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Patrycja19
  May 30, 07, 13:14  #1

I dont know about anyone else who lives in America, those visiting America from
Poland, but our gas prices keep going up..

the other day I flipped my lid at a gas station, I know this doesnt solve anything
but I felt better after I said something to the attendant who is probably part
owner, and said you would be gas gougeing now would you?? cause its pretty
sad that gas prices go up and people who are in a worse situation then some
cant even buy it to go to the store to buy food.. isnt that sad??

to me its sad, the whole idea of it. I had planned to go north this summer, I really
dont think that will happen..

travel/tourism goes down when the prices go up, so why would they do this to
spite themselfs?? or is it one mans doing?

what is the gas prices like in poland? are you suffering along with us?
what about the UK ???

heck with it, whats it like all over?? everyone got something to say about this??
Please vent!! :)

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Grzegorz_
  May 30, 07, 13:18  #2

Quoting: Patrycja19
but our gas prices keep going up..


It's about 1/3 of the price in EU.

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BubbaWoo
  May 30, 07, 15:04  #3

yeah... i watched the prices fluctuate whilst on my road trip... but america has it cheap when it comes to motoring... it cost the same # in $ to fill my big-mobile as it does in £ to fill my coupe over here... dang dawg, thats boo'shee'...

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hello ♦ GOLD MEMBER
  May 30, 07, 15:14  #4

Some people say that in the US gas prices are still "cheap" compared to Europe.

That may relatively be true - but how many miles on average an European person does compared to a person from the US? I think people from Europe do a lot less miles annually compared to those from the US or Canada.

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szarlotka ♦ GOLD MEMBER
  May 30, 07, 15:17  #5

Quoting: Patrycja19
but our gas prices keep going up..


There are a number of reasons why even US gas prices are increasing at present. Political instability in Iraq and Nigeria (production is down by over 600,000 barrels a day because of the wave of kidnappings and the success of the local insurgents in Nigeria). Also many US refineries are having extended maintenance and shut downs. There are a lot of tankers being diverted from Holland as I write to replenish US stocks. Bottom line is there is a supply shortage. Bad news is we in the UK will be paying over £1 a litre very soon.

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clunkshift
  May 31, 07, 01:39  #6

Quoting: Patrycja19
what is the gas prices like in poland? are you suffering along with us?
what about the UK ???

The UK is bad because of high taxes (Spanish diesel is almost 50% less) but Poland is nearly as expensive as the UK.
I agree with Szarlotka’s view on current situation and the bad news is that it won’t improve for gasoline.
US refineries have been holding back on low sulphur fuel for a number of reasons but they are now catching up and adding extra hydrotreaters etc by extending regular shutdowns or cutting output to add new plant – so the production costs have risen.
For many reasons, not least increasing competition, market prices of crude have risen; increasing material costs.
Oil producers are now refining more light crude rather than exporting it, forcing net importers to buy refined products which are much more expensive, or high sulphur crudes which require more refining.
You can make gasoline from coal but it’s not a cheap option, so will only happen when gas prices make it worthwhile. Gas rich countries use gas-to-liquid technology, but that is expensive too.

Oh - please don't invade Venezuela - or Canada it will only cause trouble :)

The bottom line is we all need to use less gas, which is why Europe uses far more diesel than the US – an 85 cu in diesel car has four times the gas mileage of a 300 cu in V8 on gas

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beckski
  Jun 20, 07, 22:13  #7

Quoting: Patrycja19
but our gas prices keep going up..


Hi Patrycja,

I was really surprised to see the price finally go down this week in S. California. The average price is now a little below the $3.00 per gallon mark.

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Patrycja19
  Jun 20, 07, 22:30  #8

Quoting: beckski
I was really surprised to see the price finally go down this week in S. California. The average price is now a little below the $3.00 per gallon mark.


mine today was between 3.10-3.04$ a gallon..

last week it was under 3.00$ in some places in Michigan..

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krysia
  Jun 20, 07, 22:38  #9

Central Wisconsin is $3.09, Milwaukee was $2.99

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shopgirl
  Jun 20, 07, 22:40  #10

Flagstaff, AZ 3.19 today :(

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sledz
  Jun 20, 07, 23:30  #11

$3.55 in the windy city

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Ranj
Edited by: Ranj  Jun 21, 07, 01:14  #12

$2.84 in Indy.....Didn't realize that most of our oil comes from Canada.

