KUKULKA - page 2

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Edited by: TheOther Dec 11, 09, 20:00 #31

markskibniewski:

you responded by telling her her descendants were not Polish

Read again. I told her that her grandmother was not born in Poland, and I didn't mention descendants at all.

yes but that does not make them German...

It made this person a German citizen of Polish ethnicity.

...nor if you want to find genealogical data on anyone being born there would you look in the Germany

...the fact is if you are looking for genealogical data for a person born in "occupied" Poland ...you will have to look in Poland

Totally wrong! Many protestant church records for example are not in Poland, but in Berlin in the EZA. Until recently, many catholic church books were to be found in Regensburg, Germany.

The fact that American history is limited to a short time frame does not prevent me from being proud of being an American citizen

That's not what I meant... :)

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Dec 11, 09, 23:39 #32

TheOther:

Totally wrong! Many protestant church records for example are not in Poland, but in Berlin in the EZA. Until recently, many catholic church books were to be found in Regensburg, Germany.

Well if I am looking for records for less than 1 percent of the population no problem I will book my next flight to Germany. But I am thinking there is more than a 99 percent chance the records will be in Poland.

As far as the Catholic records all records can be found in Polish archives unless they were destroyed during the war or in the Polish uprising.

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Edited by: TheOther Dec 11, 09, 23:54 #33

markskibniewski:

Well if I am looking for records for less than 1 percent of the population

You don't make much sense, Mark. Do you have an idea how many people there are worldwide who are descendants of protestant Germans, Dutch, French or Scots who lived in the area which is now Poland? The chance that the majority of protestant church books remained in Poland is quite low actually, given the fact that almost 400000 of them ended up in Moscow and are now scanned by the LDS, that loads of them were destroyed during the war and by the Poles immediately after the war, and that many more are kept in Berlin.

As far as the Catholic records all records can be found in Polish archives unless they were destroyed during the war or in the Polish uprising

A lot of old catholic church books were given back to Poland by Germany as late as 2001, and AFAIK there are still plenty left in the archives in Regensburg (I heard it's closed now) and Nuremberg, respectively.

markskibniewskiThreads: 4 Posts: 357 Joined: May 31, 09 ♂	Dec 12, 09, 00:37 #34
TheOther: protestant AHHHH yes I do considering protestants make up less than 1 percent of the persons in Poland and that is just persons of the christian faith. A lot of old catholic church books were given back to Poland by Germany as late as 2001 Thanks for making my point.

TheOtherThreads: 5 Posts: 1,584 Joined: Jul 13, 09 ♂	Edited by: TheOther Dec 12, 09, 00:43 #35
markskibniewski: AHHHH yes I do considering protestants You're either drunk, stoned or both, or you simply don't get it. :) Thanks for making my point Well, you might want to read the rest of the sentence first... Cheers!

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Dec 12, 09, 01:07 #36

TheOther:

You're either drunk, stoned or both, or you simply don't get it. :)

Apparently you don't get it. Less than 1 percent of Poland is protestant. So of course if your looking for protestant records... there is more than a 99 % chance they won't be there. If Iowagirl's relative was protestant.... than by all means I would suggest she book the first flight out to Germany to check those records.

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Dec 12, 09, 01:29 #37

markskibniewski:

Less than 1 percent of Poland is protestant

Gheez, Mark - that's nowadays. When we are talking about ancestors, we might want to go back in time a bit, don't you think? Probably to an era not too long ago when the percentage of protestants in Poland was much, much higher than it is today? Need more hints, or do I need to call the doctor?

If Iowagirl's relative was protestant....

Again: I was responding to Hellen and NOT to the OP. Where does Hellen say that her ancestor was catholic?

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Dec 12, 09, 02:00 #38

TheOther
I apoligize you are right It was Helen. It is possible that her relative was Protestant. But even in the early 1800's the height of the protestant faith in Poland the area was still only 30 percent protestant. I will wait to see if Helen's ancestors were in fact protestant before I make any recommendations regarding possible research.

When we are talking about ancestors

It was nice to hear you use the word instead of citizens. As geealogy is more the study of one heritage not ones citzenship.

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Edited by: TheOther Dec 12, 09, 03:33 #39

markskibniewski:

As geealogy is more the study of one heritage not ones citzenship

I agree with you, heritage is important. But if you do not understand the political environment your ancestors lived in, you will never know why your heritage/ cultural background is the way it is. One thing I will never get for example is, why so many (Plastic) Poles on this forum simply refuse to accept that the histories of both Poland and Germany are so deeply interconnected in eastern Europe that you can hardly keep them apart. What sense does it make to deny historical facts just to paint (your personal idea of) your heritage in the rosiest light possible?

Vienna1956

Mar 26, 10, 12:59 #40

Hello I am also a KUKULKA born in Vienna and I can trace my family tree through various generations.

It is of polish heritage but I too have only started looking and have created my family tree.

There are an awful lot of Kukulkas in America I notice.

My parents migrated from Austria in 1959 to Australia.

Kukulka means "cuckoo" and my dad was Julius Johann Kukulka, his father was Otto Kukulka, his father Johann Kukulka.
myheritage.com/site-family-tree-109122441/kukulka-family

Frieda McLoughlin (nee KUKULKA)
Sunbury Victoria Australia

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