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John Zeilinski. Late 1800's Poland/Pittsburgh.


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Edited by: Moderator  Aug 16, 10, 03:06    #1
I hope I've posted this in the right place I can't seem to find any information on my Polish ancestors this is all the information I have my Grandfather's name is John Zeilinski who was married to a Lucy(Lucile) they migrated to the states early 1900 or late 1800 settled in Pittsburgh PA(USA) any further information would be helpful.
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 Aug 16, 10, 22:47    #2
ZIELIŃSKI is the proper spelling. The basic root is “ziel-” which refers either to the color green or by extension to green growing herbs. From it are derived such words as “zielony” (adjective green), “zieleń” (greenness, greenery), “zielenieć” (to turn green) and “ziele” (herb).
However, since most Polish surnames ending in “-ski” are of toponymic origin (see point 6 on page 1 of this report), more likely than not yours in no exception. That means they arose not through some association with what the name’s root meant, but to identify someone as an inhabitant of a given community.
There are localities in Poland such as Zielin, Zielinca, Zieliniec and Zielińsk (linguistically the most perfect matches) as well as Zieleniec, Zielinice, Zieleniew, Zieleniewo, Zieleń Zielęcice, Zielięcin Zielniczki, Zielniki and Zielona which could have easily produced the Zieliński nickname to indicate a local inhabitant.
Incidentally, on the basis of typical Anglo-Saxon place-naming tradition, the Polish names of those localities might be roughly translated into English as Greenville, Greensburg, Greentown, Greening or something along those general lines. I should add that there are at least 15 localities named Zielonka and at least 9 compounds such as Zielona Łąka (Green Meadow) and Zielona Wieś (Green Hamlet).
Zieliński is Poland’s 6th most popular, shared by nearly 86,000 Poles. According to a widely held rule of thumb alleging that about one-fourth of all Polish people live abroad, theoretically there may be another 21,000 or so in North America and world-wide. I wouldn’t be a bit surprised if over the years you have occasionally run into unrelated Zieliński or two or at least seen the name on store-fronts, billboards or campaign posters as well as in news stories, obituaries or even in movie credits.
In Poland, a major Zieliński bastion is the Mazowsze region, notably Greater Warsaw and environs (8,673) and the areas in and around the cities of Radom (2,231), Płock (2,148), Ciechanów (1,216) and Skierniewice (1,721). Others make their home west of Mazowsze in the Kujawy region around Bydgoszcz (5,449, Toruń (4,336) and Włocławek (2,631). Moving farther to the west, we encounter more Zielińskis living in the Wielkopolska region in the Poznań (3,626), Konin (1,429), Kalisz (1,078) and Piła (1,419) areas.
Others make their home in the southern region known as ŚLąsk (Silesia) in and around its capital of Katowice (4,252) and the adjacent mountainous Bielsko-Biała area to the south (1,066). Others are found in and around Kraków (1,900), Kielce (2,907) Tarnobrzeg (1,251) and Tarnów (1,207). Additional Zieliński pockets are found in and around the central city of Łódź (3,043) and the eastern city of Lublin (2,652).
A few thousand more live in the ancient northern and western Polish lands that were part of Germany before the war but were assigned to Poland by the Big Three Allies to partially compensate for the one-half of pre-war Poland seized by Stalin’s USSR. After the war, the regained territories were largely resettled by Polish repatriates from the Soviet-annexed east.
The largest Zieliński clusters in those areas are found in and around the SW cities of Wrocław (2,264), Legnica (1,176), Wałbrzych (1,277) and Jelenia Góra (1,076); across the Baltic coastal region around Gdańsk (4,077), Szczecin (2,394), Elbląg (1,505), Koszalin (1,429) and Słupsk (1,030); in the forested, lake-studded northlands of Mazury around Olsztyn (1,730) and in the Zielona Góra (1,486) and Gorzów (1,066) areas of far-western Poland. The remaining Zielińskis are scattered in smaller pockets across the land.
Although this is not to suggest that your line of the family was of noble rank, there were members of the gentry amongst the Zielińskis entitled to use one of 10 different coats of arms. These included Jastrzębiec, Ciołek, Jelita, Dąbrowa and Doliwa.
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Edited by: TheOther  Aug 18, 10, 03:16    #3
Polonius3:
in the ancient northern and western Polish lands

Polonius3:
the regained territories

Enjoyed too many years of communist education, didn't you? ;)

Polonius3:
were assigned to Poland by the Big Three Allies

Churchill didn't have a say in this, and AFAIK he was actually against giving German lands to Poland and Polish lands to the USSR. Those responsible for the mess were Stalin and Roosevelt.
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Edited by: GypsyMagick  Aug 18, 10, 05:09    #4
Wow that is impressive to learn but I was just wondering if any of my ancestors were still alive and I do know for fact my Great grandfather's family were still alive I do remember hearing that he was a executioner for the Polish army. And my Grand father took the American last name as green so that makes sense.My birth last name is Witkowski
Thank you very much!.
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 Aug 18, 10, 08:10    #5
As regards tracking down actual ancestors please contact: polonius3@gazeta.pl



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