PolishForums   Everything about Poland
Home . Polls . Search Witamy,  [Guest 38.103.63.18]  Latest Discussions . Unanswered Posts
 Please register or login below:

 » Username  » Password 
Polish Forums / Life in Poland / Start a new topic in the [Life in Poland] forum

Foreigners: Please don't buy the Polish Land!


  «« 1 2 3 ... 16 17 [18] 19 20 21 22  »»
posts: 658
 
daffy
  Apr 14, 07, 09:46  #511

Quoting: Grzegorz_
So ? It doesn't make my post incorrect.


it does if you are blaming them for what is happening to the prices. they are the minority and it is typical in all countries to blame foreigners for your own situation.

are you blaming them for the situation?

if yes, then it makes your post incorrect
if no, then it is an addition to your post

Member
Posts: 2463
Joined: Feb 5, 07
                              
Reply
TheKruk
  Apr 14, 07, 17:47  #512

Quoting: ola123
We dont want foreigners in Poland buying out our homes, go home english GO HOME and leave us alone. And dont tell me I didnt want you, Poles dont want you here bloody capitalists.

So you want the Soviets back in control ?
The solution is simple don't sell Polish land to foreigners, and don't buy Zywiec and Tyskie as they are not owned by Polish companies. Capitalism is here Ola and it will never leave and if Polska is to compete Poles must open their minds to new ideas and to business. Its a sad truth about the modern world and remember we voted to join the E.U.

Member
Posts: 379
Joined: Apr 14, 07
                              
Reply
bookratt [Guest]
  Apr 16, 07, 12:16  #513

Quoting: Grzegorz_
A guy, who buy a flat just to sell It for more in a year is not giving jobs to anyone.

I would say, yes, he is, if he uses Polish labor to fix it up or to farm it or work on it or to build the house on it.

Quoting Daffy: there are polish people doing this. in Wroclaw my friends fiance works in real estate and is doing this everyday. its not as many foreigners as you'd think.

To Daffy (I agree) and all others, I'd say this:

Here in the US you can buy a home in California for $100,000 today, add $30,000 in repairs and tomorrow or next week sell it for $500,000 (if you did the right work inside to fix it up). They call it "flipping". I used to be in real estate and this was common enough ten years ago, though it is much more popular now.

Even here in the East, far away from any major, growing, economically stable US city, you can buy for $150,000 today, do nothing at all to the property, live in it, then sell five years from now for $50-70,000 more than you paid.

Everyone does this here.

How is this a terrible thing? If you are smart and maintain the home well and hang onto your property for a bit, it will appreciate and you can sell to whoever you choose and then become rich from it. Then you buy a bigger, better property with the money you made from the first one.

This is a bad thing?

I guess I need to read up on this phenomenon over there as everyone seems so angry about it, but to me, this is life, everyday, in the US, and has been for as long as I can remember.

Can someone give me a link showing this foreign purchasing of Polish property so I can see what they mean?

Happy Monday (to those so inclined to receive such greetings)!

Guest

                              
Reply
BubbaWoo
  Apr 16, 07, 12:20  #514

Quoting: bookratt
but to me, this is life, everyday


many poles dont quite understand making the most of opportunity yet... never mind...

Member
Posts: 4906
Joined: Sep 26, 06
                              
Reply
ebinx [Guest]
  Apr 16, 07, 14:09  #515

Nothing's free of charge. In a long perspective, Poles will only benefit as much as it will cost them.

Guest

                              
Reply
LoneStranger
  Apr 16, 07, 15:12  #516

Quoting: ebinx
Poles will only benefit as much as it will cost them.

Which Pole will it benefit?

Member
Posts: 666
Joined: Jan 30, 07
                              
Reply
14WORDS [Guest]
  Apr 24, 07, 02:03  #517

I have to agree that this neo-liberal globalist garbage is an incorrect broken social model. Ola123 is correct in every aspect. The world needs a model that an accommodate everyone. global capitalism and loss of territorial integrity is not a solution. neither is mass migration. selling your country wholesale for cheap is not correct either. protectionism works if applied correctly. please see examples of USA in the 1800's and current Chinese models of tax protectionism..

Guest

                              
Reply
Giles [Guest]
  Apr 24, 07, 11:16  #518

Please expand, your arguements seem more coherent than those of Ola123, please expound your arguement as discussion is encourage. Also would you spell out what the 14 words stand for?

Guest

                              
Reply
Great Leader [Guest]
  Apr 24, 07, 13:13  #519

Quite simply Poland exists for Polish people. Sweden for Swedish people, Russia for Russians, Israel for Israeli people. The idea that foreigners can come in wholesale lots and purchase Polish land is criminal. This inevitably leads to UNDESIRABLE mass foreign population influx and other problems.

