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Origin of the pierogi


9rometheus
4 Dec 2011 #31
"No matter where they came from,pierogy are one of my most favourite foods.

Technically, all of the mentioned countries (exept Japan) have been in the mongolian empire at one time or another... I believe they are mongolian
Seanus 15 | 19,674
5 Dec 2011 #32
Many Poles say pierogies in my English classes as they see it as a hybrid word. They are good when dropped into boiling water too :) :)

Gyouza are fantastic. I loved them in Asia.
strzyga 2 | 993
5 Dec 2011 #33
so they turn out like a frisbe? get out of the kitchen and leave the cooking to the experts. ;)

Oh but they can be baked. It's a different kind of dough though, made with yeast.
Patrycja19 62 | 2,688
5 Dec 2011 #34
its not the same then, its a roll rather then a Pierogi

I was under the impression that they actually meant the dumpling like pierogi..
mafketis 37 | 10,882
5 Dec 2011 #35
"pierogies", for fck's sake.
Typical Polish-American destruction of our wonderful language.

It's no worse than Beatlesie or hippisi.....

What else could the plural be?
strzyga 2 | 993
5 Dec 2011 #36
its not the same then, its a roll rather then a Pierogi I was under the impression that they actually meant the dumpling like pierogi..

Not quite. I've known just the yeast version, but google shows that no-yeast, flat dough is possible too.
See for yourself:

video-kuchnia.pl/video/B1DAND1X934R/Pierogi-pieczone
najsmaczniejsze.pl/tag/pierogi-ruskie-pieczone/
Patrycja19 62 | 2,688
6 Dec 2011 #37
flat dough is possible too.
See for yourself:

she used potato for the dough which would give it more moisture, I was saying the other type of dough
would become hard or chewy.. making it with the potato looked really good..

it also still looked more like a bread type. but looked really good. :)
Jimmu 2 | 156
7 Dec 2011 #38
Typical Polish-American destruction of our wonderful language.

You might notice that he was speaking English, not your wonderful language.

Gyouza are fantastic.

STOP IT! Unless you can tell me where to buy some west of Wrocław! :->
strzyga 2 | 993
7 Dec 2011 #39
she used potato for the dough which would give it more moisture, I was saying the other type of dough would become hard or chewy.. making it with the potato looked really good..

The second link is no-potato, regular type of dough. I must try it one day and see if it comes out hard or not.
Sidliste_Chodov 1 | 441
7 Dec 2011 #40
What else could the plural be?

Er... pierogi? :D

Mind you, English people don't use pizze when they order two ;)
croggers 7 | 109
7 Dec 2011 #41
Oh but they can be baked. It's a different kind of dough though, made with yeast.

The baked pierogi (with yeast ) is basically like a British Pasty. Oh how I miss pasty shops........... beats a zapiekanka any day ;)





Sidliste_Chodov 1 | 441
7 Dec 2011 #42
The baked pierogi (with yeast ) is basically like a British Pasty.

We don't tend to bake our pierogi when first cooked (always boiled from raw) but they are nice to reheat in the oven. That's how I often do mine (pierogi don't reheat that well in a microwave, imo) - that's how my mum often reheats them, and so do I.
justcommenting.
5 Jan 2013 #43
Pierogi is a Polish word, therefore pierogies made in Poland or by the Poles would naturally originate from Poland. All other types of dumplings made by other countries would therefore originate there. No brainer!
croggers 7 | 109
9 Jan 2013 #44
I've had baked pierogi many times in Poland in traditional restaurants, just with a different dough which is more similar to pizza dough. You can not bake pierogi which have a dough for boiling.
Lenka 5 | 3,471
9 Jan 2013 #45
But you can fry them.Yammy.
jon357 74 | 22,054
9 Jan 2013 #46
You can not bake pierogi which have a dough for boiling.

They still work if you bake them - the dough will still expand - just don't expect them to be light and fluffy.

