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espana
  Jul 26, 07, 13:43  #121

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You change your religion and also, you should change your name. As long as I know Jaroslav is a pure Slavic name and has nothing to do with Muslim culture.

well said!!!!!

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marcio228 [Guest]
  Jul 28, 07, 18:09  #122

[i][/i] i am myself gay,once i was marriad man,.i had the oportunitt to have my onw son.wich i am very proud of it.and i am sure that ,my onw son as well will be very proud to have a father like me.because the education witch i trying to give to my son it's very special in did.if you stop to think about it the wolrd is gay in atual times.don't you think so?so go for it have a fun,try your best to anchive it if you wische so.one thing for sure ....you will never regret about it.for the oposite.it will make your self more completede. because i am gay,father and very,very praud of it.xxxxxxxmarcio brazil

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marcio228 [Guest]
  Jul 29, 07, 08:28  #123

quote;to unt.....how humanitary are you.you leaving in a world very gay....u probally are one of as.but yourself don't want to accept yourself as a gay person.get a life.... and becarfull because if you have a child in the futer.wich i doubt about. ....you my need swalow you onw world's wich you conden all the gay peaple.i would definetelly be shame of bean homofobic , i rather bean gay than homofobic..............get a life dear....

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jaze2 [Guest]
  Dec 1, 07, 08:29  #124

Dear friend,
I am greetings to you in the name of our lord and savoiur.Aman.i am Daniel come from Ghana and i am 23 year.I want to be your good friend.Hoping to hear from you as sson as possible.

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szkotja2007
  Dec 1, 07, 08:33  #125

Quoting: jaze2
I am greetings to you in the name of our lord and savoiur

I speak with the Big Man every day and he says wee Danny fae Ghanas intae it big time. Ye clatty wee nyaff.

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katarinacorona [Guest]
  Jan 19, 08, 14:46  #126

i am a 25 year old attractive blonde I am single I have one beautiful daughter who now 4 years old and has just started school fulltime. I love my daughter very much so she has a modeling carear already and has appered in next caterloge and matalan so far. I want to make a futer for my daughter. AT the moment i am unemployed but i attend colledge. I am wanting to be a surrogate so hopefully i can give someboy the pleasure i have with myne I am not planning any children of my own as i feel one is enough for me. I would happly be a surragate to anybody who is desparate have a child of there own. I live in sheffield if you want to make an arrangement to meat up to discuse future for support and future plans
[ps sorry i carnt spell or use spell check im rubbish on computers}

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katarinacorona [Guest]
  Jan 19, 08, 15:02  #127

to all you homofobies if your not gay you must be thinking about it other wize you wouldnt be on this site. Y dont you consentrate on your own boring life and stay out of other people buisnes. Jeliousy is not a good look. open your mind open your heart and have fun for once in your life

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NumberOne
  Jan 26, 08, 23:34  #128

katarinacorona wrote:
Jeliousy is not a good look

who is jelious?

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g888 [Guest]
  Jan 29, 08, 11:15  #129

To all you who say gay couples shouldn't adopt - how would you feel if I said Polish people shouldn't adopt?

So far on this forum gays have been described as "not mentally healthy" (which they are perfectly entitled to think, just as I am entitled to think that Poles are not mentally healthy), homosexuality as "against nature" and therefore wrong (by this logic we should stop curing diseases as this would be going "against nature"), and finally one said "i wish all the Gay DIE". Lovely.

And to those who are obsessed with what gay men do and don't do in bed - nobody asked you to think about it, you conjured up those mental images all on your own. Makes you wonder what is going in *your* head. I don't find the idea of old people having sex particularly appealing however that doesn't mean I go around telling them it's disgusting or repulsive and that they should stop. It's none of your business what consenting adults do in the privacy of their home.

And I assume heterosexual couples don't invite their children to watch them having sex, so why would homosexual couples?

I understand that children need both a male and female role model however I don't think that means we should stop gays adopting any more than we should confiscate children from single parents - there are multiple ways to have a positive male/female role model who isn't necessarily a parent.