The best method in order to accommodate foreign investment is the creation of investment companies that are able to purchase in the 49% category of any European land to which they are not native. In this method they may receive 49.9% of all profits generated without the privilege of ownership. These companies can be traded on the open markets with their existing stock pool (49%) being on the open market. In this method, we have successful investment into E.U countries without selling the country literally, to foreign elements. Creative financing laws would allow you to even receive 90% of the profits and own 49% of the property.

The other solution would be to create specific "foreign investment zones" similar to Chinese "SEZ" (see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shenzhen). In this method economic growth of any kind will be permitted as long as it is contained within the SEZ. In these areas, anyone would be able to visit and do whatever they please. This would even be environmentally friendly as energy requirement distribution is focused on one particular area. Proper development of public transportation and trams could reduce private vehicle usage thereby allowing the meeting of Kyoto protocol level agreements.

Indeed if not for the cause of the country, for the cause of the environment growth should be planned in proper methods. In this way we avoid foreigners purchasing the country, environment is preserved as specific development only occurs in approved areas subject to legal development with greenhouse gas emissions controlled due to the lack of urban sprawl.

Western syphilization with mass suburban housing divisions, cars for everyone, broken multi-culturalism with ethnic ghettos, spreads of HIV/AIDS brought in from 3rd world countries, excessive credit card debt, and finally the worst crime. Lowering of educational standards to meet "multi-cultural" needs, is not what European society needs to prosper.

Proof:
French- race riots of recent memory.
Sweden - where entire areas are ethnic ghettos subject to regular riots.
UK- 3rd world areas resembling the places these people come from with similar behaviors brought about by them.
USA- L.A. race riots, recent NYC race protesting.

Influx of mass foreign populations leads to tensions in society and the decay of that society. In order for a culture to exist it must have a standard upon which it functions. Introduction of even moderate quantities of foreign elements leads to dysfunction of such host culture. These people would take at least 2-3 generations to fully assimilate, and often do not simply because they view European society as alien to them.

Therefore this leads to creation of ethnic ghettos, which causes many social problems and decay of a country from within. Why should [any] but more specifically European country subject themselves to internal decay and slums brought about by mass immigration through availability of land or even apartments to foreigners? No Thank You.

Guest

                              
Reply
miranda
Edited by: miranda  Apr 24, 07, 13:14  #520

another president of the world

Member
Posts: 3852
Joined: Nov 13, 06
                              
Reply
Ranj
  Apr 24, 07, 13:38  #521

Quoting: Great Leader
Western syphilization

Is that anything like Eastern Europe Gonnorhea?

Member
Posts: 1700
Joined: Sep 29, 06
                              
Reply
espana
  Apr 24, 07, 13:41  #522

Quoting: Great Leader
Poland exists for Polish people. Sweden for Swedish people, Russia for Russians, Israel for Israeli people

i didnt think in that!!!!! never ......you are very clever man

Member
Posts: 1062
Joined: Feb 28, 07
                              
Reply
Chris777m [Guest]
Edited by: Moderator  Apr 25, 07, 13:59  #523

If the Poles can come to Britain and have British jobs then it's fair that the Brits buy Polish land.

Guest

                              
Reply
Chris777m [Guest]
  Apr 25, 07, 14:03  #524

The Poles need to keep up with the times. Many of the people who are investing in Poland (I use the word investing appropriately) are of Polish origin and until now favourable to Poland.

Mind you, saying that, I have never met a bigger lot of rogues in my life. Poles who claim that they are qualified tradespeople and end up doing botched jobs and overcharging foreigners. Hostility from Poland will create resentment of Poles abroad. It acn't all be one way.

Guest

                              
Reply
Chris777m [Guest]
  Apr 25, 07, 14:06  #525

What a lot of nonsense from 'Great Leader who states 'Quite simply Poland exists for Polish people. Sweden for Swedish people, Russia for Russians, Israel for Israeli people. The idea that foreigners can come in wholesale lots and purchase Polish land is criminal. This inevitably leads to UNDESIRABLE mass foreign population influx and other problems.'

No wonder there is ethnic cleansing, wars and terrorism. Ever heard of integration, and tolerance.

God help mankind with views like that.

Guest

                              
Reply
Giles [Guest]
  Apr 26, 07, 09:58  #526

Truth is only mankind can help mankind.

Guest

                              
Reply
Decorator
  Apr 26, 07, 10:02  #527

I wish mankind could help me at work today !!

Member
Posts: 493
Joined: Aug 26, 06
                              
Reply
Grzegorz_
  Apr 26, 07, 10:04  #528

Quoting: Great Leader
Quite simply Poland exists for Polish people. Sweden for Swedish people, Russia for Russians,


True.

