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A good English translation for ideowy?

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Edited by: Moderator Feb 25, 11, 15:43 #1

Very large dictionaries such as my 3-kg (6.6-lb) Wenster include the terms ideative and ideational, but one doesn't find them used much in normal speech or writing.
Is there a good translation for ideowy other than idealistic or ideological? In Polish idealistyczny also exists.
Is there some semantic difference between ideowy and idealistyczny?
What about ideowiec - a man of ideals, man of principle, idealist?
And ideowość - idealism, altruism, devotion (to a cause)?
Anything better?

kate22	Feb 25, 11, 15:50 #2
Polonius3: Is there some semantic difference between ideowy and idealistyczny? Yes there is. Ideowy is derived from ideology Idealistyczny is derived from idealism Ideowe założenia doktryny, ideowe założenia manifestu, ideowe założenia partii politycznej etc. Idealistyczne podejście do życia, idealistyczny altruizm, idealistyczny charakter

JaneDoeThreads: 7 Posts: 237 Joined: Sep 26, 08 ♂	Feb 25, 11, 15:54 #3
The title of this thread doesn't say much. Would you care changing it, P3?

Polonius3Threads: 1,005 Posts: 4,833 Joined: Apr 11, 08 ♂	Feb 25, 11, 16:17 #4
OK, let the heading read: A good English translation for ideowy? And further on the subject... How would ideowe założenia doktryny or manifestu differ from ideologiczne założenia? And it's the English equivalents I'm most interested in.

AdamKadmonThreads: 38 Posts: 1,120 Joined: Apr 23, 10 ♂	Feb 25, 11, 21:01 #5
Polonius3: ideowe założenia doktryny or manifestu ideowy has two meanings 1. (ideologiczny) [e.g. about doctrines or manifests] ideological 2. (bezinteresowny) [e.g. about people or their attitudes] idealistic So in the context you provided only ideological fits.

Polonius3Threads: 1,005 Posts: 4,833 Joined: Apr 11, 08 ♂	Mar 3, 11, 16:06 #6
So is their any subtle shading of difference betweeen an ideowiec and idealista?

AdamKadmonThreads: 38 Posts: 1,120 Joined: Apr 23, 10 ♂	Mar 3, 11, 16:15 #7
Polonius3: difference betweeen an ideowiec and idealista? Those two words are very close in meaning - synonyms.

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