Just because gay couples can't have their own biological children doesn't make them unfit for parenthood - or do you think infertile couples shouldn't be allowed to adopt either?

The bigotry and prejudice on this forum is appalling.

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hello
Edited by: hello  Jan 29, 08, 11:18  #130

g888 wrote:
To all you who say gay couples shouldn't adopt - how would you feel if I said Polish people shouldn't adopt?

Why do you compare apples to oranges? The question is about GAY couples and you try to manipulate it to get your point by comparing gay couples with "ALL POLISH PEOPLE". Compare UK gay couples to Polish gay couples.

Just because gay couples can't have their own biological children doesn't make them unfit for parenthood - or do you think infertile couples shouldn't be allowed to adopt either?

So why healthy and fertile gay couples cannot have their own biological children? The nature - that have been working for billions of years on this planet - has decided it is not possible and no good for the human population.

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Davey
  Jan 29, 08, 11:23  #131

krysia wrote:
they can raise more gays

Yes but heterosexuals raise gay kids, so how would it be rational to conclude that gay couples would just raise more gay kids?

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g888 [Guest]
  Jan 29, 08, 11:47  #132

hello wrote:
g888 wrote:
To all you who say gay couples shouldn't adopt - how would you feel if I said Polish people shouldn't adopt?

Why do you compare apples to oranges? The question is about GAY couples and you try to manipulate it to get your point by comparing gay couples with "ALL POLISH PEOPLE". Compare UK gay couples to Polish gay couples.


It's not apples and oranges - you seem to want to deliberately exclude an entire segment of the population from adopting. I agree I should have said "how would you feel if I said Polish couples shouldn't adopt?". Maybe you also think black couples should never be allowed to adopt? Or Jewish couples? Or Catholic couples?

hello wrote:
g888 wrote:
Just because gay couples can't have their own biological children doesn't make them unfit for parenthood - or do you think infertile couples shouldn't be allowed to adopt either?

So why healthy and fertile gay couples cannot have their own biological children? The nature - that have been working for billions of years on this planet - has decided it is not possible and no good for the human population.


I wasn't talking about gay couples conceiving biological children, I was talking about them adopting children. Do you really think adoption should be reserved for only those who are able to have biological children of their own? Do you not think this would be rather limiting in terms of the number of adoptive parents as well as rather difficult to enforce?

Do you think that a drug-addicted, alcoholic single mother who keeps popping out kids and doesn't really care about them is better for a child than a respectable gay couple who want children so much that they are willing to go through the difficult process of adoption to get them?

This should be about what's best for the children. I don't think excluding people just because they are unable to conceive naturally (or whatever other prejudice you may care to throw at gay people) is a very intelligent way of looking at it.

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hello
Edited by: hello  Jan 29, 08, 12:04  #133

You can compare being gay to being addicted to alcohol. Gays are addicted to their own sex, alcoholics are addicted to alcohol. Gays hang out in gay communities, alcoholics hang out with other people who like binge drinking. Would any of these communities be good for the child? I don't think so. That's why they won't allow alcohol-addicts to adopt children and they should not allow gay couples adopt children.

Any form of addiction is not good for a child.

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Davey
  Jan 29, 08, 12:10  #134

hello wrote:
Gays hang out in gay communities


That's like saying all blacks hangout in the ghetto....

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g888 [Guest]
  Jan 29, 08, 12:10  #135

hello wrote:
You can compare being gay to being addicted to alcohol. Gays are addicted to their own sex, alcoholics are addicted to alcohol. Gays hang out in gay communities, alcoholics hang out with other people who like binge drinking. Would any of these communities be good for the child? I don't think so. That's why they won't allow alcohol-addicts to adopt children and they should not allow gay couples adopt children.


Just like straights are addicted to the opposite sex? I could also say straights hang out in straight communities - how many non-straight people do you know?

