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 Aug 26, 08, 04:19    #1
I am attempting to research my Grandfather - Fl Lt Tarkowski who flew with 605 , 315 and 307 Squadrons – If anybody has any information , articles , photos etc it would be a great help.

I am also looking for any info etc on Lady Jersey ( Virginia Cherrill and her husband Florian Martini )
Matt1970@bloomberg.net

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Edited by: McCoy  Aug 26, 08, 04:46    #2
is this your grandfather?:
[imgs=http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Lab/9431/pilots/Tarkowski _s]P76743 F/Lt TARKOWSKI Czeslaw[/imgs]
about 307
http://wp39.pl/dywizjon-307-lwowskich-puchaczy
307 Dywizjon My¶liwski "Lwowskich Puchaczy"
book about squadron 307: http://www.empik.com/307-dywizjon-mysliwski-nocny-lwowskich-puchaczy-k siazka,1460,p
about 315
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No._315_Polish_Fighter_Squadron
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Lab/9431/p_list.html
http://www.polishairforce.pl/dyw315zdj.html
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 Jul 1, 10, 23:57    #3
Hi - I have changed my email to mattm1970@mac.com if you can send me any relevent links or info to here that would really help pls - tks matt ( Flt Lt Tarkowski 315 + 307 sqd )
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 Jul 2, 10, 18:29    #4
loads of info here: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/

just write tarkowski in the search box and you'll get seven results on the first page.
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 Jul 3, 10, 22:18    #5
TARKOWSKI: root-word tarka (grater); toponymic nick from Tarków or Tarkowo (Graterton)

TULIŃSKI: root-word tulić (to cuddle, press against one's chest); toponymic nick from Tulin or Tuliny.
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 Jul 19, 10, 12:39    #6
My Grandfather , Fl Lt Tarkowski 605 , 315 and 307 Squadrons sold his WW2 Log Book to Gerald Kochan from The Center For Military Studies in Greenville Texas.

In the spring of 2001 my Grandfather was six months away from death and very ill . It was extremely distressing to see somebody who took such pride in his memory fade before your eyes.What I must say is that his death was relatively quick - we didn't see him deteriorate over years and years.

What shocked us was that we only discovered in 2006 that he had sold his Log Book.My Grandfather would never have done so if he was in complete control of his facilities - my Grandmother pleaded with not to do so and we are at a loss to understand why he did so - to be blunt he was a wealthy man and certainly did not need the money.
Secondly he was a great collector - he never threw anything away and would never have wanted it to leave the family.

As soon as my mother discovered that the Log book was missing ( it took 5 years for her to go through his belongings ....and we've yet to finish doing so !) she contacted Mr Kochan ( via "The Center For Military Studies" ) - she received a definitive "no" to its return.

It has taken another four years for me to discover this ( my mother was very distressed and refused to talk about the episode ) and I must say I am absolutely determined to recover the original Log book .

I note from his internet site http://centerformilitarystudies.org/sitemap.php that my Grandfathers log book does not seem to be in the archive ( which worries me )

Has anybody had any contact with Gerald Kochan or The Center for Military Studies ?
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 Aug 4, 10, 23:04    #7
Further to my post on the BBC -I have now had contact with CH4 as well -it seems that there is greater interest in this story than I appreciated .

I'd like to thank all of you who took the time and effort to contact me over the last few weeks ( especially those who made the effort to meet face to face )

This story is far from over - but I believe the publicity will do wonders for our cause.

Finally I'd like to promote The Keith Park Memorial http://www.sirkeithpark.com/ - The permanent bronze statue of Sir Keith Park will grace a new Plinth in Waterloo Place; the unveiling will be a principal part of the RAF's celebration of the 70th anniversary of the Battle of Britain and will take place on 15th September 2010.
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Edited by: Administrator  Aug 10, 10, 23:47    #8
Thread attached on merging:
Flight Lieutenant Czeslaw Tarkowski’s Remembrances

“Rememberences” from The Battle of Britain

http://blogs.independent.co.uk/2010/08/10/real-history-flight-lieutena nt-czeslaw-tarkowskis-remembrances/
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Edited by: Moderator  Aug 13, 10, 15:46    #9
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Polish WW2 Air Force Pilot - The Independent Newspaper

http://blogs.independent.co.uk/2010/08/13/real-history-raf-pilot-bails -out-of-his-hurricane/

8th of November 1940

''It was a warm and foggy morning. We were just finishing our breakfast when the post was distributed. I was just about to open a letter from my girl when someone shouted “Squadron to be ready!”.
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Edited by: Moderator  Aug 15, 10, 17:29    #10
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Response from the Center for Military Studies and Gerald Kochan

This post relates to a couple of threads in the Genealogy section and may be merged at a later time. Thank you.


