Katyn/Starobielsk family survivors in Oz?

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Edited by: Tatiana Feb 16, 09, 09:58 #1

I am researching Katyn as my Grandfather was killed at Starobielsk/Kharkov. Been a long 10 year journey to make progress but finally visited Katyn museum in 2007 and finally verified his name. As his wife disappeared literally to Australia no connection was made till l, from this side of the family at least..
Now I wonder are there many survivors' families here in Melbourne and Australia that are interested in talking to me....willing to compare notes ..?
dzięki

basia123	Apr 2, 09, 13:38 #2
my grandfather was killled in Miednoje. He is on Katyn list. in 9/11/2009 he was awarded post-mortem higher rank of major. He was kapitan in 2 baon saperow. Basia from Perth

konrad39Threads: - Posts: 1 Joined: May 29, 10 ♀	Jun 23, 10, 14:11 #3
My grandmother was in Starobielsk briefly after leaving another camp on the way to yet another, around the time of the Katyn massacre.

cewThreads: - Posts: 1 Joined: Jul 7, 10 ♀	Jul 7, 10, 13:54 #4
I'm in Melbourne and, like you, my Grandfather was murdered by the NKVD in 1940. He was a Lieutenant Colonel in the Polish Army and is listed on the Ukraine Katyn list. I have only recently started on my information-seeking journey and would be happy if you would contact me.

Machnicka

Nov 12, 10, 04:38 #5

hello, my name is Wanda ... i live in England ... my father was a survivor of Starobielsk and, l too have been researching my family history.

I visited the Katyn museum in Warsaw Poland.

I have been trying to compile a list of the 79 survivors of Starobielsk but I have only managed to list a few, and unfortunately they are no longer alive now.

Sadly my father is no longer alive. He died in 1976.

I have collected a lot of information during the course of my research, as I am sure you have.

If there is anything in particular that you are searching for, please let me know. Good luck with your family-history.

I look forward to hearing from you, even though Australia is so far away, internet makes communication so easy.

Miss Wanda Machnicka

konstanty

May 24, 11, 11:05 #6

Hi, I don't live in Australia (england) but i have been searching for information about my dad, he died aged 102 in 2006. Below is the information i recieved from the Kresy-Siberia website, it may be worth you getting in contact with them for more information. Anna

browse or search through our messages archive and visit the links at Kresy-Siberia.org

RUDY Konstanty son Jana born 1905 (in documents 1906)
was a farmer and was arrested at Kostopol na Wolyniu on 17/18th September 1939.
Taken to a camp at Chalychowka and then to Antopol in Rowne and finally to Babin. He was interned and sent to Koziolszczyzna in Poltawa; Proskorov, Jarmoliniec and finally was at Starobielsk near Charkow; there worked at a quarry and in construction of roads. (All in his records).
Was 'amnestied' on 24th August 1941 and moved to Tockoje to join Anders Army where he was ' strzelec'.

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Jan 3, 12, 09:54 #7

Hi, I am in Sydney Australia and have just started researching the murder of my grandfather. He was killed in the Katyn Massacres but he was on the "Ukraine list" which I am finding hard to unravel. It appears his body is at the mass grave in Bykovnia but I don't know if that's where he was executed. I would love to talk/compare notes - I don't speak Polish which is making the process harder. Thank you.

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Jan 3, 12, 19:52 #8

Anna P:

I would love to talk/compare notes

there is an official report, in english, which lists the steps taken by the german authorities, after the discovery at katyn.

i know because i read it a week or two ago. but of course, i've lost the link.

you could also watch the film 'Katyn'. one doesn't need to speak Polish to know/see what took place.

not all of those found at katyn were reinterred there. this is regardless of what any report says to the contrary.

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Jan 4, 12, 07:21 #9

Thank you Wroclaw. There is a huge amount of information regarding the Katyn, Starobielsk and Mednoye but the Ukraine list (and also Belurusian list) is much less documented because Russia still has those files classified and will not release them. Would love any help / info from members on the Ukraine list. This appears to be a "civilian prisoner list" as opposed to the POW camps for officers etc. However my grandfather was a policeman so it is a bit of a mystery why he isn't on the Mednoye list (over 6,000 policemen). Anna

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