PolishForums.com
POLAND . The Unofficial Guide
Unanswered | Archives
Polska, Polonia, Poland Witamy, Guest | PF Members | Gold Members

Polish Forums / Food, Drink /

Name of Polish soup [barszcz]?


page 2 of 3:  « Prev  1  2  3  Next » posts: 71

plk123Threads: 30
Posts: 6,412
Joined: Aug 29, 07
 Pictures: 2
 Dec 4, 07, 21:19    #31
Quoting: Tamara
I wonder if many people make it this way or just use vinegar or lemon juice to sour it"

one can buy "starter" at the store.

hancockThreads: 1
Posts: 118
Joined: Oct 18, 07
 Dec 4, 07, 23:19    #32
if my poor matka was alive today she would be turning in her grave laughing. she would just love a computer and be reading all this crap.
Teri  Mar 18, 08, 11:19    #33
I am trying to find a recipe that has mushrooms in the Barszcz. I grew up with this soup every Easter, however once my Babci past away, the trade secrets were never past one. We would have this soup and once placed on the table we would add fried potatoes to it. Does anyone know of this soup and what kind of mushrooms (I believe they come from poland)
DaveyThreads: 17
Posts: 436
Joined: Jun 29, 07
 Mar 18, 08, 11:58    #34
I adore barszcz! Especially with eggs and potatoes mmmm
plk123Threads: 30
Posts: 6,412
Joined: Aug 29, 07
 Pictures: 2
 Mar 18, 08, 12:06    #35
Teri wrote:
Teri

never heard of it this way. maybe it's mushrom soup and not borsch?
sausageThreads: 25
Posts: 1,053
Joined: Sep 21, 07
 Mar 18, 08, 12:06    #36
or zurek?
Barbara  Mar 21, 08, 07:51    #37
BORSCHT - This is what I grew up with as our traditional Easter breakfast meal. My Mom also added some cream to the stock. In the bowl we added a touch of horseradish instead of more vinigar. I have never found anyone who has shared this version or tradition. This is so cool. We have it once a year. Happy Easter!
angelface  Mar 21, 08, 23:15    #38
Please search the word Borscht on Wikipedia. Although the information is not very thorough, you will find that this is the Russian spelling.
lynneThreads: -
Posts: 1
Joined: Mar 23, 08
 Mar 23, 08, 15:17    #39
Growing up, the Easter soup we ate was made of some type of fermented grain. I am not sure but, I always thought my uncle started making this soup at the beginning of lent. by Easter, the big glass jar would have a top layer of "something" that you would have to scoop away to get the broth. At that point, it was diluted with water, and you added your horseradish, your pieces of easter ham, your easter eggs, potatoe,and dipped your rye bread into it as you ate. Nasty looking stuff by Easter, but what a taste! Today, we use the Polish sausage water/vinegar/horseradish mixture as our broth. We always called the Easter Soup borscht too, even though we called our beet soup-borscht.
CornishmaidenThreads: -
Posts: 1
Joined: Mar 22, 08
 Mar 25, 08, 15:45    #40
Hi I am not surprised so many Polish people do not know the Barsc soup you are talking about some do not realise what they have, I have noticed that in some of the Europeon shops here in the uk they sell it in a packet like the english Knorr soup. you should also try Bigos "Hunters Stew" its great
Guest  Jan 11, 09, 09:53    #41
Since Christmas has just passed by I'm trying to see if anyone else out there knows about barszcz. I stumbled on this site through a google search. We have barszcz every Christmas. It is a tradition in our house. My mom and aunt were both born in Poland and this year my aunt passed on to me the full recipe of how to make barszcz including how to get the starter going. Each year she borrows starter fermented barszcz from a friend to make the Christmas soup. It is SO delicious. My son who is 21 used to hate it when he was younger but now he actually asks for it. We put additional farmers cheese, mushrooms and croutons into the soup when it is serverd. I want to keep this tradition alive (along with a number of others that we follow at the holidays)
Guest  Jan 20, 09, 13:34    #42
I think you'er talking about Bialy Barszcz which in English is white borscht.
Guest  Mar 29, 09, 22:41    #43
my family starts a week before easter with 2 1/2 cups of water and 2 cups of old fashioned oatmeal left to forment for a week then strain the juice and dilute with water add hard boiled eggs ham kielbasa and hamand horseradish
Guest  May 28, 09, 18:59    #44
Can anyone give me the recipe for red beet borscht. My Polish grandmother makes it with pork chops and grated beets.
buster13  Aug 23, 09, 02:12    #45
Okay, I bought Zurek ( rye starter) and now need a recipe for sour soup ( we had this in Poland served in a bread bowl) want to make it at home but finding a good recipe has been difficult....
Otis Tarda  Aug 27, 09, 18:12    #46
Ok, seems as there is some confusion here about "barszcz", so maybe I coud try to explain. But, beware: there is LOT OF regional names and variations, so, you could still be suprised.