Member
Posts: 5116
Joined: Nov 16, 06
                              
Reply
Decorator
  Apr 26, 07, 10:06  #529

Quoting: Great Leader
Quite simply Poland exists for Polish people. Sweden for Swedish people, Russia for Russians, Israel for Israeli people


And Isle of Wight for Isle of Wight people !!!

Member
Posts: 493
Joined: Aug 26, 06
                              
Reply
Giles [Guest]
  Apr 26, 07, 10:21  #530

And the Falklands for....

Australia for the aboriginees....

America for the Native Indians...

Um.....homeland for the Kurds....

Scotland for the Scots...

The arguement starts wearing a little thin.....

Guest

                              
Reply
FISZ
  Apr 26, 07, 10:24  #531

...and Midgetville for Midgets!! Stay out goons!!

Member
Posts: 3164
Joined: Jun 14, 06
                              
Reply
Decorator
  Apr 26, 07, 10:27  #532

Them poor midgets have been supressed for too long now...

Member
Posts: 493
Joined: Aug 26, 06
                              
Reply
Giles [Guest]
  Apr 26, 07, 10:34  #533

yeah..they need to stand tall.....

Guest

                              
Reply
cezarek [Guest]
  Apr 26, 07, 11:30  #534

Far more Poles own houses in Britain than British people own houses in Poland.

Guest

                              
Reply
cezarek [Guest]
  Apr 26, 07, 11:40  #535

And some of us arrived in Poland with nothing, and have worked hard to buy our own homes - and no reason why we shouldn't!

Guest

                              
Reply
FISZ
  Apr 26, 07, 11:43  #536

Quoting: cezarek
And some of us arrived in Poland with nothing, and have worked hard to buy our own homes - and no reason why we shouldn't!

No, there isn't. I believe a lot of things in this topic are said out of spite anyway.

Member
Posts: 3164
Joined: Jun 14, 06
                              
Reply
daffy
  Apr 26, 07, 12:26  #537

Quoting: FISZ
a lot of things in this topic are said out of spite anyway.


God, right zer, everyone goes over really, zuper!!! :P

Member
Posts: 2463
Joined: Feb 5, 07
                              
Reply
Johanna [Guest]
  Apr 29, 07, 00:06  #538

Quoting: ola123

We dont want foreigners in Poland buying out our homes, go home english GO HOME and leave us alone. And dont tell me I didnt want you, Poles dont want you here bloody capitalists.


Nobody cares what you are thinking ola, they only know that you are stupid and jealous of the prosperity of other cultures. If you expect for Polish to go abroad and buy land in other countries, you need to prepare your narrow mind for the event in which others buy polish land. You better also get down on your knees and kiss the feet of the foreigners who saved your family from Hitler. You forgot about him didnt you ungrateful ola?

Guest

                              
Reply
witek
  Apr 29, 07, 00:21  #539

Quoting: Great Leader
Poland exists for Polish people


Polska dla Polakow, Ziemia dla Ziemniakow

Member
Posts: 867
Joined: Apr 1, 07
                              
Reply
sledz
Edited by: Moderator  May 1, 07, 08:04  #540

Quoting: DaRightWord
except with the American idiots


We have poles, germans, chinese,mexicans, irish, koreans, africans, etc.. were the
melting pot of the world.

stop talking smack.............. Bozo

Member
Posts: 2424
Joined: Sep 19, 06
                              
Reply
  «« 1 2 3 ... 16 17 [18] 19 20 21 22  »» Similar Threads¦Latest Discussions Go UPtop of page

Home / Life in Poland /

Your Reply re: Foreigners: Please don't buy the Polish Land! 

Bold  Italic  Horizontal Line  Cite Source 
Ą  ą  Ć  ć  Ę  ę  Ł  ł  Ń  ń  Ó  ó  Ś  ś  Ź  ź  Ż  ż

 If you read this, you are probably not a registered user yet and cannot access all forums and features!

 - Before creating a new topic, make sure to follow the Topic Title Creation Rules.
 - Your message must comply with the General Forum Rules.
 - If you have further questions, check the Forum FAQ & Feedback section.

 To post anonymously, please enter a temporary and unique Username (without password).


 Please register or login below:

 » Username  » Password 

Newer thread in this forum: Older thread in this forum:
Poverty in Poland Real life of a Polish (the Great Woman, or even the Humble Man) :)


55 users online in the last hour [Guests - 41 / Members - 14] All times are CST (GMT -6)

Home . Latest Discussions . Unanswered Posts . Statistics
© 2005-08 PolishForums.com | About Us | Contact Us | Privacy, TOS, Rules | Poland Advertising | Support PF