Need some help with Bublitz family origin.

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Sep 28, 09, 07:08 #1

Ok, there seems to be some confusion with my family history that no one seems to know the answer to. Maybe someone here who knows about Polish history can help me straighten it out. I'm basing all of this on family stories, so there's no telling of the validity. My last name is Bublitz, the story goes that my Great Great Grandparents Frank and Mina came to the US from Bublitz Germany (now Poland) sometime in the later part of the 1800's. They settled in Chicago and had my Great Grandfather Erwin in 1896. At least that's always been the story. Now, I know that during WWI or II when Germany invaded Poland, they renamed some of the provences, Bublitz (I assume) being one of them. Bublitz is in Pomernland and is now Bobolice (Bublitz being the German spelling). It all sounds good, except for the fact that when my family came from Poland there would be no reason it would be called Bublitz. Bobolice maybe, but why the German spelling if it was before the war? This has been bothering me for years and no one seems to have the answers. If anyone can shed some light on this I would really apprecaite it.

caprice49Threads: 4 Posts: 288 Joined: Aug 5, 09 ♀	Sep 28, 09, 12:59 #2
JBublitz: why the German spelling if it was before the war? Pomerania was autonomous in 1933 and possibly for that reason the name was Bublitz. The history of the region is very checkered. Sweden/Branderburg Prussia/Poland/German Empire/Germany and even France held sovereignity at different periods. From 1815 it came under Poland.

JBublitzThreads: 3 Posts: 5 Joined: Sep 26, 09 ♂	Sep 28, 09, 15:29 #3
Ok, that would make sense than that the German and Polish name would be interchangable.

caprice49Threads: 4 Posts: 288 Joined: Aug 5, 09 ♀	Sep 29, 09, 14:51 #4
JBublitz: German and Polish name Unlike the place the surname most likely would have been Bublicz

Werner	Oct 3, 09, 12:24 #5
Hi, my name is Werner Bublitz. !'m born in Pommern. In the City of Bublitz there is an old castle. That's where my ancesters come from. We also have aBublitz coat of arms.

Grzegorz_Threads: 81 Posts: 6,213 Joined: Nov 16, 06 ♂	Oct 3, 09, 14:20 #6
JBublitz: Bobolice maybe, but why the German spelling if it was before the war? This has been bothering me for years and no one seems to have the answers. If anyone can shed some light on this I would really apprecaite it. That town was German before 1945 and your relatives were most probably Gerries...

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Oct 29, 09, 21:00 #7

Bublitz is polish or wendish(pomeranian slavic) surname. Pomeranian slavic are very close to polish pomeranian people so you can say that you are polish mixed with german or german mixed with polish. Pomerania slavic people speak like kaschubians pomeranian slavic languages dialects of polish language. Search germans name and they say that germans names with tz are common polish or czech, pomeranian slavic the same with ke like ssuchke lemke hanke and ....In wikipedia Pomeranian slavs are mentioned as one group with polish tribes called lechites tribes you can say you are polish:D. I read that Pomeranian tribes moved to west germany from Poland (silesia and pomerania-West) in 6th century so here you are...

JBublitzThreads: 3 Posts: 5 Joined: Sep 26, 09 ♂	Edited by: JBublitz Nov 10, 09, 02:45 #8
Thanks everyone for the info, it definatly helps out. Werner, if you get on here again, send me an e-mail, I'd love to hear about your family and learn a little more about the Bublitz's from that area. Krypton_son@yahoo.com

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Edited by: nincompoop_not Nov 10, 09, 04:03 #9

Here is history of Bobolice from their official website.
http://www.bobolice.pl/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&s id=3

The name Bublitz has been recorded officially on 17/04/1320 when they were awarded the town status for the first time.
Although not stricte Polish (there's more history involved) it wasn't also German however, because of its growth as a town, Germans moved to the area.

West Pomerania, where is Bobolice, became part of Brandenburgia (German Principality) in 1648.
If you have anyone who could translate it for you, then you'd know more

And flag and coat of arms of Bobolice from Wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobolice

Currently it's a small town/village.

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Edited by: nincompoop_not Nov 10, 09, 04:21 #10

Plus one more detail:

West Pomerania, where is Bobolice, became part of Brandenburgia (German Principality) in 1648. There is also a history of Jewish community in Bobolice. After the first partition in Poland Prussian king (Fryderyk II) removed 7000 Jews from the region to Poland. The number of Jewish families in Bobolice dropped from around 25 to 6.

