Foreigners: Please don't buy the Polish Land!

More than that I would say, but Poles had a right to fight against their enemies. Case closed. If I see you again bringing up this topic the way you do, I will begin to think that there is something seriously wrong with you.

Hhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.....just seriously GZ.........?

Case remains open.......for as long as it takes.......it isnt something Polish people on the board are happy about discussing, or being challenged on...Irish history wasn't a bed or roses eother or to be proud of at times...........sometimes it was pretty....bloody awful....

Geezus... There's nothing wrong with Poles fighting against Russians (or other enemy). No matter how you want to spin It.

Not said that......was commenting on, how things turned out....badly....in recent decades.....for a whole host of reasons.....

its one thing to defend your country...but in the eg I gave...maybe not hte brightest of ideas to invade a far bigger nieghbour on the back of the French...then get hammered later on, due to another war....

Frank, are you sure you know what you are talking about ? Let's strat from basic stuff - Poland was partitioned in the 2nd half of 18th century by Russia, Prussia and Austria, so they were the enemies of Poland and Poles, right ? So what the hell was wrong in fighting against them ?? French made a good opportunity to defeat our enemies, so many Poles joined them. And that they didn't only fight on Polish land ? Damn, during WW2 Poles were fighting except Poland in Norway, France, Battle of Britain, Atlantic ocean, North Africa, Italy, once again in France, in Holland, Belgium and finally in Germany, do you think that we were "pissing off" the Germans ?

Why...was Poland partitioned...though....answer that question.....

Yeah...France wanted to be the big continental power........what happened...they were thrashed..and Poles with them.....by whom..?... old Mother Russias winter and disease and the Russians themselves.....the Poles backed another looser.....and who did they hack off.....Russia

Reparations after WWI, well that didn't go down too well with the Germans.....who was foremost in making the reparations very tough on the Germans..?...Poland.........who did Poland hack off germans....who did the Germans want to slaughter as result of same....yup you've guessed...Poland!!

Spot the trend Gz..........

Poland has been in a loose/loose situation for many years...........

Both nations in their own way waited for an ideal moment to sh1t on Poland.......they have long memories......my point....really Gz.....

But the good times are around the corner...play your cards right......let lots of foreigners buy your land..develope it..make it valuable...then Poland will eventually become richer....with all the other EU/World investment too........how it all works!

But the good times are around the corner...play your cards right......let lots of foreigners buy your land..develope it..make it valuable...then Poland will eventually become richer....with all the other EU/World investment too........how it all works!



Exactly

I think thats the end of the original thread........courtesy of Giles....

LOL ! Do you really believe that we were deciding in any serious way about post-WW1 Germany ??



Because we were bad, bad and evil. Especially to Austrians... You're really weired Frank....

I know of quite a few Poles who are working in the UK, saving money to return to Poland and purchase property.

Welcome to the capitalist, democratic, selfish world. Those that can afford - will buy.

It's a sad state of affairs, but nothing will stop the tsunami. It's happening all over the world. I wish it wasn't but it is. We have already had the regional effect of this in the UK.

Because of the expansionism of Russia, Prussia and Austria.



Napoleon managed quite fine most of the times. Who could have known back then that he would eventually become a loser? Poles wanted liberation and one of the ways was through cooperation with France. Can we blame them for wanting their freedom?




A new conflict in Europe after the WWI was just a matter of time. Poles couldn't have done anything to change it. Sadly it was beyond our control.



I can agree with this.

Huzah! we share the same economic outlook!
Poland stands to be in the top table of the EU economic wise! id bet on it! ...in fact, id call that a safe bet!

Well I would be careful with this "hurrrah optimism", but there definitely is a potential.

nah, when you've studied economics for 4 years and worked in finance for the same, you can see a good thing. The signs are already around today!



understatement of the day Poland is, its potential was realised when it was accepted into the EU. That said, yes, Poland can be the next big thing! we can make Poland an economic power, an envy of the world and it would benefit poland and all European citizens

er i know im optimistic too, but again, I guess i see something you dont (as you see things i dont that leads you to your conclusions of course )

but anyways Polish land is always Polish land no matter who buys it, develops it, maintains it, etc. But it is better for Poland to be a free economic entity within the EU as this will allow it to grow. Any time a gov't has placed tariiff, levies, blocks, it usually does not benefit the people on the ground.