Are people who go to church addicted to religion? Is the catholic community really good for children? You seem to have no real argument here other than your prejudice against gays.

You're clutching at straws and ignoring the main points of my argument.

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hello
  Jan 29, 08, 12:36  #136

Ignoring the main points? OK, my main point is - "what if all our children become gays"? You would obviously have nothing against children you raise to be gays, what if all parents in the world feel the same? How much longer the human population would exist? You want to take children from "the world of the straights" - what can you give in return?

What do you as gays have to offer to the human kind other than refined sexual pleasures?

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Davey
  Jan 29, 08, 12:43  #137

hello wrote:
"what if all our children become gays"?

Again, gay people don't raise gay children, heterosexual couples raise gay children, there is not one gay person I know that has gay parents.

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g888 [Guest]
  Jan 29, 08, 12:53  #138

Just because a gay couple raise a child doesn't make the child gay any more than a straight couple raising a child makes him/her straight. You don't turn someone gay, some people just are.

If all parents in the world accepted their gay children that would be a great step forward for tolerance. Do you really honestly believe that letting gay couples adopt means the world will be taken over by homosexuals?

Homosexuality has always existed in the human race and probably always will, just as heterosexuality has and always will. Surely if it was so bad for the human race it would have been eliminated by natural selection by now?

And if you really think the sum total of your contribution to human kind is defined by the number of children you bear then I feel sorry for you. And what is so wrong with 'refined sexual pleasures'?

And what makes you assume I'm gay?

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southern
  Jan 29, 08, 12:54  #139

Davey wrote:
there is not one gay person I know that has gay parents.


They knew what to expect.

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NumberOne
  Jan 29, 08, 13:01  #140

Davey wrote:
there is not one gay person I know that has gay parents.


check the statistics....

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Davey
  Jan 29, 08, 13:02  #141

NumberOne wrote:
check the statistics....


I don't need any statistics, in the area I live, there is not a single gay person with gay parents....and out of the gay couples I know with children, their children are all straight.

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hello
Edited by: hello  Jan 29, 08, 13:03  #142

The other problem with gays is that they are "open" to any form of "experiments" and radical behaviors. I estimate 9 in 10 gays would have nothing against human cloning because their minds and bodies are very "open" and "democratic" to all forms of ideological freedoms and social deviant experiments.

So it's not only about gays homosexuality, it's their way of life and thinking that is dangerous to the human kind in general. Even if a gay couple doesn't necessarily raise gay children, they WILL raise a child that has impaired views on important social matters.

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southern
  Jan 29, 08, 13:03  #143

This is a valuable argument for homos.At least kids bred by such families do not have the danger to become gays.

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NumberOne
  Jan 29, 08, 13:13  #144

Davey wrote:
I don't need any statistics


Thats why you are not a politician and don't make any important decisions...

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g888 [Guest]
  Jan 29, 08, 13:37  #145

hello wrote:
The other problem with gays is that they are "open" to any form of "experiments" and radical behaviors. I estimate 9 in 10 gays would have nothing against human cloning because their minds and bodies are very "open" and "democratic" to all forms of ideological freedoms and social deviant experiments.


Do you even know 10 gay people? What on earth are you basing this on? Do you even know one gay person? You're ignoring all of my arguments and making up numbers.

hello wrote:
So it's not only about gays homosexuality, it's their way of life and thinking that is dangerous to the human kind in general. Even if a gay couple doesn't necessarily raise gay children, they WILL raise a child that has impaired views on important social matters.


So do you concede that their sexuality has nothing to do with their ability to raise a child, or are you just ignoring that point because you can't refute it?

Who gets to decide on what constitutes "impaired views"? You? Are you going to monitor all adoptions from now on and make sure any prospective parents don't disagree with your world view on "important social matters"?

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lesser
Edited by: lesser  Jan 29, 08, 15:21  #146

What a depressing topic, Europe has big troubles... I have always claiming that the Muslims are not the worst threat to Europe. Degeneration from inside is.

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