Crude Oil and Total Petroleum Imports Top 15 Countries
April 2007 Import Highlights: Released on June 11, 2007
Preliminary monthly data on the origins of crude oil imports in April 2007 has been released and it shows that three countries have each exported more than 1.40 million barrels per day to the United States. Including those countries, a total of four countries exported over 1.00 million barrels per day of crude oil to the United States (see table below). The top five exporting countries accounted for 68 percent of United States crude oil imports in March while the top ten sources accounted for approximately 88 percent of all U.S. crude oil imports. The top sources of US crude oil imports for April were Canada (1.909 million barrels per day), Mexico (1.460 million barrels per day), Saudi Arabia (1.458 million barrels per day), Venezuela (1.182 million barrels per day), and Nigeria (0.891 million barrels per day). The rest of the top ten sources, in order, were Iraq (0.562 million barrels per day), Algeria (0.530 million barrels per day), Angola (0.514 million barrels per day), Russia (0.269 million barrels per day), and Brazil (0.175 million barrels per day). Total crude oil imports averaged 10.181 million barrels per day in April, which is a decrease of 0.167 million barrels per day from March 2007.

Canada remained the largest exporter of total petroleum in April, exporting 2.475 million barrels per day to the United States, which was an increase from last month (2.305 thousand barrels per day). The second largest exporter of total petroleum was Mexico with 1.572 million barrels per day.

Crude Oil Imports (Top 15 Countries)
(Thousand Barrels per Day)
Country Apr-07 Mar-07 YTD 2007 Apr-06 Jan - Apr 2006

---------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------

CANADA 1,909 1,780 1,846 1,710 1,726
MEXICO 1,460 1,621 1,471 1,601 1,692
SAUDI ARABIA 1,458 1,216 1,358 1,582 1,413
VENEZUELA 1,182 1,036 1,070 1,171 1,190
NIGERIA 891 1,290 1,089 1,022 1,149
IRAQ 562 523 488 531 498
ALGERIA 530 501 495 256 235
ANGOLA 514 696 556 389 446
RUSSIA 269 193 137 0 19
BRAZIL 175 209 174 111 114
ECUADOR 159 191 200 312 289
CONGO (BRAZZAVILLE) 138 79 78 33 16
KUWAIT 126 288 187 225 139
UNITED KINGDOM 119 77 97 169 108
GABON 92 48 60 33 53

Total Imports of Petroleum (Top 15 Countries)
(Thousand Barrels per Day)
Country Apr-07 Mar-07 YTD 2007 Apr-06 Jan - Apr 2006

---------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------

CANADA 2,475 2,305 2,424 2,238 2,266
MEXICO 1,572 1,749 1,601 1,750 1,805
SAUDI ARABIA 1,485 1,244 1,378 1,595 1,443
VENEZUELA 1,412 1,285 1,311 1,393 1,485
NIGERIA 948 1,346 1,135 1,098 1,211
ALGERIA 798 727 718 543 528
IRAQ 562 523 488 531 498
RUSSIA 547 455 400 218 239
ANGOLA 526 708 571 419 463
UNITED KINGDOM 386 292 285 315 252
VIRGIN ISLANDS 322 349 353 239 283
BRAZIL 246 234 222 169 167
NORWAY 198 164 150 206 205
KOREA, SOUTH 184 164 136 106 65
ECUADOR 159 191 202 319 295

Note: The data in the tables above exclude oil imports into the U.S. territories.

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clunkshift
  Jun 21, 07, 01:47  #13

Comparative fuel prices in April 2007 - Source Automobile Association

Price per litre in Euros
Country Gasoline / Diesel
Austria 1.06 / 0.97
Belgium 1.36 / 1.07
Finland 1.29 / 0.99
Germany 1.32 / 1.13
Greece 0.96 / 0.93
Netherlands 1.47 / 1.08
Italy 1.27 / 1.18
Luxembourg 1.13 / 0.90
Spain 1.01 / 0.93
France 1.27 / 1.06
Ireland 1.11 / 1.07
Portugal 1.30 / 1.04
Sweden 1.33 / 1.20
Estonia 0.89 / 0.87
Latvia 0.98 / 0.93
Lithuania 0.92 / 0.87
Slovakia 1.16 / 1.15
Switzerland 1.06 / 1.09
United Kingdom 1.38 / 1.42
United States 0.58 / 0.58

Norway 1.49 / 1.37
Poland 1.16 / 1.01
Hungary 1.16 / 1.10
Czech Republic 1.05 / 1.02
Denmark 1.42 / 1.21

When you read the list, bear in mind that unlike the US, Norway is a net exporter of oil products!

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TheKruk
Edited by: TheKruk  Jun 21, 07, 03:03  #14

I usually tell my friends in America when they complain about the price of fuel what they pay here and that shuts them up pretty quick. yeah it sucks but Americans need to drive smaller cars like in europe. Los Angeles is the worst there are millions of Sport utility Vehicles with one person in them, and they never go off-roading in them.
The States lags so far behind europe as far as conservation we can't even see the exhaust. There are a few who have converted to bio-diesel. And electris or hybrids are expensive and the waiting list for a new one is very long. Its obvious the oil industry controls America. its amazing how backward such a developed country can be.

