Russia vs Poland Vodka war

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Edited by: David_18 Jun 16, 10, 11:57 #1

Vice Scandinavia correspondent Ivar Berglin travels to the front lines of the Vodka/Wodka Wars – and discovers that the tortured history of Russian-Polish relations can be saved in a bottle.

You must watch it, really well made and really interesting.
http://www.vbs.tv/watch/the-vice-guide-to-travel/wodka-wars

Your thoughts?

Ps.
You can find aloot of interesting videos on Vbs.

( Didn't know where to put this thread, so if a moderate want to change the location, be my guest )

David_18Threads: 111 Posts: 1,212 Joined: Jan 4, 07 ♂	Edited by: David_18 Jun 18, 10, 21:54 #2
Common give the movie a try !!!

MareGaeaThreads: 45 Posts: 5,527 Joined: Feb 6, 08 ♂	Jun 18, 10, 21:56 #3
I just got a huge bottle of "milk-filtered" (?) Russian Wodka from my Russian neighbour in exchange for helping her with her computer. I have to say it tastes pretty good, better than Smirnoff, that's for sure. >^..^< M-G (likes that Polish Wodka with the grass in it as well, but only with apple juice)

skibumThreads: 13 Posts: 93 Joined: Jan 26, 10 ♂	Jun 18, 10, 22:03 #4
But English Vodka is the best in the world this year. Chase Vodka

SashaThreads: 2 Posts: 1,597 Joined: Apr 19, 08 ♂	Edited by: Sasha Jun 18, 10, 22:04 #5
The taxi driver barely speak Russian to say nothing about English. :) Sasha felt homesick after watching Moscow :( MareGaea: I just got a huge bottle of "milk-filtered" (?) Russian Wodka from my Russian neighbour in exchange for helping her with her computer. I guess it's Parliament. Can't of any other filtered by milk... I don't like it at all, some of my friends do though. Ona?

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Edited by: MareGaea Jun 18, 10, 22:08 #6

Sasha, what does it mean when Wodka is "milk-filtered"? You're Russian, the Wodka is Russian, so I guess you might know the answer to that?

Edit: no, it's none of these two: it says (hope I get this right) Ha MoVoke and in vertical MbPhaR (with the V in the first name upside down and the last R reversed) and on the backside of the bottle it states "filtered by milk".

>^..^<

M-G (bloody mary is good)

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Edited by: Sasha Jun 18, 10, 22:22 #7

MareGaea:

Edit: no, it's none of these two: it says (hope I get this right) Ha MoVoke and in vertical MbPhaR (with the V in the first name upside down and the last R reversed)

Gotcha!
На молоке, Мърная.

I've never drunken it. :) To tell the truth I like beer more than vodka and I don't almost drink the latter.

The milk (and eggwhite) filtration is the way how they did it in ancient Rus'. They put milk and eggwhite to vodka, they reacted with fusel-oils, congealed and gravitated to the bottom. Kind of a natural way to filter alcohol. :)

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Edited by: polkamaniac Jun 18, 10, 22:23 #8

I guess it's true---Vermont White Vodka, distilled from 100% Milk Sugar, according to the label. The website for Duncan’s Spirits, of St. Johnsbury, Vermont, says:
Inspired by traditional Tuvan milk vodka, this hand-made vodka is triple distilled from pure milk sugar and Vermont spring water. Crystal clear, smooth and with a delicate nose, this vodka is excellent straight and chilled, perfect in a white Russian.

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Jun 18, 10, 22:29 #9

That's it, Sasha :) The bottle and the label are very slightly different, but it's the same idea. Thanks for the explanation :)

I basically like Wodka only in combination with other liquids, like Cola or Tomato Juice. Don't like it that much with Orange Juice, but I don't like it pure. I drink indeed more beer and wine, although I get more drunk, hungover and sick of beer than of anything else. Don't know why that is. That's only with beer. Maybe it's because you drink larger quantities of beer.

>^..^<

M-G (thanks again)

David_18Threads: 111 Posts: 1,212 Joined: Jan 4, 07 ♂	Jun 18, 10, 23:46 #10
skibum: But English Vodka is the best in the world this year. The judges must have been korrupted!!!

Drac90Threads: 2 Posts: 120 Joined: Apr 23, 10 ♂	Jun 18, 10, 23:53 #11
wódka is meant to be drunk not to be spoke about :D

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Edited by: Sasha Jun 19, 10, 00:15 #12

The film is full of bias... :) why the hell is he taking on truth that it was mentioned first in Poland disdaining Russian sources? Why don't he mention the very origin or the word? I'll answer you... because as I believe "woda" (water) is the very same word in both Polish and Russian.
Besides the owner of brewery is lying about the corn being added to Russian vodka.

EDIT: But I like the conclusion!

David_18Threads: 111 Posts: 1,212 Joined: Jan 4, 07 ♂	Jun 19, 10, 00:37 #13
Sasha: The film is full of bias Well Poland didn't stand a chance in the communist times when they were oppressed by the russians. Now when the Polish people are free this question is comming up again.

