Do Polish beers contain adjuncts?

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Jul 14, 10, 19:27 #1

Nearly all American brews, including that fizzy, watery swill Bud Light, are adjunct beers, meaning they contain cheap stretchers such as wheat, rice and other unmalted grain. What about Polish beers? Do they contain anything other than the classic water, yeast, malted barrley and hops? I am referring of course to yoru basic largers, not speciality brews containing fruit syrups and suchlike flavourings.

convexThreads: 46 Posts: 7,185 Joined: Nov 25, 09 ♂	Jul 14, 10, 20:09 #2
Most Polish beers are pale lagers... fizzy watery swill.... This bottle of Lech doesn't have anything that violates the reinheitsgebot...

Polonius3Threads: 1,005 Posts: 4,833 Joined: Apr 11, 08 ♂	Jul 15, 10, 11:37 #3
Bud Light weighs in at 4.2 ABV as opposed to Lech's 5.6 or 5.7. Also Lech and most Polish regular-strength lagers contain more flavour extract (all that is not water and alcohol) -- around 12% -- than insipid American lite beers.

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Jul 15, 10, 11:45 #4

Pale lagers in general are boring beers. Not a big fan of the style.

Light beers are heresy anyway. The beers consumed by 99% of the population here are sad pale lagers (Tyskie, Lech, Warka). Big mass produced beers that aren't all that creative.

People like sh*tty light beer, around the world. That's why Zywiec Porter doesn't sell well here (even though it's an amazing Porter). Breweries know their audiences, and their audiences like pale lagers.

The quality of the beer in the US is way higher due to all the microbreweries. There is zero excuse to drink bad beer in the US. It's a bit more difficult to get decent beer here. Homebrewing is picking up though, which is great. Hopefully that will spawn more microbreweries.

OlafThreads: 8 Posts: 1,369 Joined: Oct 29, 09 ♂	Jul 15, 10, 11:55 #5
Polonius3: Most Polish beers are pale lagers... fizzy watery swill.... if you're not a fan of them, that's ok. But that is not true they are swill - they have more good ingredients than most other beers, more extract and are stronger.

jonniThreads: 26 Posts: 4,181 Joined: Nov 27, 07 ♂	Jul 15, 10, 12:03 #6
convex: Most Polish beers are pale lagers... fizzy watery swill.... Yes, though I would add that most of them are fizzy characterless chemical swill.

convexThreads: 46 Posts: 7,185 Joined: Nov 25, 09 ♂	Jul 15, 10, 15:02 #7
Olaf: they have more good ingredients than most other beers, more extract and are stronger. what makes you think that? When you say more extract, what do you mean exactly? They are light on maltiness, and definitely not hoppy. balanced out to give you complete boredom. Good beer for when quantity counts. The porters here on the other hand....

HarryThreads: 62 Posts: 8,508 Joined: May 2, 07 ♂ [Suspended]	Jul 15, 10, 15:20 #8
convex: It's a bit more difficult to get decent beer here. Rubbish, even my local Carrefour express stocks five different types of unpasteurised beer that knocks the socks off American beer!

SzwedwPolsceThreads: 13 Posts: 1,915 Joined: Feb 21, 09 ♂	Edited by: SzwedwPolsce Jul 15, 10, 15:20 #9
Real beer have only 4 ingredients: 1. Water 2. Malt 3. Hops 4. Yeast All other features takes place naturally (and automatically) during fermentation. Fake beers containing glucose syrup and other crap should be banned.

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Edited by: convex Jul 15, 10, 15:33 #10

Harry:

Rubbish, even my local Carrefour express stocks five different types of unpasteurised beer that knocks the socks off American beer!

Not buying it. Try an ACME or a Boulevard IPA, available nearly everywhere now. Flying dog is all over the place as well, most everything in their lineup is amazing, none of them pasteurized. So many great microbrews in the US.

The domestic lagers suck here, and most places don't stock too many porters or bocks. So you're stuck drinking crap. Kopernik is a semi decent drink, but it's hard to find. Same goes for Hevelius Kaper, which I'll try to hunt down tonight...

SzwedwPolsce:

Real beer have only 4 ingredients:

Well, I'll have what the Belgians are having. You enjoy your boring lagers.

VarsovianThreads: 91 Posts: 568 Joined: Nov 23, 06 ♂	Jul 15, 10, 15:46 #11
Belgians have the only real beer! Shame I've moved on to good ol' red wine

HarryThreads: 62 Posts: 8,508 Joined: May 2, 07 ♂ [Suspended]	Jul 15, 10, 15:48 #12
convex: Same goes for Hevelius Kaper, which I'll try to hunt down tonight... Sorry but if you think that Heveliusz Kaper or Zywiec Porter can even hold a candle to things like Ciechan Porter or Grand Imperial Porter, there's no point trying to have any discussion with you.

convexThreads: 46 Posts: 7,185 Joined: Nov 25, 09 ♂	Jul 15, 10, 16:00 #13
Ciechan isn't that great, it smells like a hospital glove and is too sweet for my taste. Grand Imperial is much, much, much better, my second favorite supermarket porter. Heveliusz Kaper is the best lager that I've managed to find in Poland. Zywiec Porter is damn near perfect, especially considering where it comes from.

