PolishForums   Poland Now and Then
Home . Polls . Search Witamy,  [Guest 38.103.63.18]  Latest Discussions . Unanswered Posts
 Please register or login below:

 » Username  » Password 
Polish Forums / Polish Politics & History /

Free Trade and Globalization - Good or Bad?


posts: 11
 
Dice
Edited by: Dice  Mar 7, 08, 16:31  #1

Free trade is a term in economics and government which means that anyone can move goods, workers and services across borders without taxes, tariffs and quotas. It is a core part of the new Global World.

What we are seeing now is only the beginnings of it.

Here is a quick glimpse from the future: pretty soon your country's borders will not exist anymore, migrant workers and businesses will move freely. There won't be any differences between countries, no more national languages, local governments will become powerless. The income will be about equal all around the world. Pakistan, Vietnam, UK, US, all the same. How does 5-10 thousands of EU or USD a year sounds to you?

Member
Posts: 424
Joined: Nov 27, 07
                              
 
Grzegorz_
  Mar 7, 08, 16:38  #2

Dice wrote:
pretty soon your country's borders will not exist anymore, migrant workers and businesses will move freely.


That's pretty much what already exists in Europe...

Dice wrote:
There won't be any differences between countries anymore, no more national languages, local governments will become powerless.


Dice wrote:
The income will be about equal all around the world.


...these marxist BS don't happen...

Member
Posts: 5146
Joined: Nov 16, 06
                              
 
Wroclaw
  Mar 7, 08, 16:49  #3

Dice wrote:
no more national languages,


I doubt this. As an example, Welsh has just been added to the EU official list of Euro languages.
The founding members of the EU, after all this time, haven't changed languages, so why should any other country do so.

Member
Posts: 3126
Joined: Apr 1, 06
                              
 
Feliks
  Mar 7, 08, 21:52  #4

I think globalisation can be a good thing. Wouldn't it be great to have one perfect Earth rather than squabbling nations throwing sanctions at each other. I think that Poland could be used as an example for now the loss of borders and even of power, does not mean the loss of a nationality and culture. Poland has always existed since Mieszko the first, despite not officially existing for some of the time.

It's about time that the world stopped being so greedy and regarded everyone on (or even off) the planet as equal with the same rights. National politics places the rights of people born outside of their borders as less important. Nobody chooses where they were born, so why should the government of some foreign country be less considerate to me than to somebody who by luch was born inside its borders?

Having said that, I don't know that we're going the right way about it. I think there is a general need in the world to simplify, and look at what is really needed.

Member
Posts: 16
Joined: Mar 6, 08
                              
 
tico378
  Mar 7, 08, 22:28  #5

Dice wrote:
There won't be any differences between countries, no more national languages, local governments will become powerless. The income will be about equal all around the world.


Hmm…Sounds a bit utopian to me. Globalization is good! Companies have to operate in maximum efficiency to be able to compete only the best companies would survive! That would maximize the quality of goods in services. If your country if highly subsidized by the government globalization will be bad. What are Poland’s major exports?

Member
Posts: 6
Joined: Mar 7, 08
                              
 
Dice
Edited by: Dice  Mar 10, 08, 20:27  #6

Here is an interesting example of outsourcing and globalisation from the US perspective: The US military awarded a 35-billion-dollar military aircraft deal to a French company instead of the American Boening, taking tens of thousands of jobs out of the US and giving them to France instead.
Basically what they did is they took the jobs away from the American soldiers returning from Iraq and Afghanistan and gave those jobs to French who refused to support the US in Iraq and Afghanistan. Go figure.
US lawmakers blast Boeing defense contract snub

Member
Posts: 424
Joined: Nov 27, 07
                              
 
Grzegorz_
  Mar 10, 08, 20:35  #7

It's not so simple as Airbus is not only French but rather "European" and they have factories around the world and airplanes ordered by Pentagon will be largly produced in USA.

