OKOCIM PORTER BETTER THAN GUINNESS STOUT?

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Jan 25, 10, 20:11 #31

I don't know why people are so surprised about people comparing Porter to Stout. In Ireland Guiness is still often referred to as "Porter". Actually, Porter is sweeter than Stout but are close relations.

The name Porter allegedly comes from the black beer drunk by the porters of Covent garden Market in London. During the 18/19th Century there was a fair amount of trade in Stout and Porter from Britain to the Baltic regions. The English company Courage (used to?) produce(d) a "Russian Imperial Stout" which was stronger than ordinary Stout. traditionally, Baltic Porters exported from Britain/Ireland were allowed to ferment and mature during the voyage and were therefore a lot stronger at the other end.

As to the original poster... Yes, I'm a Porter fan.

convexThreads: 46 Posts: 7,185 Joined: Nov 25, 09 ♂	Jan 25, 10, 20:20 #32
Trevek: As to the original poster... Yes, I'm a Porter fan. good man. I'm brewing a double chocolate stout next week. have a very nice recipe...

CzyrycaThreads: 2 Posts: 149 Joined: Jan 25, 10 ♂	Jan 25, 10, 21:26 #33
The Irish will most certainly say no, but they are two different styles of Porter in my mind, both very delicious. Okocim has more alcohol, while Guinness is smoother. So it depends on what you are looking for. I like Murphy's Irish Stout the best!

EchoTheCatThreads: 2 Posts: 183 Joined: Jan 20, 10 ♀	Jan 25, 10, 21:38 #34
Did any of you try Fortuna, Koźlak or Czarnków ?

TrevekThreads: 33 Posts: 2,155 Joined: May 21, 08 ♂	Edited by: Trevek Jan 25, 10, 21:41 #35
convex: I'm brewing a double chocolate stout next week. have a very nice recipe... Oooh! You'll understand why it's called 'stout'. I'm rather port(er)ly myself after having lived in belfast. Czyryca: Okocim has more alcohol, while Guinness is smoother. But bottled Guiness is very different from the draught. more like the porter. Does anyone cook with porter?

mrbojangles540	Feb 11, 10, 02:15 #36
I'm drinking this Porter's right now. It's too damn sweet and malty; I would've sworn I was drinking a slightly hoppy Coca-Cola if I didn't open the bottle and pour it myself.

boss addictThreads: - Posts: 1 Joined: Feb 11, 10 ♂	Feb 11, 10, 02:53 #37
I just discovered Black Boss Porter and am totally hooked. Zywiec and Okocim porters are also good but Black Boss is in a class all its own.

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Edited by: polkamaniac Feb 11, 10, 03:14 #38

Yeah--at 8.5% alcohol Black Boss better be good.!!!It's a Bottom-fermented Porter.
Very dark brown with a dense, mid-tan head; dates, liquorice, clove. toffee, chocolate and roast aroma; very sweet taste with cream. liquorice, dates and chocolate aromas; bitter finish with burnt, liquorice, black chocolate and coffee aromas.
Bags of dark malt and fruit, a fair bit of sweetness, finished off with enough burnt bitterness to justify the Porter monnicker. Very nice indeed. And for you style fascists - this is definitely a Porter and not some type of Doppelbock, as some of you may claim. (I'm playing the "emotional recognition" card .) If given this blind and asked if it was a strong Porter I would say yes. That's as much of a style definition as I need. What's it based on? Nothing but my own personal drinking experiences.

BLSThreads: 79 Posts: 171 Joined: Feb 14, 08 ♂	Dec 23, 11, 22:24 #39
I experienced my first Okocim Porter tonight - I can absolutely state that I prefer Guinness. I have never been a fan of mocne beers in Poland - I don't like tasting the alcohol in beers. It seems all I can taste is the alcohol in Okocim Porter. It was my first and last...

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