Wiedzmin_fanThreads: 2 Posts: 133 Joined: May 31, 10 ♂	Jun 19, 10, 07:02 #14
Sasha: The taxi driver barely speak Russian to say nothing about English. :) Yeah, the driver is definitely not Russian (nor Ukrainian for that matter!). Anyway, what Polish brands of vodka (other than Zubrowka) can you guys recommend? Or Russian, it doesn't matter. Something that is available for export. Here we buy Grey Goose mostly. I want to buy something more authentic next time.

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Edited by: David_18 Jun 19, 10, 11:03 #15

Wiedzmin_fan:

Anyway, what Polish brands of vodka (other than Zubrowka) can you guys recommend? Or Russian, it doesn't matter. Something that is available for export. Here we buy Grey Goose mostly. I want to buy something more authentic next time.

Sobieski Vodka
Belvedere Vodka

From the Polmos Łańcut distillery

Biała Dama
Ck vodka
Estate vodka
Harnaś

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polmos_%C5%81a%C5%84cut

skibumThreads: 13 Posts: 93 Joined: Jan 26, 10 ♂	Jun 19, 10, 11:35 #16
David_18: The judges must have been korrupted!!! I doubt I'll ever find out how good Chase Vodka is, it's ridiculously expensive.

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Jun 20, 10, 14:15 #17

Here are some polish vodkas which most people have tried:

TorqThreads: 65 Posts: 4,024 Joined: Apr 10, 09 MEMBER ♂	Jun 20, 10, 14:26 #18
My favourites...

jedenThreads: - Posts: 297 Joined: Nov 30, 09 ♂	Jun 20, 10, 14:45 #19
Belvedere is the best Wódka in the world. There are a lot of pretty good wódkas but definitly the best are Polish and Russian. French are very soft, too soft for my taste, Bols sucks, English wódka what the hell is it?????

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Jun 20, 10, 15:32 #20

still---the giggest bang for your buck is spirytus.I dilute it %50 and I get two bottles for the price of one !!!

scottie1113Threads: 11 Posts: 873 Joined: Mar 13, 07 ♂	Jun 20, 10, 18:20 #21
Great video. Sobieski for me.

AllisonThreads: 21 Posts: 439 Joined: May 29, 10 ♀	Jun 20, 10, 20:19 #22
Do you think I could handle Vodka? This is what I call the Vodka song, I made it up about a year ago. My sister and I go around singing it sometimes, people give us funny looks haha. Vodka, Vodka, Vodka! vodka on Monday vodka on Tuesday vodka on Wednesday vodka on Thursday vodka on Friday vodka on Saturday vodka on Sunday Vodka oh yay!

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,955 Joined: May 17, 07 ♂	Jun 20, 10, 20:30 #23
Allison: Vodka, Vodka, Vodka! vodka on Monday vodka on Tuesday vodka on Wednesday vodka on Thursday vodka on Friday vodka on Saturday vodka on Sunday Vodka oh yay! Very deep song.

AllisonThreads: 21 Posts: 439 Joined: May 29, 10 ♀	Jun 20, 10, 20:33 #24
southern: Very deep song. Its very funny though, the whole idea is that people drinking vodka can't go very deep. The song is supposed to give an impression of a drunk person.

rychlikThreads: 51 Posts: 446 Joined: Aug 6, 08 ♂	Jun 20, 10, 21:35 #25
Wódka is Polish. It's been proven and most people who know anything about alcohol may/should know this. I think "vodka" was adopted as the official spelling in the west because in Poland the W is pronounced like a V so they settled on the easier, less confusing Russian spelling of Vodka.

AllisonThreads: 21 Posts: 439 Joined: May 29, 10 ♀	Jun 20, 10, 22:48 #26
This has been a very interesting thread. I think it was definitely the Polish in my opinion. Its very obvious the Russians just adopted Vodka, they didn't invent it.

polkamaniacThreads: 1 Posts: 514 Joined: Aug 2, 09 ♂	Jun 20, 10, 23:14 #27
here is an excerpt from a historian and yes the agreement is that vodka was first produced in Russia and Poland."Vodka has its origins in Russia, but it has been distilled in Poland and Finland as well since forever"There is no correct answer whether it's Poland or Russia.Some believe it was first made somewhere between the borders of Poland and Russia.

TrevekThreads: 33 Posts: 2,155 Joined: May 21, 08 ♂	Edited by: Trevek Jun 20, 10, 23:17 #28
jeden: English wódka what the hell is it????? Scotland is one of the largest vodka producers in Europe, but adds caramel, I think. Funny how they then whine about protection for 'whisky'. Of course, in any war... the british come out tops... http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2010/jun/11/vodka-english-voted -best-world

scottie1113Threads: 11 Posts: 873 Joined: Mar 13, 07 ♂	Jun 20, 10, 23:31 #29
Trevek: Of course, in any war... the british come out tops... Uh, not exactly. Two come immediately to mind: the American War of Independence, and the War of 1812. Sorry, couldn't resist. Shall we have a shot of Sobieski and let bygones be bygones? :)

convexThreads: 46 Posts: 7,185 Joined: Nov 25, 09 ♂	Jun 20, 10, 23:46 #30
polkamaniac: still---the giggest bang for your buck is spirytus.I dilute it %50 and I get two bottles for the price of one !!! I understand that quite a few drinkers have made the switch to super unleaded in an effort to save money.

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