It has been brought to my attention that an email from Mr. Matt McCarthy purporting to seek assistance in locating the Center for Military Studies has been generating misinformation and half truths. In the interest of providing you the forum member a balanced picture of both the Center and acquisition of the Logbook of FLT Tarkowski, I would like to submit the following background information for your review:

First, the Center has never tried to hide anything of its operation or history. I do take blame for not having updated our website which would have eliminated much of the conjecture that has been guided by the slant of Mr. McCarthy’s posts on your site.

Mr. McCarthy contacted us prior to posting anything on your forum demanding that we sell back his “grandfather’s” logbook. He stated that FLT Tarkowski had dementia, he was a trustee for the estate and the Center had no right to the logbook. I wrote back stating that we as any institution had a responsibility to honor the intentions of the individual entrusting something to our care. I explained to him that there had been two occasions previously where a family member felt that they deserved the item and did not agree with their family and seller of the item. Both those occasions resulted in initial bad press because of the emotional nature of “family”, yet in the end had resulted in even the dissenter accepting the wishes of the others and acknowledging that our venue was a proper one to honor their family member. During the time that I interviewed FLT Tarkowski, he was lucid and was able to answer any and all questions with great detail. Another point that Mr. McCarthy chooses to ignore is that FLT Tarkowski’s wife was present during the entire discussion, and no one has dared to suggest that she too was suffering from dementia. I was there to talk with FLT Tarkowski at the bequest of other former flyers who had participated in a documentary that I wrote and produced on the PAF during WW2 called White Eagle in Borrowed Skies. FLT Tarkowski offered the logbook to me in hopes of aiding my efforts to research and to promote the WW2 history of the Poles. I informed them that his logbook had a financial value to collectors and that I insisted on paying them at least the auction value of comparable logbooks as a condition of taking it. At that point in time, I had already enjoyed some success in taking the Polish efforts mainstream and provided key artifacts and displays to the Mighty Eighth Air Force Museum, the 82nd Airborne Museum, and the Silent Wings Museum among others.

Despite our legal right to the logbook, I have from the very first communication stated that I would consider an exception to policy, selling it to the estate, provided that I received specific information attesting to FLT Tarkowski’s dementia and Mr. McCarthy’s status as trustee and concurrence of the others responsible for his estate. So that there could be no confusion, I even had my British lawyers formally state these conditions to Mr. McCarthy. There has as of yet been no response to these basic requests.

Mr. McCarthy makes a point of saying that the item is not on the Center’s website and that he is concerned as to whether it is even in the Center’s possession. The website has never been intended as a catalog of inventory. It is there to provide additional access to researchers. Mr. McCarthy was informed from the start that the Center has the item and even has a copy of it courtesy of a researcher who obtained it though the Center.


Mr. McCarthy makes great note of seeking the museum of the Center in Texas. There has never been any museum in Texas, nor have I ever claimed such. There is a “brick and mortar” location under our own control now, but not in Texas. The Center occupies a dedicated wing of the Polish American Museum in Port Washington, Long Island. I serve as curator and member of the board of directors at that institution in addition to my responsibilities as Executive Director for the Center.

Our organization has gone through several growth stages in its history. From small scale such as the earliest efforts in which I promoted the work of George Cholewczynski, author of Poles Apart by arranging a speaking tour and accompanying him so that he could present to many professional schools such as the Infantry Officer’s Career course. We learned much through our efforts to document the Polish struggle resulting in the documentary, White Eagle in Borrowed Skies. Each event gaining greater contacts, experiences and broadening our focus. Just as you don’t need to own a studio to make a documentary, our early efforts at exhibits were aimed at using other institutions to pass the word. Soon, we were involved with supporting several institutions. September 11th changed the access to many of the military museums and we experienced the effect that a change in directors can have at other institutions. So in the quest for greater control and access we formed an alliance with the Polish American Museum under the leadership of Barbara Szydlowski, President which started off as a series of cooperative ventures and is now a formalized partnership. As stated earlier, we occupy a dedicated wing of the museum under our control and continue to expand, rotate and present new materials at that location to enhance understanding of not just Poland’s WW2 experience but recent efforts in Bosnia, Afghanistan and Iraq in conjunction with U.S. forces. Currently, we are in the process of releasing two new documentaries about the Polish Forces in WW2 and updating the websites of both the Museum and following that of the Center.

