Gay people? Should they be allowed to marry?

You are calling people names before you heard the argument. Is that rational?

Take taxes for instance.

Taxes pay for various things available to the public without the need of per user fees. For instance sidewalks in cities, the military, the police service, fire departments, to name just a few. In many jurisdictions taxes are lower for married couples. The more married couples the less taxes paid to the collective coffer, but the cost of the above mentioned utilities and services remains unchanged. Or consider health coverage for a family. Medicare? The prices and fees depend on whether the individual is single or a part of family.

Things like adoptions. If gays are married and considered exactly as any other couple then heterosexual people would have even more problems adopting children as there would be more competition.

Would the difference be substantial on a per capita basis? I don't think so, but it would influence all in some way, which is contrary to what you wrote.


This is a silly idea.
Nuclear radiation is known to have adverse effects, some of which are not fully understood. Additional nuclear explosions may lead to some gene mutations, and godknows if those would be mutations leading to homosexuality ;)

I work in Radioation oncology and you don't need a radioactive device to emit radiation, you can do this safely with a linea accelerator..... then when everything is irradiated just switch it off, they'll be no evidence and no radiation present after.....

A happy ending !

That's true.


However, I don't know of any religion that condones mass murder, not of any of the five major religions. I think your understanding of the Christian Golden Rule is a bit off, perhaps your Bible is misprinted. See mine says that Jesus said, "Love thy neighbor," maybe yours says Jesus said "We should nuke the world's gays." That's a misprint, I'd try to return that book as soon as possible.

We could put it down to death by misadventure !

an accident !

Or just death by friendly fire !

I beleive all those are acceptable ...... in the world today !

its not like we're wiping out a race or anything, just a group of wierdo's

No I am stating that coming to conclusions without premises is irrational that is it! I call people names to **** them off names like "moron, garbage etc"



IF u support killing gays then wat do u do in oncology? Technician? It disgusts me that any1 in the healthcare field could b so full of hate! Gays are weirdos? Almost every gay i know is just as normal if not more normal than heterosexuals!

Go fight in a bar or something where you can get hurt so you don't do it so easily next time.

That it is, but I was hoping that the very statement I made would be sufficient to realize there was some truth to it. It's not like you should be unaware about many ramifications of a social contract called marriage. As I remember you are 19 and a proud college student. Noblesse oblige.


If somebody is more normal than normal, is such a person still normal?

i doubt it very much, there is something wrong in their gene's that make them think how they think, man on man - that's just wrong !

R u Gay ? Hey the pope doesn't like gays either, and look at where he stands in the rankings of the church.



Yep thats why we waste our time and money trying to heal gays that are HIV+ , if i beleived in god i'd say he's go a sick sense of humour, unleasing a virus as powerful as aids onto the homosexual and drug abusing society ! Let them suffer !

No god is a sick bastard! U don't treat people with aids ur not a doctor or a nurse! I doubt u even have a high school education. They wouldn't b stupid enough to say something like aids is punishing gays or treating them is a waste! Go tell this child that god is punishing him! http://www.avert.org/aids-photo-gallery.php?photo_id=620&gallery_id=2 a little kid who had no choice in the matter!
Or this kid tell him god is punishing him! http://www.avert.org/aids-photo-gallery.php?photo_id=432&gallery_id=3

or tell this little girl that god has to punish people so badly he will make innocents suffer just to do it!

http://www.avert.org/aids-photo-gallery.php?photo_id=427&gallery_id=3

If u believe aids is a punishment for gays u are a sadist! If there is a hell u will be in it!

To try to reach you, bajka, I'm going to come down to your stereotypical level. If we kill all the gays, who will run the antique shops, who will interior design our homes, who will run the flower shops, and hair salons? Think of the economy, we depend on gays and all the money they spend on Cher records and eyebrow teezers.

GAy men earn way more than straight men! Because their money doesn't go to accident condom break babies! http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0254/is_n4_v54/ai_17599602
http://randythomas.org/2008/01/14/median-income-for-gay-identified-hou seholds/
http://www.advocate.com/news_detail_ektid48165.asp
children and location are the main factors here. there r more gays in cities where incomes are higher because cities tend to be more accepting of gays and have a better gay scene!

You sir, are a very deranged. disturbed and dangerous man. It should be pssbl to have you brought to court for remarks like that. In fact, the Gay Rights Movement should take notice of this and find out who you are through your IP address and have you arrested or at least sue you.

M-G

What, you mean Percy and Keith from the pet grooming shop are.........gay, Noooooo!



Women ! maybe...... i don't know - what about monkey's we could train them, would be cheaper..... !