So, let's start with some classification:

There is:
a) red barszcz - where main ingredient is beet

b) white barszcz - also called "żurek" (pron. "zhoorhek"), "żur" ("zhoor"), or "zalewajka" ("za-leh-vay-ka"). The differ a little, but main ingredient is "rye starter" - fermented, sour miixture of water and thick rye flour.

Unfortunately, this "rye starter" is also named "żur", "żurek", or even "barszcz"; so, to avoid confusion I'd call it just - "rye starter". Remember: it's generaly inedible (although not poisonous, or something), and it plain fermented flour. It's usually sold in jars, bottles, or bags. And looks more or less so:

mojegotowanie.pl/var/self/storage/images/przepisy/zupy/zurek3/488573-1 -pol-PL/zurek_popup_watermark.jpg


So, lets start with "white barszcz". There are two main kinds: one is made on meat broth, another is made without. Both can be made with, or without potatoes, although "no meat, no potatoes version is very rare".

Lets start with meat version:
make a stock, using either ribs, bacon, or white or red kiełbasa (you can even mix it all!), bacon could be chopped and fried with chopped onion. Add allspice, bay leaves, peper (not necessary, it's widely using in Polish kitchen just for extra flavor), let it boil for an hour or so. You could, if you wish, add some vegetables - one small carrot, one small parsley root, or 1/4 of small celery. You can also add marjoram.

And then it's time for first big decision: add, or add not potatoes - as the taste could be a little different. If you wish to add directly to the soup, cut it in 1-2 cm cubes and boil till it will be soft. Then pour "rye starter" - cautiously, let it boil for while, check the taste and if necessary, add more. Leit it boil for few minutes - and its ready!

You could also add some cream (it's safer to do on a plate, however). It's served on a plate, with boiled eggs (cut in half, or four) and swimming kiełbasa.

Alternatively, you can use no potatoes, and make clear soup, that could be eaten with potatoes boiled separately, egg and kiełbasa, or even drunk in glasses, as addition to mashed potatoes on a plate.

b) "zalewajka" is made in similiar way, but stock is made without meat (although you can use some stock cube) and with cut potatoes. Kiełbasa could be added, however.

And remember, there is no "canon" version of this soup. Bacon could be cut, and fried with onion, so it "swim" on surface, adding some flavor - or could be just boiled in one piece. The same is with sausage - could be cut in little pieces, or served in whole piece. You coud add marjoram, or not, the same is with vegetables. Just try and improvise.
punky  Feb 8, 10, 22:39    #47
I believe my Grandfather used to make this but, he used pickle juice. Would this be the same thing? All I know is that I loved it and miss not getting it any more.
polkamaniacThreads: 1
Posts: 514
Joined: Aug 2, 09
 Pictures: 1
 Feb 9, 10, 04:07    #48
Here is a recepie for Polish Barszcz that you may enjoy



freddiecrocker2  Mar 16, 10, 23:17    #49
Hi from Rome NY. My mother-in-law made a white easter soup here in central NY. She boiled the leftover ham bone and some kielbasa in water, removed the meat and cut it into small pieces and then added cream to liquid . Then she sliced hardcooked eggs and also added a little horseradish. YUM!!

