Are Bavarians at any chance, related to the Polish people?

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UnknownPolanThreads: 1 Joined: Nov 14, 10 ♂	Nov 14, 10, 20:25 #1
I've always been wondering this, and I have Bavarian blood in me. I also wanted to know if I'm Polish or not. Because what's the point of being proud of being Polish, if you're not even Polish?

Lyzko

Nov 14, 10, 20:56 #2

To my certain knowledge, Bavarians are not related to any Slavic peoples! Now if you had Cashubian blood and are or were descended from Sorbian/Wendish speakers, that's another story. They are most definitely of the West Slavic tribe. Many have a tad darker eye color than most ethnic Germans, yet their bone structure and height clearly show Germanic influence:-)

Bavarians just may have some Turkish blood dating back to the Ottoman Empire and the Sobieski period in Polish history round about the time that the Turks were on their way to conquering most of Central Europe until the Poles fended them off (..and heroically too, I must say).

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07 ♂	Nov 14, 10, 21:24 #3
They are related to the Austrians, not the Poles...

Lyzko

Nov 16, 10, 23:15 #4

Correct, B.B., and the heavy epicanthic fold over the eyes among many Bavarians, along with a sallow complexion and extra coarse dark hair compared with other Germans, has been suggested by some as proof of Turkish or Asian assimilation somewhere in the distant past. North Germans tend to be tall and blond, Rhinelanders stockier and darker eyed, owing perhaps to the ancient Roman settlers along the Rhine.

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Edited by: George8600 Nov 17, 10, 00:00 #5

Bratwurst Boy:

They are related to the Austrians, not the Poles...

True, I have asked this questions to Bavarians and Austrians and most of them concur. However, judging by their looks I would say Bavarians don't have a single drop of slavic blood in them.

guest:

has been suggested by some as proof of Turkish or Asian assimilation somewhere in the distant past

This is BS, even these features being found in Balkaners has shown up little to none in genetic testing there.

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07 ♂	Nov 17, 10, 00:09 #7
waits for Crow to claim them as Sarmatians

guesswhoThreads: 23 Posts: 3,326 Joined: Mar 17, 10 ♀	Nov 17, 10, 00:12 #8
Bratwurst Boy: waits for Crow to claim them as Sarmatians or even better, "crowatians", lol

SokratesThreads: 19 Posts: 4,464 Joined: Jan 19, 09 ♂ [Suspended]	Nov 17, 10, 00:18 #9
Bratwurst Boy: They are related to the Austrians, not the Poles... Austrians are related to Poles quite a bit BB:))) Anyway Bavarians are a mix of roman settles, gauls and germanic tribes.

guesswhoThreads: 23 Posts: 3,326 Joined: Mar 17, 10 ♀	Edited by: guesswho Nov 17, 10, 01:10 #10
Sokrates: Austrians are related to Poles quite a bit BB:))) any link about it?

IronsideThreads: 59 Posts: 6,783 Joined: Feb 26, 09 ♂	Nov 17, 10, 01:13 #11
Sokrates: Anyway Bavarians are a mix of roman settles, gauls and germanic tribes. don't forget Avars !

POLENGGGsThreads: 5 Posts: 211 Joined: Apr 26, 10 ♂	Nov 27, 10, 02:07 #12
They are most definately not. But, there has been over the ages an influx into Bavaria of ethnic Poles. (even the ones who where DP's after the war and decided to stay) - because the ones who migrated after the war would not have assimilated I should think. Above all, a Bayer is not exactly the Nazi perfect German, as alot of their population is Alpinid (stocky, short, bigheaded & dark)

CrowThreads: 367 Posts: 7,316 Joined: Feb 14, 07 ♂ [Suspended]	Nov 27, 10, 02:19 #13
Are Bavarians at any chance, related to the Polish people? yes. Bavarians are Slavs in origin

PennBoyThreads: 157 Posts: 3,440 Joined: Dec 7, 08 ♂	Nov 27, 10, 04:29 #14
Crow: Bavarians are Slavs in origin Aren't the Czechs partially Bavarian, though mixing.

Pinching PeteThreads: 1 Posts: 1,111 Joined: Feb 23, 08 ♂	Nov 27, 10, 06:38 #15
Lots of Bavarians are dark.. just sayin'.

TrevekThreads: 33 Posts: 2,155 Joined: May 21, 08 ♂	Nov 27, 10, 10:28 #16
Didn't a lot of the german expellees get moved in Bavaria (must have been a few drops of Polish blood there...)?

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Nov 27, 10, 12:12 #17

Crow:

yes. Bavarians are Slavs in origin

We are all one big slavic family ;-)

Pinching Pete:

Lots of Bavarians are dark.. just sayin'.

Even in Germany they are considered to be a little special. I am from the northern part and they called me during my university time there "Prussian"(Preusse). ;-)

As far as the color is concerned, brown in all variaties, but that color is spreading slightly, unfortunately. ;-)

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Edited by: Crow Nov 27, 10, 13:51 #18

PennBoy:

Aren't the Czechs partially Bavarian, though mixing.

Their old name was Boii and while they used that name they were very close to the original form of ethnic name, Ser-boi (Serboi). With time `Ser` was lost and even more later local designation `Czech` prevailed.

to tell you frankly, we are all Sarmatians, SRBI (or form SRBIJANCI). Just, Lusatian and Balkan Serbs keep using (in possible original form) that once universal name of all Proto Slavs. Many others (Poles among them) adopted local ethnic designation- Polani but still preserved memory on their Sarmatian past/origin.

Words `Bavarian`, `Barbarian`, `Boika`, `Boii` are probably of same origin. For `Boii` we know that coming from `Serboi`, as linguistics confirms. See, Serboi is nothing but SRBI (Serbs, Serbians), original form of Sarmatians/Sarmats. Those words `Bavarian`, `Barbarian`, `Boika`,.. semas to be shortened terms of Sarmatia (i mean, original word Sarmatia- `Serbia`; actually- SRBIJA).

Confusion coming from fact that Greek and Roman authors couldn`t pronounce that SRB and they soften that with form SRM, inserting even `a` SARM.

But, speaking of our ultimate past, we are all RAS narod (people)- foreign designation was Thracians (Th-racians),.. /Roman version was `Traci`/,.. /Byzantine version was Triballi/,../Slovak-Hungarian (Panonian) version was `Raci`/,.. /Polish version was `Racowie`/,../Russian version is `Rusi` and it is still in use. Form SRB (Sarmats) appeared on historical scene later, with higher level of social organization and on the higher level of diversification of language. Still, it is possible that ethnic designations based on the roots RAS/SRB existed parallel from the time of immemorial and that even form SRB could be older- primordial. i would later speak more of it in one other thread.

KrynskiThreads: - Posts: 175 Joined: Nov 9, 10 ♂	Edited by: Krynski Nov 27, 10, 14:08 #19
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guesswhoThreads: 23 Posts: 3,326 Joined: Mar 17, 10 ♀	Nov 17, 10, 00:08 #6
They are from ......... http://www.zeitlerweb.com/bavaria.htm