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Edited by: Olaf Jul 16, 10, 10:46 #14

jonni:

When you say more extract, what do you mean exactly?

- eehh? that they have MORE extract? I don't know how else to put this.

convex:

Ciechan isn't that great, it smells like a hospital glove and is too sweet for my taste.

Ok, so you like porter. But light beers are different class, right? And out of this category Polish ones and Czech are the best. If Ciechan or Łomża or Perła chmielowa don't taste you - don't drink it, but consider going to a doctor to check your sense of taste;)

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Edited by: convex Jul 16, 10, 11:47 #15

Olaf:

Ok, so you like porter. But light beers are different class, right? And out of this category Polish ones and Czech are the best. If Ciechan or Łomża or Perła chmielowa don't taste you - don't drink it, but consider going to a doctor to check your sense of taste;)

Yes, but I can appreciate a good pils. Brackie is good :) Perla is disgusing. Try to drink it at anything but freezing cold. Lomza smells like ****. Ciechan isn't horrible, it's boring considering it's unpasteurized...but why drink mediocre beer?

The unfiltered pilsner urquell that they give you at the end of the brewery tour is amazing. Also a good pils in Kutna Hora and Liberec, the names escape me right now.

There are a lot more local breweries in CZ. The local brewery seems to have died off here.

Olaf:

- eehh? that they have MORE extract? I don't know how else to put this.

Sure, explain it. More grains during mashing or more hops during the boil? Longer boil (not hoppy enough, that can't be it...)? I have no clue what you're talking about.

Also, the breweries brew from grains, not extract.

CheFinnyThreads: 9 Posts: 57 Joined: Feb 6, 10 ♂	Jul 16, 10, 13:18 #16
they get you drunk. job done, end of thread.

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Jul 16, 10, 13:20 #17

convex:

Yes, but I can appreciate a good pils. Brackie is good :) Perla is disgusing. Try to drink it at anything but freezing cold. Lomza smells like ****. Ciechan isn't horrible, it's boring considering it's unpasteurized...but why drink mediocre beer?

- Seriously, man, visit a GP. There must be sthg wrong with your senses of smell and taste;)

convex:

Kutna Hora

- Czerna Hora?

convex:

The local brewery seems to have died off here.

- there are some still, but it is true they are endangered species...

convex:

Sure, explain it.

- I am looking on some bottles and compare what they've written there, e.g. 14% extract, 12% etc... And what is strong in Czech Rep. is weak in Poland.

Polonius3Threads: 1,005 Posts: 4,833 Joined: Apr 11, 08 ♂	Jul 16, 10, 13:29 #18
There is (or used to be) a small brewery in the Warsaw suburb of Konstancin. Anybody every sample their brews? If so, what's the verdict?

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Jul 16, 10, 14:07 #19

Olaf:

Seriously, man, visit a GP.

I just feel sorry for you. I feel that not all hope is lost. It will take some training, but you CAN BE FIXED.

Olaf:

Czerna Hora?

It's Kutna Hora, the one with the bone church. Beer is called "Lorec".

Olaf:

there are some still, but it is true they are endangered species...

Do you know if there is a list of smaller breweries anywhere?

Olaf:

I am looking on some bottles and compare what they've written there, e.g. 14% extract, 12% etc... And what is strong in Czech Rep. is weak in Poland.

Got you now. That's a measurement of degrees plato, derived from the OG. Basically tells you how much sugar is in the wort. It's more or less proportional to the end alcohol content.

Most Czech pilsners are between 10-13*...from what I can remember...

A JThreads: 19 Posts: 4,639 Joined: May 21, 10 ♂	Jul 16, 10, 14:18 #20
Varsovian: Belgians have the only real beer! Strongest Beer In The World! This is beer which contains 45% alcohol, the brew is called Obilix, and it was brewed in Almere, Holland. ;P Beat that, Belgians!

Lyzko	Jul 16, 10, 14:29 #21
As to our thread's title, "additives" and "adjuncts" are both VERY DIFFERENT things))))

convexThreads: 46 Posts: 7,185 Joined: Nov 25, 09 ♂	Jul 16, 10, 14:39 #22
A J: Beat that, Belgians! They manage to make beers that actually taste good. Lyzko: As to our thread's title, "additives" and "adjuncts" are both VERY DIFFERENT things)))) Adjuncts are additives to beer nazis.

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Jul 16, 10, 14:48 #23

convex:

Perla is disgusing. Try to drink it at anything but freezing cold. Lomza smells like ****. Ciechan isn't horrible, it's boring considering it's unpasteurized...but why drink mediocre beer?
The unfiltered pilsner urquell that they give you at the end of the brewery tour is amazing. Also a good pils in Kutna Hora and Liberec, the names escape me right now.