I think it is ok for gay people to marry, marriage is for love, for people who want to spend the rest of theyre lives together. i dont see how love is different for man and woman , and two men or two women.

Yeah, i'm scared now......

You see, if you live in a country where the government is against homosexuality to a degree that they will not let them in, or even expel them if found to be gay...... its OK.

So do you best with your gay rights and sh*t and we'll see where it ends.

MareGaea, you sir are a bafoon!

And my thoughts are you are even more dangerous and deranged for promoting homosexuality.......

Last i heard it was still a free world and no genuine legal authority would pull me up on my remarks, i condemn homosexuality as much as the Pope does

Nothing says tolerance and rational understanding like "I'd rather be served by a trained monkey than a human being." Bravo, bajka. I hope for your sake that some of your comments have been made tongue in cheek.

Of course, somethings and ideas are impossible to sell.

Also, its irrelevant what my profession is and how i perform my work on a professional level - my comments are my own and do not interfere with my commitment to my work.

My thoughts and the legality of them are 2 different concepts which cannot cross, if i want to express my feeling towards homosexuals then i will, doesn't mean i will follow them through and break the laws of society.

Also as questioned i do have an education higher than high school, a university degree so those who speculated wrongly earlier can go and figure !

Again it was a case of they think they know someone when they don't.

Well said, those who stand for homosexual agenda as usual struggling with arguments other than empty slogans about some "equality".

Your right I apologize I was in a bad mood. Of course you can disagree.

YEP!

And they need the same legal rights in order to make medical decisions (like giving consent for surgery on behalf of the spouse), transfer property on behalf of the other spouse, etc. as straight couples. That really what the issue is about....legal benefits that marriage provides. Couples have (and have had for years) "commitment ceremonies" to celebrate a bond between two people who are dedicating themselves to spending a life together.

:)

Actually,there was a story in the Birmingham times or sth years ago,about a gay man that donated a sperm to his 2 lesbian friends.

Hell yah! Gay rights!

No your mouth. Where do you think they get the sperm from?
I see you don't really know where sperm comes from poor kid. well son when your old enough you'll find out. Heres a hint: you know that feeling you get "down There" Mr. Bajka ? You know when you hear Elton John or Liza Minelli, well that is called sexual arousal, and later when you play with your little Bajeczka white stuff will come out. It works the same for gay men or straight men. Go ask your Daddy if you're still confused.

Gays should go back into their closets and leave their personal lives locked up. Gay lifestyle should not become a "normal" thing, because it's not. It is against nature and those type of people are sick. Gays are trying to get into the school systems promoting books and information to young minds that it's OK to have two fathers or two mothers and then the society grows into believing it's normal behaviour, which it's not. Some gays may be good friends, but their lifestyle shouldn't be promoted to become normal. I don't want them to teach gay lifestyle in school. Not only is that morally wrong but unnecessary gays promoting themselves.
I agree with sledz. All you here seem to be protecting the gays yet you are racists towards other countries.

hmmmmm, they used to burn witches at the stake........since then you don't hear of many witches practicing their black art.

I'm not saying its right to burn gays at the stake, but if you are either a witch or a gay in Saudi you get a good lashing for practicing that sort of stuff in public !

Go figure !

and as for TheKruk, you sad little muppet, we're really not impressed with your sexual knowledge.......did you have a "mass debate" with some collegues before you reached this conclusion !

I am definitively not promoting homosexuality, because there is nothing to promote. I just believe in personal freedom and the possibility for everybody to be the way they want to be. I guess you don't like personal freedom and I also guess you loved it being under communist rule as there was no personal freedom there. Maybe you could move to Belarussia?

And Krysia: your posting dissappoints me a bit. I always thought you were smart and bright. I've never been racist to anybody in my entire life. That would not adhere to my believe in personal freedom. Yet you promote the surpression of an entire group of ppl worldwide. You act like it's some sort of evil scheme for world domination, while these ppl just want to have the right to be what they are. And in the society-classes in school it would definitively be a good idea to teach the kids that there is also something like homosexuality. It gives the kids an understanding and an appreciation of it being a part of society. What I never understood was the fact that a lot of ppl here seem to think that when you teach kids about homosexuality they automatically become gay. That is the biggest rubbish I have ever heard and I would laugh about it if it wasn't such a pathetic thought. The only thing that will change after the kids have been thaught about homosexuality is that there will be less violence towards gay ppl. And I personally think that any reduction of violence is a superior thing.

M-G

you obviously don't get it......its not natural and not normal and not functional.......

Sex is a reproductive thing, not a sleezy ram it up your boyfriends ar*e thing !

Get real or get lost !



you got it, and she is smart and bright

lol... Become normal or f. out you stupid faggot.

Spoken by a true Dutchman.