Member
Posts: 5146
Joined: Nov 16, 06
                              
 
Dice
  Mar 10, 08, 20:39  #8

No, Greg, Airbus does not have plants in the States.
"We should have an American tanker built by an American company with American workers," said Republican Representative Todd Tiahrt.

"I cannot believe we would create French jobs in place of Kansas jobs."


Member
Posts: 424
Joined: Nov 27, 07
                              
 
plk123
  Mar 10, 08, 21:17  #9

Crnogorac wrote:
Written by Sergei Mikheev

commie drivel dude. have fun living in russia.

also what was said of america was said by someone who has not one real clue about america as america has always been made up of immigrants.. there are no threats... it;s all good.

chechnya has a right to self determinations no matter what russia really thinks about it.

globalization does not mean the end of the world. it just means that it should be easier for everyone. i don't really see any negative effects from it. it's working like it;s supposed to.
Dice wrote:
Go figure.

may want to refigure that again man. there won't be any job losses.. and where did this returning from war soldier work before? there is no jobs out there all of a sudden? i see the unemployment numbers in historically lowest levels.
Dice wrote:
We should have an American tanker built by an American company with American workers," said Republican Representative Todd Tiahrt.

"I cannot believe we would create French jobs in place of Kansas jobs."

the cold hard truth is that americans just are unable to compete. nothing wrong with that. time to improvise.

Member
Posts: 3239
Joined: Aug 29, 07
                              
 
Mali
  Mar 10, 08, 22:02  #10

Dice wrote:
Here is an interesting example of outsourcing and globalisation from the US perspective: The US military awarded a 35-billion-dollar military aircraft deal to a French company instead of the American Boening, taking tens of thousands of jobs out of the US and giving them to France instead.
Basically what they did is they took the jobs away from the American soldiers returning from Iraq and Afghanistan and gave those jobs to French who refused to support the US in Iraq and Afghanistan. Go figure.

Another interesting example of this would be all those US corporations that outsourced jobs to China (sweatshops and factories), basically carving the way for China to become a superpower manufacturer. Now China has trillions in foreign reserves and the US owes A LOT of money to China. Maybe if the MNCs kept the jobs domestically, the US wouldn't be owing China so much money, because China wouldn't have the money in the first place.

re: Free Trade
I have my issues with this topic because 'free trade' is rarely fair trade. It usually serves to be advantageous for the world's rich countries, while at times screwing poor countries (rich countries suddenly reserve the right for protectionist policies while the poor countries have no choice but to sell of resources. i.e water in Bolivia was privatized. It sounds completely ridiculous but citizens have to pay for every drop of water they consume, including rainwater). But then, shouldn't I be happy and relieved since I live in one of the 'rich' countries?

Member
Posts: 461
Joined: Mar 3, 08
                              
 
z_darius
  Mar 10, 08, 22:18  #11

Dice wrote:
Basically what they did is they took the jobs away from the American soldiers returning from Iraq and Afghanistan and gave those jobs to French who refused to support the US in Iraq and Afghanistan. Go figure.

Nothing to do with American jobs or sympathies. Some technologies are simply better outside the US. Simple as that.

Btw. did you know that most advanced military weapons and equipment is run by computer code written in a language designed also by the French - The ADA programming language. The language was commissioned to Honeywell Bull of France in 1977. No American company at the time could match the solid and reliable and sophisticated design the Frenchies offered.

Member
Posts: 2228
Joined: Oct 18, 07
                              
 
Similar Threads¦Latest Discussions Go UPtop of page

Home / Polish Politics & History /


Only registered and logged-in users may post here. Please login or register.

Newer thread in this forum: Older thread in this forum:
How to call non-Poles ? European Union to learn facts "WW2 Polish expellees" 70 years later?


130 users online in the last hour [Guests - 71 / Members - 59] All times are CST (GMT -6)

Home . Latest Discussions . Unanswered Posts . Statistics
© 2005-08 PolishForums.com | About Us | Contact Us | Privacy, TOS, Rules | Poland Advertising | Support PF