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Polish Romani (gypsy) surnames

lecount1973     Oct 31, 2009, 05:00pm  #1

I'm curious as to whether anyone has a list or knows of any common Gypsy or Romani surnames from Poland, specifically Begitka Carpathian Roma. Thank you for any information.


lecount1973     Edited by: Moderator  Oct 31, 2009, 08:55pm  #2

I'm curious as to whether anyone has a list or knows of any common Gypsy or Romani surnames from Poland, specifically Bergitka Carpathian Roma. Thank you for any information.

no need to bump the post.


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  ♂   Oct 31, 2009, 09:42pm  #3

Unfortunately, Gypsy onomastics is not my speciality, but I thinjk it’s safe to say that like Jews, many Gypsies picked up names from the countries they lived in. Bergitka Roma from the Carpathian Mts tended to have names of Hungarian origin such as Gabor or highlander names (Dunka, Mirga, Siwak). Lowland Gypsies tended to have Polish names including Majewski, Pawłowski and Paczkowski. The Kełderasza Gypsies (from the Romanian word caldarar for pot-maker) produced Gypsy kings in the between-the-wars period including Janusz Kwiek. One of the best-known Polish Gypsy poets was Jerzy Ficowski (1942-2006).

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  ♀   Nov 1, 2009, 12:47pm  #4

Polonius3:
One of the best-known Polish Gypsy poets was Jerzy Ficowski (1942-2006).

Not quite right:

Jerzy Ficowski (October 4, 1924, Warsaw - May 9, 2006, Warsaw) was a Polish poet, writer and translator (from Yiddish, Russian and Romani). (Wikipedia)

He discovered and translated into Polish the poetry of Papusza, a Gypsy poetess, who was subsequently shunned and exiled by other Roma for "revealing secrets to the Gajos". But AFAIK, he was not of Romani extraction himself.

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  ♂   Nov 1, 2009, 05:29pm  #5

Thanks for settign the record straight.

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  ♀   Feb 14, 2010, 03:53pm  #6

I am pretty sure my ancestors were Polish Roma. Their name was Kallop or Kallap which I am told is Hungarian. They were Polish-speaking, and my mtDNA is identified with Polish Romani population. Any guesses whether this surname could be Polish Romani?

Crystalsh     Mar 22, 2010, 02:45pm  #7

Another Romani-Polish surname question-- did the Romani combine their words with polish suffix endings to create an assimilated surname? The "trin" in the surname Trinowski appears to have no other etymology in any language other than the Romani word for "three". There seems not to be a location called "Trinow" in Poland, though there is a "Trino" in Italy. There was one reference online that someone posted that their Polish name was "Trojanowski" and was changed to "Trinowski" in the US. Thanks in advance for any linguistic possibilities for this.

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  ♂   Mar 22, 2010, 10:00pm  #8

Polish (and not only Polish) immigrants coming to the US often shortened theri names. Eg Kowal from Kowalewicz, Kolodziej (possibly respelt Kolojay) from Kołodziejczak, etc. It is not inconceivable that some Roma might have done the same, but I don't believe that to be a uniquely Roma tendency.

Crystalsh     Mar 23, 2010, 04:32pm  #9

Do you have any suggestion then regarding this combination of "trin" + "owski" or "trinow" + "ski". Does it appear to be name originating in Poland?
Thanks, Polonius3 for all your knowledge and help!

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  ♂   May 8, 2010, 11:33pm  #10

my last name is Wajda which in Polish is "leader of the Gypsies" does this mean i have Gypsy ancestors?

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  ♂   May 9, 2010, 07:02pm  #11

WAJDA: traceable to one of 2 different sources: 1) Polish phonetic spelling of the German word Weide (meadow); 2) leader of the Walachian (Romanian) shepherds. You may be confusing Romani (Gipsies) with Romanians, becasue the similarity is coincidental.

travelop     May 9, 2010, 07:17pm  #12

is name wojdolowicz gypsy name

noona     May 15, 2010, 05:54pm  #13

Has anyone heard of the name Stepovikov or Eustratova/Elestratova [spelling??]? My father was from Rowno, Vohlyn region Ukraine. His family had to leave their country after WWII and go to Australia. His mother used to refer to herself as a wonderer. Am trying to start research into family history. Thanks.

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  ♂   Sep 17, 2011, 06:53pm  #14

Try these web sites
stowarzyszenie.romowie.net/ (only Polish I'm afraid)
romowie.com (Polish English Roma)



Janusz Przeniczny UK

Sukowicz     Nov 25, 2011, 03:12pm  #15

czigany or cziganetski is describe as Gypsy in POLISH language regions

Georgewicz     Feb 17, 2012, 06:21pm  #16

Is the name Georgewicz of gypsy origin?

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  ♀   May 16, 2012, 09:18pm  #17

Jurczyk was my great grand mothers name. My great Aunt told me this name & then got frustrated when I further inquired. I have found out over the years my great grandmother had children and a family in Poland, she left them and started a new family with my great grandfather (Moski, also from Poland) here in the United States. Any help would be much appreciated =)

suzbednarz     Mar 22, 2013, 03:45pm  #18

My father father's was named Ludwig Jurczyk. I recently obtained records from Holocaust Survivors Museum. Would like to converse with others with the name Jurczyk in their family. Ludwig was born in Krosno, Poland in 1911.

princessshashi     Apr 2, 2013, 09:53pm  #19

Marya, and Anna Jurczyk are the names I know..
Marya (my great grandmother) & her younger sister Anna came to America in 1906 from Zaton at ages 16 & 9. They are on the Ellis Island passenger records. They departed from Hamburg. When they arrived in America they resided in the state of Massachusetts.
Until my great grandmother met my great grandfather Stanley Moski (1892 - 1969). Also Polish. He joined the army here and the story is "they" couldn't pronounce his last name so he changed it to Moski. Nobody knows what the original last name was. Or if it was even close to Moski...unfortunately.
There is another story that my great grandmother had a family in Poland that she left..came to America remarried & started another family. I'm not sure if this is true,...as my great grandmother was only 16 when she arrived in America..Its doubtful she had children and a husband at that age?

candacechorney     Apr 10, 2013, 04:13am  #20

¦urahov (surharob) was my grandmothers maiden name, i was told everythi g but the truth about my grandmother . I do know at a young age she got married to a chorney and was horribly shunned by his family to the point of them actually not.letting her stay in.the family homestead he made her live in hot at the end of the property and not let her know if child in the home and without feed them to see the point where the child died of starvation. She never spoke of her father or mother or any of her family um we do not know she has brothers or sisters she moved to Victoria she lost all her accents and never spoke.of.her heritage. She l did have very unique talents as a tea leaf reader as well as the "cursed ring
Has anyone heard this last name before?

WaterDroplet     Apr 27, 2014, 09:32pm  #21

My great grandmother's maiden name was Sęcio. She supposedly came from Łask, a village near ŁódĽ, but we know nothing about her parents, or if she had siblings. I have seen a photo of her , and she had black hair , in curly small ringlets, intense dark brown eyes (close together ) a beaky nose that was skinny, but fair skin. Has a very 'Mediterranean look.' I've googled the last name and found tons of somewhat similar ones from Spain, Italy, etc but none are similar enough to be hers. Any thoughts?

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  ♂   Apr 28, 2014, 02:18am  #22

WaterDroplet:
My great grandmother's maiden name was Sęcio.


About 50 people of that name in Poland, highly concentrated in Pabianice, not far from Łask. Pabianice does indeed have a significant gypsy community. So it's possible.


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