Russian labour camp+monte cassino?

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Jan 16, 07, 15:51 #1

Hi,Can anyone help me find any documents about my grandfather.I have recently found out he was in a russian labour camp?How can i find out WHY+what labour camp?He was there untill 1942,he then went to iran,14/8/1942.Then went to monte cassino,Italy,untill 1946. Is it possible to find any information about my grandfather-Leon Pilipczuk and his brother Sergiusz(or spelt sergij) pilipczuk. Where would there mother have gone when they went to russia and Iran then Italy? Any addresses to find things out....please help me,Tessa xx

boloThreads: 4 Posts: 345 Joined: Jul 11, 06 ♂	Jan 18, 07, 00:13 #2
I don't know a lot about genealogy, but I'm sure the surname should be spelled like "Filipczuk" (not "Philipczuk") - that may save you some time to do resarch.

Patrycja19Threads: 76 Posts: 3,877 Joined: Oct 31, 06 ♀	Jan 18, 07, 00:40 #3
feefhs.org/BLITZ/HEREDITARY_NOBILITY.htm Blitz has alot of information on Russian military and Polish . maybe try them.

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Jan 18, 07, 14:21 #4

bolo.My grandfather was POLISH and the poles spell it PILIPCZUK,-that is my surname. I have my grandfathers polish army papers and extracts of birth certificates and it says PILIPCZUK and his mother and brother was also Pilipczuk.He was deported from Poland to Russia and didnt go there by choice so kept his polish surname polish spelling-You are correct,there is different ways of spelling pilipczuk,like ukraine,filipchuk and there is pylypchuk and lots more for different countries, but,as my grandfather and his family were born in POLAND he and his family spelt it PILIPCZUK.Thankyou for reading it and replying though,thanks,Tessa pilipczuk

ps,thankyou both for replying x

babu

Feb 18, 07, 23:19 #5

Hi,

Try this site.

They used to have scanned documents from the Polish Red Cross listing thousands of names of those imprisoned in these camps and where they ended up. I found my father's and Grandmother's name in these scanned documents.

kresy-siberia.org/reference.html

This organization is very active in preserving the memory of those imprisoned and exiled. However, I think that they are now having hard times as all of the galleries and documents are now offline.

Hope it helps.

Jan Przeniczny	Oct 21, 07, 05:27 #6
Try the Sikorski Museum in London google Sikorski Museum London it has now a web site. They can give you all sorts of info. My father and mother went through these camps, and ended up in Iran/Persia as well Jan Przeniczny

maksymThreads: - Posts: 35 Joined: Mar 21, 07 ♂	Oct 25, 07, 07:34 #7
This site is in Polish and has information on those deported to Russia, as well as when and where they were arrested, their age , father's name, and fate. http://www.indeks.karta.org.pl/

MacKinnonThreads: - Posts: 2 Joined: Oct 29, 07 ♂	Oct 29, 07, 20:30 #8
If he fought at casino like my father did, thenthere should be some record of him. I think that Polish Combatants Society (SPK)may help.

celinskiThreads: 83 Posts: 2,800 Joined: Nov 14, 07 ♀	Nov 15, 07, 09:20 #9
Tesse, My Grandfather was in Anders Army in 1942 when the people were granted amnesty. Why we were in Siberia is a book within itself. If you have not joined Kresy-Siberia@ Yahoo groups do so. We have maps, history, lists and a great support.

delythThreads: 1 Posts: 2 Joined: Nov 5, 09 ♀	Nov 10, 09, 19:49 #10
trying to find what happened to jadwiga, stefan, stanislaw and marian wiatr. They were children in area44, camp 21 1940 -1947 siberia. please reply to dme53@hotmail.co.uk.

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Nov 11, 09, 20:01 #11

tessapilipczuk

tessapilipczuk:

Hi,Can anyone help me find any documents about my grandfather.I have recently found out he was in a russian labour camp?..........He was there untill 1942,he then went to iran,14/8/1942.Then went to monte cassino,Italy,untill 1946. Is it possible to find any information about my grandfather-Leon Pilipczuk and his brother Sergiusz(or spelt sergij) pilipczuk.