There is very clearly something wrong with your tastebuds. Perhaps you'd better able to taste beer if you removed your head from your anus.

convex:

The local brewery seems to have died off here.

On that, as with so many other things, you are 100% wrong. Here are just some of the breweries that prove you know as little about Polish breweries as you do about how beer should taste:
* Browar Amber
* BrowArmia
* CK Browar
* Browar Ciechan
* Browar Cornelius
* Browar Czarnków
* Browar Fortuna
* Browar GAB
* Browar Gościszewo
* Browar Grybów
* Browar Jabłonowo
* Browar Jagiełło
* Browar Konstancin
* Browar Kormoran
* Krajan Browary Kujawsko-Pomorskie
* Browar Lwówek 1209
* O!Nanobrowar Domowy PiwU
* Perła - Browary Lubelskie
* Browar Staropolski
* Browary Restauracje Spiż
* Browar Witnica
* Browar Zamkowy w Radomiu
* Browar Zodiak

Polonius3:

There is (or used to be) a small brewery in the Warsaw suburb of Konstancin. Anybody every sample their brews? If so, what's the verdict?

Good old Browar Konstancin! Their Dawne and Mazowieckie unpasteurised offering are well worth trying.

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Jul 16, 10, 15:01 #24

Harry:

Perhaps you'd better able to taste beer if you removed your head from your anus.

LOL!
I think we have exploited the topic with the following resolutions:
1. Polish beers are healthy and potent, no adjuncts.
2. Convex doesn't like those beers, only porters I guess. Which is fine.
3. Convex has to go check his senses or remove his head from... [hey, I didn't say it!] ;)

Don't take it as offence Convex, it's your opinion, others rather disagree as I do.

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Edited by: convex Jul 16, 10, 15:16 #25

Harry:

There is very clearly something wrong with your tastebuds. Perhaps you'd better able to taste beer if you removed your head from your anus.

Hilarious. You actually might like it in there, some light notes of Lomza.

Harry:

On that, as with so many other things, you are 100% wrong. Here are just some of the breweries that prove you know as little about Polish breweries as you do about how beer should taste:

Cheers you wonderful human being.

Number of breweries
1845 1846 1876 1891 1900 1914 1938 1939 1987
1100# 632# 397# 248# 500* 312* 144 138 78

Anyway, the number of local Polish brewers compared to neighboring countries is pretty low.

Let me know if you want some Perla effect. I'll make you a good deal.

Olaf:

Convex doesn't like those beers, only porters I guess. Which is fine.

I like a good pale lager. A GOOD pale lager.

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Jul 17, 10, 17:07 #26

convex:

People like sh*tty light beer, around the world. That's why Zywiec Porter doesn't sell well here (even though it's an amazing Porter). Breweries know their audiences, and their audiences like pale lagers.

Wow, actually someone likes Żywiec Porter? While I like porters, Okocim is the only good Polish dark beer I know of (Strzelec is just bearable), it showed in Polish shops again recently, but I find Żywiec Porter godawful. It tastes like soup. Better then Lech porter used to be though.

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Edited by: joepilsudski Jul 17, 10, 19:06 #27

Polonius3:

Nearly all American brews, including that fizzy, watery swill Bud Light, are adjunct beers, meaning they contain cheap stretchers such as wheat, rice and other unmalted grain. What about Polish beers? Do they contain anything other than the classic water, yeast, malted barrley and hops? I am referring of course to yoru basic largers, not speciality brews containing fruit syrups and suchlike flavourings.

You quite right about most American beer...Of course, you have the micro-brews, but they are very expensive, and, myself, I do not care for 'blueberry' beer.

'Lite' beer created to be marketed to women and feminized men.

A very good Philadelphia brew that is also widely available on the East Coast is Yuengling Lager, Porter, and Black & Tan...Yuengling is oldest continuously operating brewery in the USA, located in Pottsville PA...Lager is an amber beer, extremely flavorful, and will kick your ass (drink 2-3)...It is good even warm!...Plus, about $5-6 cheaper a case than Budweiser.

Porter is, of course, porter, and Black & Tan is a bit lighter than the porter, but still dark...Their straight pale lager, or beer, is OK also.

Polish imported beer almost impossible to get on East Coast.

George8600Threads: 20 Posts: 1,114 Joined: Feb 19, 09 ♂	Jul 17, 10, 19:12 #28
Solution: Drink Belgian Beer! ^_^

joepilsudskiThreads: 44 Posts: 2,529 Joined: Apr 27, 07 ♂	Jul 17, 10, 19:16 #29
George8600: Solution: Drink Belgian Beer! ^_^ Belgian beer kick ass, but very expensive here, like $10 for big bottle in USA.

Lyzko	Jul 17, 10, 19:22 #30
A number of adjuncts at our college drink a lot of beer, I will admit-:)) Trust what was meant in the title was "additives" LOL

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