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krysia
Edited by: krysia  Jun 21, 07, 07:50  #15

Quoting: TheKruk
yeah it sucks but Americans need to drive smaller cars like in europe.

They wouldn't fit in them

In the states you need a car because the distances are far, while in Europe you can hop on the bus, tramway, train, metro.
Quoting: TheKruk
its amazing how backward such a developed country can be.


All vehicles in the US are equiped with emission control catalytic converters, not seen much in Europe.

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peterweg
Edited by: peterweg  Jun 21, 07, 09:22  #16

Quoting: clunkshift
When you read the list, bear in mind that unlike the US, Norway is a net exporter of oil products!


So, just about, is the UK.

The prices are to keep consumption down and efficiency up. The US ignored the oil shock of 1973 and allowed sprawling urbanisation. The UK aimed for oil efficiency and has built a tax buffer to absorb future price rises. Its taxation as a defensive weapon and driver of social change

Quoting: krysia
All vehicles in the US are equiped with emission control catalytic converters, not seen much in Europe.



Bollocks, all EU cars have Cats and have done for many years.

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nauczyciel
Edited by: nauczyciel  Jun 21, 07, 12:12  #17

how nice of you to yell at the retailer. :( a class act. He has no choice on what the giant corps sell the product for. he makes a few cents on each gallon/liter. a few cents. 1-3. out of which he must pay his staff, rent, all costs related to the business.


and to think that oil came from dinosaurs is ridiculous.

it makes me furious when ppl gladly pay $4-5 for a 300-500ml cup of coffee or $3-4 for a gallon of milk,

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  Jun 21, 07, 13:53  #18

Here in NY, average gas price is about 3.30 i would say for the regular of course.

My ride is 8 cylinder so you already know i'm suffering big time.But i got a dealer who gets me discount fortunately,he lets me fill up for 75% of the price.He should really be filling up for half the price, but its his and its his choice so he only fills up for me for 75% which is way better then what everybody else pays.

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jnowiski
  Jun 21, 07, 13:57  #19

it's around $2.80-$2.86 here.

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Amathyst
Edited by: Amathyst  Jun 21, 07, 14:01  #20

Well in the uk its about £1.90 for unleaded

which at current exchange = about $3.90

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  Jun 21, 07, 14:06  #21

^^ Huge difference between me and you.

Its relatively low as well in New Jersey, something like 2.70 or so which makes you wonder for someone like me who lives in NY, is it worth going in jersey to fill up the tank because its so much cheaper?But then by the time you come back 1/4 would be wasted.So at the end, it does not really worth doing that,unless you happen to be heading towards NJ, than yes it is worth filling up for much cheaper price.

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jnowiski
  Jun 21, 07, 14:10  #22

maybe you could bring a gas can and fill up a bunch! haha. no, i don't think i'd be worth it unless you were travelling there or through there.

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  Jun 21, 07, 14:29  #23

Yea i thought about that.I said i should bring a huge can that can fill up 200 gallons or something and i be set for one good month.But its a lot of headache and stuff :P

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Shawn_H
  Jun 21, 07, 17:23  #24

$1.03 / L near Toronto this evening.

It seems that EVERY gas station on the way home sells at exactly the SAME price ALL DAY. Before Katrina hit the price of gas would be 10 - 12 cents per litre more expensive in the morning and drop by 10 pm to the lowest level of the day. Back then, people would yell "COLLUSION!!!", governments would look at it (and based on the taxes they collect) would say "no collusion". Now the gas stations don't dare drop it below the $1.01 mark... What changed? Why the "stability" price compared to before Katrina.

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JumpinJuniper
  Feb 3, 08, 23:53  #25

Im suprised Canada isnt more independent w/ oil, meaning lower costs. Didnt you guys discover an oil vein spanning 2/3rds the north country? able to supply N. America for several hundred years?

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Zgubiony
  Feb 4, 08, 08:45  #26

2.77 in NJ now..some places

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szarlotka ♦ GOLD MEMBER
  Feb 4, 08, 08:50  #27

Zgubiony wrote:
2.77 in NJ now..some places


£1.08 a litre over here in rip off Britain. Mind you that's cheaper than mineral water in most restaurants

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z_darius
  Feb 4, 08, 10:11  #28

$0.97/liter in Niagara but some people still go to the US to fill'er up. A $75 tank of gas in Niagara will cost about $45 just across the border. Silly feeling to think that gas across the border is actually Canadian and we pay more for it here.

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plk123
  Feb 4, 08, 10:39  #29

~$3/GAL and we're on a pipeline from galveston so our gas is from other sources the canada.

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  Feb 4, 08, 14:02  #30

2.779 in Hackettstown, NJ this morning and 2.759 in Mt. Arlington, NJ

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