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Cywilizacyjny postęp?



Polonius3Threads: 963
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Joined: Apr 11, 08 ♂ 		 Jan 28, 10, 12:24    #1
PM Tusk in announcing plans not to stand for prresident, said:
'Ja nie chcę uczestniczyć w wyścigu, którego celem jest pałac i zaszczyt, ja chcę uczestniczyć w batalii, której celem jest cywilizacyjny postęp.'


ZiemowitThreads: 10
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Joined: May 8, 09 ♂ 		 Jan 28, 10, 12:39    #2
"Cywilizacyjny postęp" or did he say "cywilizacyjny podstęp" ?


Polonius3Threads: 963
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Joined: Apr 11, 08 ♂ 		Edited by: Polonius3  Jan 28, 10, 13:01    #3
Podstęp may indeed be more appropriate in view of the gadget-infested, rip-off world we live in. My question however was to find a good way to translate cywilizacyjny into English.
Maybe someone should coin the adjectival form civilisational.

Re 'dobra osobiste' I found reputatiuon infringement at this site. Seems to be about the closest so far:
http://www.eastlaborlaw.com/en/work/HR_detail.asp?newsid=8


ZiemowitThreads: 10
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Joined: May 8, 09 ♂ 		 Jan 28, 10, 13:20    #4
Polonius3:
cywilizacyjny postęp

Polonius3:
Maybe someone should coin the adjectival form civilisational.

I think you might use "rat race" which in absentia of a better term will do nicely.


strzygaThreads: 4
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Joined: Apr 30, 08 ♀ 		 Jan 28, 10, 16:25    #5
Polonius3:
Maybe someone should coin the adjectival form civilisational.

It's been coined already - google it.


z_dariusThreads: 22
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Joined: Oct 18, 07 ♂ 		 Jan 28, 10, 18:15    #6
Polonius3:
Podstęp may indeed be more appropriate in view of the gadget-infested, rip-off world we live in. My question however was to find a good way to translate cywilizacyjny into English.
Maybe someone should coin the adjectival form civilisational.

With the use of "cywilizacyjny" the author is likely underlining the scope of the progress.
Considering that civilization is in the same semantic field as culture (society), perhaps cultural progress might fit your needs.


AdamKadmon  Mar 5, 10, 19:46    #7
He may have good intentions. After all to civilize is to bring out of savagery or barbarism into a state characteristic of civilization.
Can postęp/progress be brought out of a primitive, savage and barbaric state and made more polished and sophisticated? That is the question.


AdamKadmon  Mar 5, 10, 21:11    #8
Maybe the best translation of 'postęp cywilizacyjny' would be socio-economic progress.



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