If fought at Monte Cassino try:-

Ministry of Defence,
APC Polish Enquiries,
Building 28B,
RAF Northolt,
West End Road,
Ruislip,
HA4 6NG,
Tel: 0208 833 8603
Fax: 0208 833 8866
e-mail: polishastdisoff@northolt.raf.mod.uk or polishdisoff@northolt.raf.mod.uk

suebutler79	Dec 12, 09, 20:18 #12
Hi, My Dad who is 87, was also in a Labour/prison camp in Siberia and later served in Polish army in Iran, Iraq and Monte Cassino. I am trying to find out the name of the camp. Dad is not in best health says it was called Uchta Zemlaga, but I can't find any reference to this name on Internet. Can anyone help with the spelling of this name?

WroclawThreads: 74 Posts: 7,275 Joined: Apr 1, 06 ♂ [Moderator]	Dec 13, 09, 00:13 #13
suebutler79: Can anyone help with the spelling of this name? try here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukhta the text mentions forced labour

NathanThreads: 33 Posts: 1,846 Joined: Feb 13, 09 ♂	Dec 13, 09, 01:22 #14
Check these: http://gulagmuseum.org/museums/museum_01/spravka_eng.htm http://www.dtic.mil/dpmo/sovietunion/gulag_study_20020622.pdf I also found some Ukhta labor camp 226/4. Maybe, your grandfather will be able to recall the number. There was also Ukhta-Pechora camp.

henryzab

May 5, 10, 03:42 #15

Does anyone have any information about camps near Asino - near Tomsk in Siberia. My parents and other relatives made it this far as refugees fleeing the Nazi invasion. They were included in the deal to send about 30,000 Polish soldiers and civilians to join the British 8th Army in the middle east. My parents told me there was a gulag next door to the refugee camp. They watched inmates line up for roll call in the morning and even had some contact with some prisoners. The area was known for lumbering and my parents worked on that while they were there. I would appreciate an email - my addy is henryzab@hotmail.com.

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Aug 31, 10, 02:29 #16

Hi Tessa!it is quite impossible to find out what camps your grandafather was.No records were kept in the 2ndPolish Corps in this matter.If your grandfather left Soviet Union inAugust 42 it was definitely soviet ship leaving port KRASNOVODSK on Caspian Sea and arriving to Iranian port Pahlevi.One such ship"Ivan Kaganowitch" left Krasnovods on about August14-16 or about with soldziers and thei nfamilies-if there were any.I was on that ship.We stayed in Pahlevi for some 10-15 days.there were hundredsand hundreds people,ido know how many-men ,wymen and children.From Pahlevi British trucks took us to IRAQ.There are Polish army archives in england and you should contact them,because they should have names of all members of thePolish FOrces.make sure you spell your gradfathers name properly.good luck! Christopher.

Hala.49	Jan 6, 11, 23:55 #17
tessapilipczuk Hi, my father was also in a Russian labour camp, then went to Iran and then to Italy (fought at Monte Cassino, where his best friend Adam, was killed, he was with the British Eighth Army. He finally lived in London where I was born. He died ten years ago. I am still looking for more information on all that happened. If I learn more I will contact you again. Bye, Halina

whisperingkate

Aug 6, 11, 23:27 #18

Hi Tessa,
My grandfather also was sent to a labour camp in siberia and was released during 1942. His name was Mikhail Forgacz and orginally came from Poland. He was taken by the Russians and he was sent to prison for having a rifle which he was repairing (the wooden butt for a neighbour as he was a carpenter by trade). He sadly died a few years ago and was reluctant to speak about anything to do with his time in siberia or his experiences in the war but I would love to know more!!
I will try and have a look at a few of the links above and see what I can find!

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