Much has been made of the emotional impact of a family member’s artifacts going outside the family. I understand the influence of emotion because it is the emotional homage to my own Father’s service as a Polish paratrooper during WW2 and my Grandfather with 2nd Korps as while as numerous other family members that prompted my efforts. They were crystallized for me as a result of my own experiences as an officer and decorated combat veteran who served alongside Polish forces. I hold very sacred the trust to honor the veterans, and family members who have placed their trust in us. We are not yet perfect and with each spurt of growth experience the growing pains that accompany it, yet we are still dedicated to that mission.

Lastly, I hope that you members of the forum will use that same energy you have displayed thus far to help us do an even better job in our mission. We invite you to get involved, please feel free to contact me with your insights or questions directly at gkochan_cms@hotmail.com.
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 Aug 17, 10, 10:16    #11
Gerald M Kochan - Center for Military Studies.

I note from the recent entry Mr Kochan of 'The Center for Military Studies' that he is, as ever, being highly selective in his responses and his use of language and mis-information. The highly defensive and emotive nature of response speaks volumes. I will try to answer his points as briefly as follows:
My reason for my enquiries on the internet was to gather information about my Grandfathers wartime career in the RAF and the Polish Air force. The Log Book arose as an adjunct to that research. In response to the specifics –
· He acquired the Log Book in the months prior to my grandfather's death when he was extremely unwell and vulnerable

· He has failed to mention that my mother, Flt Lt Tarkowski's daughter and Executor/Trustee, first wrote to Mr Kochan in October 2006 when she found out about the missing Log Book. She explained her father's medical history but Mr Kochan refused to return it.

· In recent months I took up the challenge of trying to have to Book returned to his family. There was no demand from me – I offered to buy it back.

· As explained to Mr Kochan there is unity not dissent within the family regarding its return.

· In the very brief time Mr Kochan met my grandfather he feels he is an expert on his mental wellbeing. Mrs Tarkowska, his widow (who was a Doctor) made it quite clear at the time that he should not sell the book. My mother, a nurse, cared for him in the months before his death during which time the Log Book was obtained without her knowledge.

· Mr Kochan has been unwilling to answer why he obtained the Log Book when all my grandfather's other militaria were given to my mother for safekeeping.

· It was me who first approached his lawyers (not the other way round as Mr Kochan is trying to suggest) to establish what information they required to facilitate the return of the document. The dialogue is on-going. We have never suggested that the document wasn't legally his – it is the circumstances surrounding the acquisition that we challenge. His statements are disingenuous.

· Despite all his assurances Mr Kochan still fails to confirm where the Log Book is being held or provide evidence that he still has it.

· I have been informed that neither he nor his organisation is known to the following who are based in or near his home town
Texas Association of Museums
RockwallCounty Library
W. Walworth Harrison Public Library
Air Force Association NE Texas Chapter 416
Greenville Chamber of Commerce

· This is the first time Mr Kochan has admitted that there is no facility in Texas.

· Attempts to log on to the National Polish Museum in Port Washington have interesting results http://polishamericanmuseum.org/

· From advice I have been given by them The Museum of The Mighty Eighth Air Force Museum and the 82nd Airborne Museum have a very different view of Mr Kochan's relationship with them and the content and value of his 'contributions' to their organisations.

· A simple search of the internet has shown that there are many people or families who have the same experiences as us. I have been contacted by several individuals and organisations who have provided important background information.

· To others out there I would ask you contribute to this discussion if you have had similar experiences regarding the loss of important family history. There is no reason to be afraid providing your information is true.

All I have endeavoured to achieve is the return of the Log Book to its morally and ethically correct guardians. Mr Kochan's obfuscation, continuing failure to answer direct questions and issuing of mis-information has made it very difficult.
If nothing else I hope that others act cautiously when considering disposing of their very important family heirlooms and memorabilia to whoever requests them and if someone turns up in military uniform please always check that they are legally entitled to wear it.
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 Aug 17, 10, 10:43    #12
Just for the record

"Mr. McCarthy contacted us prior to posting anything on your forum demanding that we sell back his “grandfather’s” logbook." G Kochan


If you scroll up you wil lsee my first post is Aug 26, 08



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