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Joined: Apr 11, 08 ♂ 		 Nov 5, 10, 22:32    #1
WIhajster (from German 'Wie heißt er?' = What's his/its name?) is used in Polish when one can't recall the exact name for soemthing. Another is the expression 'ten tego' or 'jak mu tam?' Are there any others in general use?
My impression is that there is a great paucity of equivalents to similar English expressions which include: whichamacallit, whozit, whatzit, blivit, gizmo, gimcrack, thingum, thingy,thingumabob, thingumadad, thingumadoodle, thingumajig, thingumajigger, thingumaree, dingus, dofunny, dohickey, dojigger, dojiggy, domajig, domajigger, doodad, dowhacky, flumdiddle, etc.
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Joined: Apr 2, 07 ♂ 		 Nov 5, 10, 22:43    #2
You read the article in Spiegel, didn't you?
http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/web/0,1518,722326,00.html

They made a whole dictionary with german words in the polish language...:)

http://www.bis.uni-oldenburg.de/bis-verlag/wdlp/all_A.html
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dzyngiel, pipsztyk
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Sehr interessant (very interesitng). Anyone know any Polish loanwords in German other than Gurke (ogórek), Litewka (a kind of mediaeval soldier's helmet) and Droschke (dorożka)?
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Joined: Apr 30, 08 ♀ 		Edited by: strzyga  Nov 6, 10, 00:07    #5
Loads of technical and engineering words.
śruba, wajcha, hebel, krajzega, majster, ślusarz
Have you any access to Słownik wyrazów obcych (Kopaliński or PWN?) There's tons of them.

Oh, and you may like this:
http://www.joemonster.org/phorum/read.php?f=13&i=407&t=407
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Joined: Apr 11, 08 ♂ 		 Nov 6, 10, 00:07    #6
Also Grenze (granica), Stieglitz (szczygieł) and Zeisig (czyżyk).
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Joined: Apr 11, 08 ♂ 		 Nov 6, 10, 14:59    #7
You missed my point. Thre are thousands of German loanwords in Polish. I was interested in Polish/Slavonic loanwords in German. There is only a handful.
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oh, OK, sorry for the misunderstanding. My German is quite poor so I can't help you the other way around.
lyzko  Nov 6, 10, 15:50    #9
szlafrok - Schlafrock

ratusz - Rathaus

wigec - (dialect Polish only, probably from Silesia!) Reisender Handelsmann or 'travelling salesman' who always inquires 'Wie geht's?' = How are you?, hence 'wiegec' in Polish
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flaszka
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lyzko:
wiegec


"Wie gehts" in german! (I only got it as I spoke the word aloud). The writing alone tells me nothing!
Interesting :)
Lyzko  Nov 6, 10, 16:10    #12
Exactly, BratBoy! In Polish, they write as they hear the word pronounced, not as it's written in the original, i.e., in German-:)))
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Joined: Apr 11, 08 ♂ 		 Nov 6, 10, 16:14    #13
I heard that "wyjebana w lesie" is Silesian for 'the train is whistling in the forest'. Or is that just a joke?
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I searched for polish words in german but so far Google didn't show up anything but there must be some.
I would be interested to learn about them too...so if someone finds any please post! :)

edit: Found something:
http://www.duden.de/deutsche_sprache/sprachberatung/newsletter/archiv. php?id=216

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Weniger bekannt ist, dass auch aus slawischen Sprachen einiges ins Deutsche eingesickert ist, so etwa Grenze (aus russisch/polnisch granica) oder Gurke (aus polnisch ogorek, älter: ogurek). Aber auch einige Wörter aus dem Sorbischen (heute sprechen in Brandenburg und Sachsen noch etwa 50000 Menschen Sorbisch) haben einen festen Platz im deutschen Wortschatz gefunden, so eben auch – zumindest regional – Plauze (für Bauch, Lunge) aus sorbisch pluco (Lungenflügel) und allgemein verbreitet Peitsche aus sorbisch bic (bzw. polnisch bicz).
Aber auch den Quark, aus dem wir bisweilen nicht kommen, verdanken wir dem sorbischen/polnischen twarog, ebenso einige Tiernamen wie beispielsweise Nerz, sorbisch norc (dies wiederum aus dem ukrainischen noryca, eigentlich „Taucher“).
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Joined: Apr 30, 08 ♀ 		Edited by: strzyga  Nov 6, 10, 16:45    #15
I think the name Leipzig also comes from Lusatian (in Polish it's Lipsk, from lipa - linden tree).

Polonius3:
I heard that "wyjebana w lesie" is Silesian for 'the train is whistling in the forest'. Or is that just a joke?

a joke, though the Silesians really use "bana" for train
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Joined: Apr 11, 08 ♂ 		 Nov 6, 10, 17:36    #16
Isn't Nerz from Polish norka (mink)? The Quark < twaróg slipped my mind.
Lyzko  Nov 6, 10, 17:36    #17
.....therefore 'lipiec' for 'June' when the linden grows.

Bratwurt B. raises a linguistically intriguing question and the German entry in less enlightening. When I first started learning Polish, I was struck by the sheer number of German loanwords, though not vice-versa-:))
Lyzko  Nov 6, 10, 17:37    #18
Sorry, I meant that the German entry is NO LESS enlighteningLOL (typo!!)
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Joined: Apr 11, 08 ♂ 		 Nov 6, 10, 17:38    #19
BTW does German have anywhere as many words for thingy, doodad, gizmo, etc. as English? What are some?
Lyzko  Nov 6, 10, 17:40    #20
Sure! 'Dingsbums', Dingsda, etc... definitely. We use them all over in colloquial speech, though never in formal writing!
Lyzko  Nov 6, 10, 17:52    #21
Whooopsidaisee!!! I made another stupid typo. I wanted to type 'lipiec' = July, not June (czerwiec).
APOLOGIES
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I say "Dingsbums" in every second sentence...surely! heh:)

Lyzko:
Whooopsidaisee!!!


Calm down....I know these days....typos galore...ja ja...*nods understandingly*
Lyzko  Nov 6, 10, 18:33    #23
"Ich hab' Dings... bzw. Dingsbums von blah-blah-blah....."= I ......the watchamacallit.".. right you are. Maybe Polish uses "Czegokolwiek", or some such thing-:))LOL


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