Grandma in Rome
ChefAimster  Mar 18, 10, 18:22    #50
freddiecrocker2:
She boiled the leftover ham bone and some kielbasa in water, removed the meat and cut it into small pieces and then added cream to liquid . Then she sliced hardcooked eggs and also added a little horseradish.

I grew up in Northern NY and my mother made our soup similar - instead of adding cream, she used hardboild egg yolk to thicken the soup and also added vinegar.
Rozzie8937  Mar 27, 10, 18:56    #51
Keep it simple....slow cook your kielbasa but continue to add water so you have enough broth for your barszch.......then add just a little butter milk, cup of flower and add vinegar and salt, pepper....the cut up your hard boiled eggs and your kielbasa and there's your Easter morning breakfast barszcz with either babbka (polish raisen bread) or polish rye with seeds... Yummy....Happy Easter.
plk123Threads: 30
Posts: 6,412
Joined: Aug 29, 07
 Pictures: 2
 Mar 28, 10, 03:15    #52
that is some strange white borscht.
pnorton  Apr 3, 10, 18:50    #53
My family has made this for years. We call it Shvinsunka - but I'm sure that's not how it's really spelled...
wcmanijak  Nov 15, 10, 01:56    #54
Krysia: I have your receipe from your I hope your mother or father for "Biarly Barszcz".
I am exciteded! We are Polish and donot know how to make Barszcz. I have lost a dauthter
age 32 cancer who loved barszcz. Our lost was 2003. Age 32. Her Fiancee who is Italian
loved barszcz made by her grandmother, year after year. Her grandmother age 93 outlived her granddaughter by 4 years. we have conctant contact with our dughter Laura's finaccee
Michael who loves her grandmothers barszcz, but I donot know how to make it. Your receipe
was the best close to my mother-in laws. I would like to please my daughter's fiancee Mike as well asa myself and my wife to give to them for Christmas 2010 this gift and the memories of Baci's Barszcz, who died on 02.14.2008. (Albina)
Your receipe ends salt to taste. Is that the end? What to make this, what to make it like
Baci"s. Thank you, please replay.
W. Manijak
PennBoyThreads: 157
Posts: 3,443
Joined: Dec 7, 08
 Pictures: 2
 Nov 15, 10, 15:56    #55
White Barszcz, but made traditionally, country style, can't do it from some packets bought at a store, dump a whole loaf of bread into a jar a let is stand for a week or so, dump that into a pot add water kielbasa, onion, eggs, that's real Barszcz.
debbieThreads: -
Posts: 1
Joined: Dec 25, 10
 Dec 25, 10, 18:01    #56
Busia Kaminski (76 years old) was over for Christmas & my brother & I wanted the recipe for KWAS - We could not find a written recipe for mom's holiday tradition. So we immediately got out our cooking pot, filled it with water and added our ham bone. As mom added the ingredients we followed behind with our measuring cups and measuring spoons and came up with the following recipe to pass down to future generations -



ham bone (and any ham juice left from your baked ham)
in approx 16 cups of water
add 2 or 3 bay leaves
add 1 tsp peppercorns
carrots

Bring the above ingredients to a boil
add 2 cups of vinegar and 1 tsp salt - cook on medium heat for an hour

in a separate container - mix 1 egg yolk, 2 cups of milk / then add 2/3rd cup of flour
whisk together.
To this mixture add 2 to 4 cups of the hot broth - whisk together and then slowly add to the
pot
bring pot of soup to another boil and add salt and vinegar to taste

I found that the next best thing to homemade noodles are kluski noodles.


Boil all until meat is nice and tender. Remove meat and strain soup into another container. Cut meat away from bone and put back into soup. Add cooked noodles and serve.

