Gang attack Polish man with knife

Wow, says the Scottish man who himself is a racist! How hypocritical of you.

Get better Polish man, and hopefully the racist scoundrels who did this get put behind bars. Always attacking in gangs eh! How brave of them!

OK, I know someone got horribly injured but, for some reason, I was reminded of this.....
Dead Chicken
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Isn't a chicken 'foetus' a bit small?
I'll just have to go and check the eggs in the kitchen.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/5228848.stm, NI/Scots

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/3857221.stm, Welsh/English

Look at the stats Greg, Brits attack Brits all the time. Where is the proof beyond reasonable doubt that they attacked him because he was Polish?

The proof is found in some of the British people themselves, and their attitudes towards Poles and other Eastern European immigrants. You have a perfect example of them in No-Immigration, right on PF here, and in other members who have come along the way, and who are now probably banned.
With prevailing attitudes like that, then I don't doubt at all that Poles would be targetted.

Prevailing attitudes Fil1, I think not. U r a friendly member on PF so I'm gonna try and argue rationally, without emotion. Noimmigration has been slated by almost every Scottish member on this forum, his views don't broadly represent our sentiments at all.

Proof beyond reasonable doubt is high Fil1. There is no proof that it was a racially motivated attack although there is some level of probability that it was.

Let's not make this an international duel as it serves no purpose in my eyes.

Where's ur PROOF Fil1? That which would stand up in a court of law.

your talking about a minority of people mate, there is no way that the majority of people are 'fed up with poles' specifically, i think its rubbish and i think your trying to wind a few people up :)

Yes "some" as in a minority. However, because they are the negative views they are the ones being heard. By papers like the Daily Mail and by people who do not want to listen to anything else.

As usual, the people who are enjoying having Polish people around, who are learning about a different culture, learning an new language and making new friends, these are the people who are not heard...

Then again, some people hear or read one or two negative views and decide an entire nation thinks that way...sad...

Most Brits just want any immigrant group to make the best contribution they can. I have to say that, in recent years, I haven't heard of that many attacks. There are so many dodgy areas in British cities, where many Poles live. I'd be looking over my shoulder in those areas. I've heard from many folks back home that they love the shops that the Poles have brought. Bigos and gołąbki are the kinds of foods that many Scots love.

I know that, notice how I said "some." There is anger against Poles and immigrants, you can't deny that. There have been many such incidents already, and more to come, unfortunately. The Poles would do better for themselves by sitting tight at home in Poland, and trying to make the country a better place. Brits, Scots, and Irish have shown their true face lately. There is resentement towards the immigrants, this is plain to see.



Yes, its a minority. But who knows how long it will stay that way? Hopefully, Polands new job opportunities at home will begin to drag some of these people back where they can be safer from hostility.



This is not the first time this has happened.
Like I say, minority it may be, but if people begin to be more and more fed up, with people like no-immigration leading the pack, then incidences like this will happen more and more.



Yes, this is true. So why not start showing those stories more and more? What is the Western morbid ideology behind this, by showing murders and crimes against the immigrants, but not good stories? There is some underlying attitude, and sick fascination.

So any hospitality was just a lie? This is the true face?

A few months ago on a trip to the 24-hour garage, some oiks tried to start on me and my flatmate. It was only after they had started to get aggressive that they found out that one of us wasn't English. "You're not even English!" has become a bit of a catchphrase in my flat since then. If we were both English, does anyone think they might have decided they didn't want to start a fight, or were they the kind of chav scum who would try to pick a fight with anyone?

Anyway, the police were already out looking for them. The police car pulled up just ahead of us and after some questioning, me and my flatmate were told to go whilst the chavs... No, I'm not sure what happened to them.

If the victim is Polish, is it always because they are Polish?

There you go, all lumped into one. One Scottish idiota posts on PF and all Scots think the same...yeah right.



Is one insignificant person. Don't dare base the thoughts of an entire nation on the hate he spouts here.



It's British media way. Death and violence comes before anything else.

Although if someone puts wheels on their garden shed and fits an engine to it, waters the pansies on its window-box then takes it for a spin around their local shops or town centre, that sort of thing gets a look-in too.

Brits, u mean English Fil1?

No, my dear, there have been many, not just one on this forum. And I lived in England for a few years while studying, and got to know some of the prevalent mindsets. Some of the things I heard were sickening indeed...




I'm not generalizing the entire nation here. I have never said "All Brits, or All Scots.." There has to be a problem there if there have been this many violent acts, isn't there?


Yes, pessimistic news always first to start off your day the right way..



British... yes.

Again, where is ur proof? There haven't been that many attacks overall. Poles live in dangerous areas where attacks are very common. ANYBODY can be attacked there

Then you chose to mix with the wrong people.



So what else?



But you wrote this:


So everything about that sentance tells me you mean all.



There are horrendous acts every day between English people, Scottish people, Irish people all on each other. It's a sad fact of life, there are sick nasty people out there who will just live for violence.



It is rarely because they are Polish.



Locally...there should be more of that kind of thing though... :)

No. These were university students. Some of them were such fascist bastards that I had to pinch myself to make sure I wasn't in 1930 Nazi Germany. I can only imagine what some less educated men and women have as their attitudes.
Some carry a fake, public face, during their work day, and they go on to plan crimes like these.



So what does this imply? There is some problem then, with these areas. Its the Poles fault now that they can only afford flats in these areas?



That was simply a spelling mistake, I'm sorry.



... In some places more than others...

All over the world. Sick people, sick violence. Don't pretend that it's only Poles that are attacked in the UK, infact, they are in the minority. It's mostly people from the UK who are victims of violence in the UK.

There are problems in those areas Fil1, that's what I'm saying. If Poles come and live in those areas, they must face the consequences. I'm left-wing here tho, it's not their fault they are poor sometimes but the same can be said for poor Scots.

Poorer areas tend to be more densely populated, thus giving anyone who happens to be there more of the whole spectrum of humanity to witness or be subjected to. It's not just in the newspapers that the bad can be seen more clearly than the good. That is in the minds of people.

Well said!! They sometimes steal or attack out of compulsion rather than anything else. Unfortunately, hatred knows no boundaries and we are all at risk

No one has been arrested for the attack. How do we know who did it? Maybe it wasnt a British person, could have equally been, Russians, Portuguese, Kurds, Iraqis or even other Poles.
Food for thought.....

A 32-year-old man has been arrested in connection with the attack. This is from the article djf

Polish knifeman jailed after stabbing



Obviously a racist attack (?)

Obviously, ;), LOL

No, isthatu is right.
When I was a kid they didn't write an newspaper article every time a bunch of kids scratched themselves while shaving their juvenile facial hair.

It furthers the antagonism that is going to get more and more people attacked, or even killed. We have seen this from history, IRA VS UDF, Israel Vs Hamas/Hezbollah etc (present), there is no need to inflame the situation anymore.

The flip side is that we should be grateful that more and more cases aren't being reported. Yes, it would convey a truer picture were they to be but lessening international hostility should be of greater concern

i thought that bustards eat worms and seeds not swans

Everyone will ignore this.