Crest and the meaning of last name Sumski

tlckrsumThreads: 1 Posts: 5 Joined: Feb 3, 11 ♀	Feb 3, 11, 04:06 #1
Im looking for any information on the last name Sumski . I know that it was shortened when they came to the usa. Think there may have been a z in it. any information will help. Thanks

tygrysThreads: 2 Posts: 404 Joined: Dec 28, 07 ♂	Feb 3, 11, 04:48 #2
Could have been Szumski. "Szum" has several meanings, it is a town in Poland, a river, it also means noise, sometimes unwanted noise, a hiss or hum.

Polonius3Threads: 1,005 Posts: 4,833 Joined: Apr 11, 08 ♂	Feb 3, 11, 07:31 #3
SUMSKI: as already stated it could be a 'Masurianised' pronunciation of Szumski from, szum (rustle, murmur, metaphorically commotion as in 'narobić szumu'); or from sum (sheatfish), now the largest sweet-water fish in Poland (often 7 ft in length and 150 lbs).

tlckrsumThreads: 1 Posts: 5 Joined: Feb 3, 11 ♀	Feb 3, 11, 12:28 #4
Thank you .... do you happen to know what part of poland that name was most popular.

tlckrsumThreads: 1 Posts: 5 Joined: Feb 3, 11 ♀	Feb 3, 11, 12:38 #5
does anyone know where i could find the family crest for "Sumski" or what the meaning of the family crest is?

enkiduThreads: 18 Posts: 983 Joined: Sep 23, 08 ♂	Feb 3, 11, 12:46 #6
tlckrsum: does anyone know where i could find the family crest for "Sumski" or what the meaning of the family crest is? You can find (and buy) it on EBay.

tlckrsumThreads: 1 Posts: 5 Joined: Feb 3, 11 ♀	Feb 3, 11, 12:48 #7
ok Thanks

enkiduThreads: 18 Posts: 983 Joined: Sep 23, 08 ♂	Feb 3, 11, 12:48 #8
tlckrsum: Thank you .... do you happen to know what part of poland that name was most popular. Here you go.

tlckrsumThreads: 1 Posts: 5 Joined: Feb 3, 11 ♀	Feb 3, 11, 12:51 #9
What would be the polish spelling for Sumski.... I was told it was a longer name and that is why it was shortened.

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Edited by: enkidu Feb 3, 11, 12:51 #10

tlckrsum:

ok Thanks

No seriously - why do you think that there is any family crest associated with this surname?

The only crest I found is actually a Slovakian one. Taking under consideration that currently of 18 people with this surname, 10 lives in Krakow - it may be right clue. Are you sure, you are of Polish ancestry?

On the other hand - the "Szumski" surname is associated with at least three different coats of arms.

Polonius3Threads: 1,005 Posts: 4,833 Joined: Apr 11, 08 ♂	Feb 3, 11, 13:03 #11
No coat of arms for Sumski, but there were nobles amongst the Szumskis who belonged to two separate clans: Poronia and Jastrzębiec.

VarsovianThreads: 91 Posts: 568 Joined: Nov 23, 06 ♂	Feb 3, 11, 13:09 #12
My wife's family has got a crest, but she's so embarrassed she's never shown me it.

Polonius3Threads: 1,005 Posts: 4,833 Joined: Apr 11, 08 ♂	Feb 3, 11, 13:48 #13
What's the clan-name of her family coat of arms? If unknown, what is her maiden name?

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Feb 3, 11, 14:03 #14

I know Sumski is not the original name ... i was told it was very long with a z and maybe a p and ch in it... im trying to find out what the original name was but no one who would know is still living. I do know there is a family crest because it is in the family but im unable to contact the person who we think has it. If i do find it how do you figure out the meaning of it are there certain symbols that mean certain things and is there a website that might be able to help me do that?

Polonius3Threads: 1,005 Posts: 4,833 Joined: Apr 11, 08 ♂	Feb 4, 11, 18:50 #15
If you say it was with a zed (or sz in other words) and was longer, then it might have been: Szumkowski, Szumiłowski Szumiński, Szumliński, Szumotalski, Szumicki; Szumnarski, etc. But 'might have been' is prue guesswork. You would have to come up with some documents or other evidence pointing to one of those names, otherwise you'll be off on a wild goose chase.

descendant	Dec 29, 11, 00:04 #16
Szumski was my grand mother's maiden name (she was from a noble family) living in 1920's in Novogrodek area of Poland (currently Belarus).

Polonius3Threads: 1,005 Posts: 4,833 Joined: Apr 11, 08 ♂	Dec 29, 11, 14:54 #17
There were two noble lines amongst the bearers of the Szumski surname belonging either to the Jastrzębiec or Poronia clans. Google Jastrząbiec coat of arms and Poronia coat of arms to see what those heraldic devices look like.

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