretto Not at all. The trick is to add about 20 spoonfuls of sugar (which gives the bonus of the adorable creature's parents having to deal with both a sugar rush and a caffeine buzz).

JonnyMThreads: 16 Posts: 4,487 Joined: Mar 9, 11 ♂	Edited by: JonnyM Jan 2, 12, 18:23 #79
Harry: Not at all. The trick is to add about 20 spoonfuls of sugar (which gives the bonus of the adorable creature's parents having to deal with both a sugar rush and a caffeine buzz). That's the kind of thing you do right at the end of the custody visit, just after buying the really loud toys. When I was a kiddy I used to love Irish coffee - still do.

WroclawThreads: 77 Posts: 7,404 Joined: Apr 1, 06 ♂ [Moderator]	Jan 2, 12, 18:27 #80
JonnyM: Kids (even young ones) can drink the real thing. true, but in Poland it seems that coffee doesn't get introduced until one is a teenager. my teenage kids won't drink it though. they don't drink much tea either.

JonnyMThreads: 16 Posts: 4,487 Joined: Mar 9, 11 ♂	Jan 2, 12, 18:30 #81
Wroclaw: they don't drink much tea either. A few times Poles have told me that tea with milk is for kids. But in PL they make tea very weak anyway. Also, I've known Poles who won't let their kids eat ice-cream - some nonsense about it being bad for the throat. Back to coffee - have you tried Blikle black coffee sorbet? They do a chocolate sorbet too.

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Jan 2, 12, 18:37 #82

JonnyM:

Also, I've known Poles who won't let their kids eat ice-cream - some nonsense about it being bad for the throat.

hahahaha, that should go under that "Polish Myths" thread. one of many funny Polish myths about health. they're convinced that drinking something too cold, especially in the winter, can give you a sore throat. man, if i had a nickel for every time i was told that. My grandmother used to say the same thing and she was from old school poland, i guess that's where today's generations get it from.

WroclawThreads: 77 Posts: 7,404 Joined: Apr 1, 06 ♂ [Moderator]	Jan 2, 12, 18:43 #83
JonnyM: Back to coffee - have you tried Blikle black coffee sorbet? They do a chocolate sorbet too. the only time i go posh is when waiting for a train at berlin hbf. but i still walk past starbucks to get to dunkin donuts. maybe not so posh after all. btw, the queue is always longer at starbucks so i guess they win the popularity stakes.

JonnyMThreads: 16 Posts: 4,487 Joined: Mar 9, 11 ♂	Edited by: JonnyM Jan 2, 12, 18:45 #84
Blikle is a bit posh for me too. Though since a few years ago they were serving Mokate powdered cappucino, perhaps it isn't that posh at all. I suspect that woman who runs Mokate was giving them it free so the filthy muck was sen to be used there. On a warm summer day, it's nice to have an Ice Cream on Nowy Swiat, and they aren't much dearer than the others along there.

patrickThreads: 9 Posts: 118 Joined: Aug 3, 11 ♂	Jan 2, 12, 19:13 #85
You may want to try buying coffee in bulk from one of those bulk-food stores like Selgros. In the States such places sell, for example, whole bean coffee from Starbucks but at a reduced price since you have to buy at least a kilo or two. I don't know if they sell decent coffee in bulk at Selgros, but it's worth a shot.

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Edited by: JonnyM Jan 2, 12, 20:11 #86

patrick:

You may want to try buying coffee in bulk from one of those bulk-food stores like Selgros. In the States such places sell, for example, whole bean coffee from Starbucks but at a reduced price since you have to buy at least a kilo or two. I don't know if they sell decent coffee in bulk at Selgros, but it's worth a shot.

Both Selgros and Makro sell decent coffee beans in bulk. I haven't tried it from Selgros, but if I remember, Makro is really cheap and good. Buying online from Allegro can be a good bet too, if you like good coffee really cheap..

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