Also, another interesting fact from the document below, in 1812 Germans became something what could be called 'Jewish germanisation'. Meaning, they would get the same citizen rights as German citizen IF they change their surnames and names to German, start speaking German and change the clothing/way they dressed to 'European' and had to convert to a christian faith in some cases.
The mass migration, mainly to Germany and both AMericas, from Bobolice and area peaked mid 19th century
These details you'll find here:
http://www.bobolice.pl/zydzi.pdf

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Nov 10, 09, 04:53 #11

Werner:

Hi, my name is Werner Bublitz. !'m born in Pommern. In the City of Bublitz there is an old castle. That's where my ancesters come from. We also have aBublitz coat of arms.

In Bobolice Pomerania there's no castle currently. There is an indication that something was there because it was marked on the 'Lubinus Map' from 1618 but no more details regarding it. The map is exhibited in Braunshweig's Palace in Kolobrzeg.

Owners of Bobolice in XV-XVI century were changing frequently. The village belonged to knighted families of von Massow, Eberstein, Lode i Puttkamer.

However, in the area there are 16 smaller palaces (not in Bobolice) with four of them being listed buildings.

There is a castle in another Bobolice, in Silesia region (south Poland) - http://www.zamkipolskie.com/bobol/bobol.html

JBublitzThreads: 3 Posts: 5 Joined: Sep 26, 09 ♂	Nov 10, 09, 05:22 #12
Wow, I had no idea that website existed. Good to know. There's always been alot of confusion in my family as to the German/Polish history.

alinebublitz

Jul 21, 10, 15:46 #13

Hi! My name is Aline Bublitz, and I'm from Brazil. I've been looking for some history about the Bublitz. This topics helped a lot, 'cause here is very difficult finding somebody else with this last name, and by internet there's amolt nothing. I just know that in 1800's most of them came here and arrived in the Rio Grande do Sul state. I live in Santa Catarina, neighbor of Rio Grande do Sul, and here e have the biggest german colonization.

Thank you!

Polonius3Threads: 1,005 Posts: 4,833 Joined: Apr 11, 08 ♂	Jul 21, 10, 17:35 #14
BUBLIC: this sruname exists in Poland at present whilst Bublicz does not. It calls to mind (to me at least) the famous Russian bread ring бублик (similar to the Polish obwarzanek and Jewish bagel) known from the well-known Russsian song 'Kupiyte bublichki, goriache bublichki..." But this is just my subjective association, and the real etymology is probably quite different.

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Jan 4, 11, 22:21 #15

I am convinced that someone out there knows the answer to this question. My last name is Boblitt spelled numerous ways in the United States (Boblet, Boblett, Bobblett, Boblitt, Boblit, Boblits, Boblets, Boblitz, Baublitz, Baubletz, Bobliz, Boblez, Baublez, Baubliz,and I'm guessing probably Bublitz). For a long time I have been aware of the little town now called Bobolice formerly Bublitz and I have been convinced that my family which traces back to a Jacob Boblitz in 1734 in Philidelphia, Pennsylvania is some how connected to this region of Europe. Can anyone out there help me figure out this mistery. Did any royal families exist in the former Bublitz with the name Bublitz or Boblitz and if so who were their family members? How did the town of Bublitz get it's name? HELP!!!! ANYONE WITH INFORMATION ON THIS TOPIC CAN CONTACT ME AT experienceyourspirit@gmail.com.

Sincerely,
Vickie Boblitt

Polonius3Threads: 1,005 Posts: 4,833 Joined: Apr 11, 08 ♂	Jan 5, 11, 00:13 #16
BUBLIC: less than 2 doz. peope in Poland use this surname whose orginal spelling was probably Bublitz. No-one uses the Bublitz spelling at present. The toponymic explanation tracing the name to Bublitz/Bobolice seems quite plausible.

cyh116	Jun 4, 11, 15:37 #17
we are trying to find where were originated. Says in our ancestry search that our Gruchow married a bublitz but can not find anything on this name. any help would be greatly appreciated. the only reason we believe this is in our ancestry is because at the recorders office they have these two names as parents to one of our relatives.

aboblitt	Jul 6, 11, 16:39 #18
My last name is also Boblitt, in addition to the location in Poland, Boblitz, Germany is also a possible candidate. Boblitz, Germany is a village in the Spreewald area of Germany w w w. boblitz-spreewald.de/

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