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Translation for ..."Kiedy za pomocą swojego prototypu przedostałem..."


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Raffael1984Threads: 4
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Joined: Aug 30, 10 ♂ 		Edited by: Moderator  Oct 30, 10, 19:42    #1
"Kiedy za pomocą swojego prototypu przedostałem się tutaj, nawet mi się nie śniło, że te stwory mnie wykorzystają."?

I am especially confused by the first part of the sentence.

Dzięki!

Raffael
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Joined: May 20, 10 ♂ 		 Oct 30, 10, 19:48    #2
Raffael1984:
I am especially confused by the first part of the sentence.


well that sentence IS confusing...
SeanusThreads: 22
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Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂ 		 Oct 30, 10, 19:49    #3
It looks odd indeed, Raf

Maybe it should be z pomocą (with help)? Za means for and behind usually. When I got the help of your prototype here, I wasn't even dreaming, that they were using me/used me or my creation??

I don't get it. I'm not Polish but it looks 'iffy' to me.
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Joined: May 20, 10 ♂ 		 Oct 30, 10, 19:51    #4
Seanus:
Maybe it should be z pomocą (with help)? Za means for and behind usually.


Nope. Za pomocą is also correct and fits here better.
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Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂ 		 Oct 30, 10, 19:52    #5
Aha, ok. I'm not really back into thinking in Polish yet. I'm just not familiar with that structure tbh.
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Raffael1984:
"Kiedy za pomocą swojego prototypu przedostałem się tutaj, nawet mi się nie śniło, że te stwory mnie wykorzystają."?


When I managed to get here with the help (useing for that) my prototype, I never thought that those creatures will use me.
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Joined: Apr 1, 06  Pictures: 3 ♂ [Moderator] 		 Oct 30, 10, 19:54    #7
when it comes from Google.... put it back in Google:

"When using your prototype he got here, even I never dreamed that these creatures will use me."?
Raffael1984Threads: 4
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Joined: Aug 30, 10 ♂ 		 Oct 30, 10, 19:55    #8
Hmmm... according to PONS "za pomocą" means "with the help of".

I think I cracked it "When I got here by means of my prototype I never dreamed that those monsters would use me."

That should do it ... I mean it's not rocket sience ... it's Kaczor Donald ;-)
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Raffael1984:
"When I got here by means of my prototype I never dreamed that those monsters would use me."


exactly.

Do you translate some book?

zetigrek:
it's Kaczor Donald ;-)


oh... Kaczor Donald, ok...
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Joined: Apr 30, 08 ♀ 		 Oct 30, 10, 19:59    #10
Raffael1984:
"When I got here by means of my prototype I never dreamed that those monsters would use me."


Correct.
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Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂ 		 Oct 30, 10, 20:01    #11
Wow, I'm laying off the translations for a while. I was miles off. Don't confuse za with z, Raf.
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Joined: Apr 30, 08 ♀ 		 Oct 30, 10, 20:17    #12
now, don't be so upset, Seanus. "Za pomocą" may mean the same as "z pomocą" or even "przy pomocy". Still, they're not completely interchangeable.

And now you might be able to better appreciate the efforts of your students striving to master English phrasal verbs ;)
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strzyga:
"z pomocą"


z pomocą przyjaciół
za pomocą śrubokręta.

Z pomocą śrubokręta brzmi "koślawo", nie uważasz?

strzyga:
efforts of your students striving to master English phrasal verbs ;)


rather idiomatic experssions ;)
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Joined: Apr 30, 08 ♀ 		 Oct 30, 10, 20:59    #14
zetigrek:
Z pomocą śrubokręta brzmi "koślawo", nie uważasz?

yes, basically it's: z pomocą - of a person, za pomocą - of an object, przy pomocy - can be either.

zetigrek:
rather idiomatic experssions ;)

oh but they're mostly the same - I mean most English idioms contain some phrasal verb or other


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