Puzzler, remember the story about a little boy who cried "wolf"? Think about it.

I'm just being careful.



I guess I'll have to believe you than.

has puzzler been crying wolf? no? who has then?

i dont follow! does not compute

substitute Dazzer for Puzzler.

Not "wolf", but "polonophobe". One day he will be right, but none will take him seriously then.

ahhhh, its all beginng to make sense now, dzieki lads!

Hello, Frank. Well, so you suggest that we invaded Russia 'on the backs' of the French during Napoleon's times, and that it was foolish? What do you mean by 'on the backs of the French'? Why exactly was it foolish? By the way, in the 19th century, you Irish attacked once Canada from the US territory (and were beaten back mercilessly by the English). Was the Irish attacking Canada wise, or foolish? Oh, and from what I know there were also Irish in Napoleon's army attacking Russia, weren't there? If yes, were those Irish also foolish, or wise?

wrong. it was american citizens from the NEWLY formed USofA that...



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they call themselves irish, but its just a branch of the new US's army. forgetting that poland is in iraq, there are polish descendants in america, like the irish also.

the 'called' themselves irish, and may have had irish decent. but it was not irish or ireland.

the same i could say of poles that fought for napoleon against the Russians, unless, they fought for Poland or for france? (the difference being, the 'irish' you mention were american and fought to capture canada for america)

hey maty,

i agree with you, it was a means to an end i think for poland then, the lesser of two evils perhaps, (as napoleon's actions if he won can only be debated at this stage)

The Irish, have fought in lots of countries armies throughout Europe......can I say ususally for the right cause....and more so to make a living, Irish soldiers at various times were highly prized...by many nations...as have been polish soldiers.

As regards the Napoleon thing....they saw it as an opportunity...but it went wrong then...and the Russians like to ensure enemies of all sorts are eventually dealt with....

Foolish is the wrong word....mis-guided, mistimed, failing to take a longer view.....

Daffy, so the Fenians all were born in America? By the way, what do you mean by 'forgetting that poland is in iraq' (sic)?

anyperson can call themself a fenian, and if you read the link or knew your history (or in fact, read my post!!) you'd see i said, they could be of irish decent, but that doesnt mean they attacked canada for ireland, they attacked canada as the 'fenians' a name they choose, as an american military unit to conquer canada to become apart of the newly formed united states.

ie ignoring the fact that the polish gov't sanctioned polish troops to be in iraq, lets say it never happend.

you would still find polish and irish surnames on the uniforms of the US soldiers is what im trying to say to you. Yet they both fight for america not ireland and not poland. the US. is that clearer for you?

Why would the Poles fighting the Russkies on Napoleon's side be 'misguided'? So the Irish fighting on the side of many others nations were 'misguided' too? And why do you think we fought 'on the backs' of the French? Do you mean we were sitting on their backs while fighting? By the way, the Irish also fought on our, Polish side, in at least one of our national uprisings against the Russkies. Were those Irish misguided? Did they fight on anybody's back?

....so muddled......misguided, because short term gain seemed in their grasp...but in the long term they lost out......Poland seems to have a history of doing this.....

Daffy, from what I know the Fenians fought against the English in Canada on the same principle as we Poles fought against the Germans on the British and American side in WWII. The Fenians fought for free Ireland. Were they 'misguided,' fighting on Americans' backs? Why should we ignore the fact that Polish soldiers are in Iraq? Why should we say it has never happened? There are scores of other foreign troops in Iraq: the English, Danish, Japanese, you name them.

puzzler, this american 'fenian's were infact the old union and confederate veterans that became apart of the US army in the newly formed US states. they were not irish people who came to fight for Irish freedom. check out the history man, read it, im not lying to you about this. Read the link

nothing about irish freedom or fighting for america because they were irish. just like the polish in the US army are not fighting for poland - they fight for america.

omg man i was givin you a situation - trying to show you that there would be polish in iraw even if the polish army was not!!

to the real situation, of course! i havent denied there are polish in iraq, that obvious!!! i was talking about Polish people (like irish) who went to america, leaving poland (&ireland) and NOW fight for america, NOT poland (NOT ireland)

do you understand yet?