Frying works well too.
MisiuBeare
1 Oct 2013 #47
Man alive - don't you folks know ANYTHING of history at all . . . . . .

EVERYBODY in my family knows that pierogi were invetned by my pra-babcia ;)
slwlion
14 Mar 2014 #48
My wife is from the Ukraine and she routinely fries Pierogies ion butter and onions.
teflpuss
14 Mar 2014 #49
Do you have life insurance? Get her to add fried diced bacon for pierogi to die for.
jon357 74 | 22,054
14 Mar 2014 #50
My local bar (about as traditional as it gets) is now doing them with feta and spinach! They still use the fried lumps of fat though.
Ogorki - | 114
16 Mar 2014 #51
We will never know. End of.

...Poland eats piclked Herring and Sweden has Wodka due to the Swedish invasion of Poland about 500 years ago...
theicemanfw190
29 Jan 2017 #52
Both my Grandmother's where from Poland and came here due to Germany in the Second World War (which now have been gone for sometime) My mothers mother made the BEST Pierogi's the ONLY way you should...with Kapusta inside ans then butter both sides and fry it until golden brown...Extremely Delicious!!!!
Thomasgilbert
28 Feb 2017 #53
I have a linguistics piece that may be able to provide a possible origin of pieroghies. Email me and I will share with you the lengthy piece. Blessings, Tom Gilbert thomasgilbert2052@yahoo
Lyzko 45 | 9,417
1 Mar 2017 #54
Just was in a supposed "Polish" bakery not far from where we live and saw "pirozhki" instead of the proper spelling:-) The owner is a Pole, yet he didn't seem either to notice or care. If he's that careless about his signage, how circumspect could he possibly be about his baking?LOL

Imagine an American eatery in Poland, featuring "hat duggi"!
Chemikiem
1 Mar 2017 #55
saw "pirozhki" instead of the proper spelling

Pirozhki aren't Pierogi.

" Pirozhki (Russian: пирожки, plural form of pirozhok, literally a "small pie"), also transliterated as piroshki (singular piroshok) or pyrizhky (Ukrainian: пиріжки), is a generic word for individual-sized baked or fried buns stuffed with a variety of fillings. "

" Pirozhki are not to be confused with the pierogi of Poland and Eastern Europe "

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirozhki

a supposed "Polish" bakery

Pierogi are sold in bakeries in the US? I know they have sweet as well as savoury fillings, but I've never seen them in a bakery in Poland. They are usually boiled and sometimes fried, but I didn't know they were baked.
Lyzko 45 | 9,417
1 Mar 2017 #56
Ya see that, Chem:-) The bloke didn't even know what he was selling (then again, maybe he did and was just being a wise acreLOL), 'cuz when I even asked him (in Polish) whether or not there was a difference between "pierogi" and "pirozhki", he merely shook his head and replied "Tak samo!"

Thanks, I finally learned something.
jon357 74 | 22,054
2 Mar 2017 #57
They are usually boiled and sometimes fried, but I didn't know they were baked.

I've had baked ones, however the recipe came I think, from Russia, as did the cook.
Łyszkiewicz
2 Mar 2017 #58
I've heard some rumours of the pierogi's being made in Poland before WWII. Then when the war was over every country in Europe got new borders, and so Ukraine got some from Poland and I some websites and people say that it was made in the part of Poland that Ukraine took. Making Ukraine get a lot of credit, because pierogi's weren't big around the world at the time.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,163
2 Mar 2017 #59
I've heard some rumours of the pierogi's being made in Poland before WWII.

They've been made in this part of the world for much longer than that. Ukrainians know them as varenyky, and it's been part of the cuisine for centuries. The origins are completely unclear, however.
jon357 74 | 22,054
2 Mar 2017 #60
They and similar items are made in one form or another across a huge part of Eastern Europe, Central and Eastern Asia and the Middle East and have been for a very long time. The origins are probably in the east, either Tatars or Chinese.


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