Looking for family in Poland: Włodarski.

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Feb 21, 12, 01:36 #1

Hi my name is Eduardo, I'm from Brazil and my grandma wants know what happened with the family of my great-grandfather. Here in Brazil have a few people with the same surname and these few people don't know/want know about her surname, so I ask you guys to help me find someone who lives in Poland or what could happened with her family. Here is the name of the brother and sister of my great-father, his name is (my great-grandfather) is Waclaw Wlodarski, Wiczek Wlodarski (hisbrother) and Irena Wlodarska( his sister), i think is Wlodarska because my grandma said the female in Poland has his surname different of the men of family, I don't know. My great-grandfather died 1998, born on 02/28/1916, my grandma doesnt remember where he born but she think is in Kraków(they had a farm) so I'm not . The name of his parents are Anne Wlodarski(mom of great-grandfather) and his dad is Joseph Wlodarski, we don't know certainly his full name.
My great-grandfather was a prisioner in the second world war and left Poland and went to Germany and married with a russian prisioner, thereafter he fled Germany(in 1949) with his family to Brazil. Those are all the information we have, I hope you help me here. I'm sorry my english.

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Feb 21, 12, 13:38 #2

I don't know how to help you, but I am sure that you will find on this site somebody competent in ancestry/genealogy.
I can only help you with proper Polish writting of your family names.
Your great-grandfather name and surname requires Polish letter ł: Wacław Włodarski.
There is no such Polish name as Wiczek. I think that it is probably Witek, short form of Polish name Witold.
Your great-grandfather parents names were: Anna Włodarska and Józef Włodarski.

Polish names and surnames are declinated and have genders. Surnames ended with -ski means that it belong to male, and surname ended with -ska means it's female.
Włodarski (male)
Włodarska (female)

Eduardo_MrB:

My great-grandfather was a prisioner in the second world war and left Poland and went to Germany and married with a russian prisioner, thereafter he fled Germany(in 1949) with his family to Brazil

I think that there should be some records about his imprisonment in Germany. You can look also there, especially if your grandfather stayed there for few years after war ended.
Maybe you could also find records from USA, France, Greate Britain (depends in which occupation zone he stayed after war). Definitely that wasn't Russian zone, because he wouldn't be able to get out of there to go to Brazil.

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Feb 21, 12, 20:23 #3

I hope someone can help me in this case. The name of the brother of my great-grandfather is Witek, I found his name in some old pictures here in the year 1942. He communicated with his brother when he was in Germany, in the letters we found have the city Skierniewice and the street Piotrkowska, number 6 this is the city and street where his brother sent the letters and pictures in 1942. We have the name of the son of his brother, his name is Tadsik, I'm not sure because the letter is in polish and is so old. Thank so much Alligator.

pipThreads: 11 Posts: 1,293 Joined: Jul 4, 11 ♀	Feb 21, 12, 20:38 #4
I am sending you a private message- to check this it is up at the top next to the logo---mail

AlligatorThreads: - Posts: 350 Joined: Dec 15, 10 ♂	Feb 21, 12, 20:44 #5
Not Tadsik but Tadzik - diminutive form of Tadeusz. I looked for Piotrkowska street in Skierniewice, but couldn't find anything. Maybe they changed the name of street. Good luck with your search.

WroclawThreads: 77 Posts: 7,404 Joined: Apr 1, 06 ♂ [Moderator]	Feb 21, 12, 21:00 #6
Alligator: but couldn't find anything. same here. but there are a few sites with (some old ) photos of the town.

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Feb 21, 12, 22:32 #7

Eduardo

Have you been able to find any reference to where he may have stayed in Germany after the war and emigrating to Brazil in 1949? If you can find that out, you may be able to request a copy of the inhabitants registry in regards to your great grandfather. That is what I did for my grandparents. But then I had a photo with their address and the town that they lived in and the year that they were there. If you can not read Polish, there may be someone here that may be able to translate for you.
Also, if he emigrated to Brazil, enquire through the Brazilian Immigration and Naturalization Bureau. You may be able to obtain a copy of his entry form when he entered and/or obtained Brazilian citizenship. But as far as the translation goes, you will have to see about getting whatever letters you have scanned or photographed in order to upload for the person doing the translation for you to see what is written in the letters.

Eduardo_MrBThreads: 1 Posts: 6 Joined: Feb 20, 12 ♂	Feb 21, 12, 22:33 #8
Thank everybody, maybe I've found, but I'm no sure. Next month we'll see if we have the right to dual citizenship, but it is another story. Have people asking where he was a prisioner, we don't know but on his marriage certificate says he was married in Landstuhl. Thank you.

Eduardo_MrBThreads: 1 Posts: 6 Joined: Feb 20, 12 ♂	Feb 21, 12, 22:42 #9
Yes I have pictures and behind have some names and cities, my grandma can understand but she don't speak/read polish a long time if someone want pictures/letters I send. About the Brazilian Immigration here in Brazil this can run many years for they found something.

Polonius3Threads: 1,005 Posts: 4,833 Joined: Apr 11, 08 ♂	Feb 22, 12, 12:19 #10
Iwona Dakiniewicz is a professional genealogist who specialises in tracking down long-lost relatives in Poland. Why not give her a go: genealogy@pro.onet.pl ¡Buena suerte, Eduardo!

Eduardo_MrBThreads: 1 Posts: 6 Joined: Feb 20, 12 ♂	Feb 22, 12, 16:27 #11
Thank you I'll try

Eduardo_MrBThreads: 1 Posts: 6 Joined: Feb 20, 12 ♂	Edited by: Eduardo_MrB Feb 23, 12, 23:45 #12
[imgs=http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg849/scaled.php?server=849&filen ame=imagemozs.jpg&res=medium]Married certificate[/imgs]Here is a part of his married certificate. If somebody need more information send me a mail, Thank you.

Eduardo_MrBThreads: 1 Posts: 6 Joined: Feb 20, 12 ♂	Edited by: Moderator Feb 23, 12, 23:54 #13
edit: help with location and names required.

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Mar 8, 12, 18:15 #14

In certificate it's written that Wacław Włodarski is a son of Józef and Anna (her maiden surname Stefańska);
religion: roman catholic;
Wacław was born 28.02.1916 in Ugły (Polish name of this colony) or Uhły (Ukrainian name);
parish Ugły;
district (powiat) Kostopol
live in Poland in Skierniewice.
Ugły was a colony (something smaller than village) in Stepań (local administrative district), in Kostopol district, in Wołyń. Before World War II this territory belonged to Poland, but after war Stalin changed Polish borders; he seized east part of Poland and joined it to CCCR. Now Wołyń belongs to Ukraine.
During war the Ukrainian Insurgent Army commited ethnic cleansing of Polish population of Wołyń and East Galicja. There were many Polish casualties in Stepań district, so either your grandfather left Ugły before this or he was forced to do that. Anyway he coudn't go back there.
Here you have a map with Ugły colony.
http://wolyn.ovh.org/opisy/ugly-03.html
Unfortunately most internet sites about Ugły or Stepań are about genocide.
Write if you need more help.

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