KWAS
Definition: Polish for a sour starter made by fermenting bread and/or beets or other vegetables or fruits. It is used in soup making, especially barszcz or rye bread.
Pronunciation: KHVASS
Polonius3Threads: 1,005
Posts: 4,835
Joined: Apr 11, 08
 Dec 25, 10, 23:43    #57
Here is a recipe for White Easter Barszcz:
http://easteuropeanfood.about.com/od/polishsoups/r/whitebarszcz.htm
And here is a picture:
http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-57793018/stock-photo-barszcz-polish-ea ster-soup.html
ram1020  Apr 1, 11, 17:25    #58
We had something called Shvinsunka for breakfast on Easter, but is was this mixture of Polish Sausage, hard boiled eggs, and horseradish that was blessed on Saturday.
BOBKAL  Apr 6, 11, 01:09    #59
YES, YOUR MOTHER PROBABLY CALLS IT THE SAME NAME AS 'BEET SOUP'. IT IS CALLED BORSCH BECAUSE SOMETIMES BEET SOUP USES SOUR CREAM. THE NAME IS BORSCH (pronounced 'borsch'). THE RYE BREAD & THE SOUR CREAM GIVE THE SOUP A SLIGHT'SOUR' TASTE, WHICH MAKES IT UNIQUE. I WAS ALWAYS TAUGHT THAT INSTEAD OF CORN STARCH, YOU MAKE A MIXTURE OF WATER, SOUR CREAM & FLOUR TO THICKEN AS IF YOU WERE TO MAKE A GRAVY. YOU STIR THE MIXTURE TILL YOU HAVE THE DESIRED CONSISTENCY. BE CAREFUL NOT TOTHICKEN IT TOO MUCH OR YOU WILL HAVE A MUD CONSISTENCY. YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WHEN YOU YOU USE 'FLOUR' TO THICKEN.. YOU JUST WANT IT TO HAVE A 'WHITE' COLOR TO THE SOUP & THAT'S ALL! LPT'S OF LUCK!!!
asikThreads: 2
Posts: 547
Joined: Feb 17, 09
Edited by: asik  Apr 6, 11, 02:28    #60
ram1020:
Shvinsunka for breakfast on Easter

Correct spelling is Święconka and more info here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%9Awi%C4%99conka

BOBKAL:
YES, YOUR MOTHER PROBABLY CALLS IT THE SAME NAME AS 'BEET SOUP'


Beet soup in Polish is called "Zupa buraczkowa" and is similar to barszcz czerwony but it becomes barszcz when you remove from the soup all the vegetables&meat and use the clear "soup" only adding pierogi or uszka

There are different Polish soups from beetroots:

-Zupa buraczkowa (beetroot soup) and when cleared of vegie and meat it's called- barszcz czerwony (red barszcz);

- botwinka soup from fresh&young beetroots, incl.leafs

- Barszcz ukrainski (Ukrainian barszcz) really nice Polish soup from different sorts of vegie incl. beets and pea or lima beans;


In general, we have two main and different barszcz :

-czerwony barszcz (red barszcz) popular Christmas dish;
-biały barszcz (white barszcz) popular Easter dish.

http://oliwka.przepisy.net/barszcz-czerwony/
http://ugotuj.to/przepisy_kulinarne/2,87561,,Barszcz_bialy_wielkanocny ,,39175006,9495.html


page 2 of 3:  « Prev  1  2  3  Next »

Home / Food, Drink / Unanswered [this forum] | Similar


Similar discussions:

Poland known for their sweets?  Where can i find Spirytus Rektyfikowany


Random: Caregiver Nanny Needed for my Kids United Kingdom

Only registered and logged-in users may post here. Please log in or register.


58 [Guests - 44 / Members - 14] users on live forums now


Home | Unanswered | Archives | Random | Statistics Time in Poland: 23:54 / May 26

About Us | Contact Us | Rules, Privacy | Poland Advertising

© 2005-12 PolishForums.com