Slavs are descendants of Sarmatians?

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Edited by: Crow Dec 12, 11, 00:01 #31

Slavs are Sarmatians. Serbians knows as they are last bearers of Sarmatian name that was once universal name of all Slavs.

Serbian imperial Nemanjic house was considered to be from the Dragon line. All symbols that were known as Sarmatian insignia were used by the Nemanjic`s. Let me remind you that we here speak of the ancestral noble house of the Polish St. Jadwiga.

As for the symbols on old original Coat of Arms of the Nemanjic house... there was a Dragon that encircling and protecting the shield with ocila and white eagle (ocila are Serbian version of a Svbastika cross). Dragon itself represented connection of a land and sky. Its a bird and a snake in the same time. If we go one step deeper into the symbolism we coming to the Dragon as a symbol of ancestral white Goddess that was creator of all the life.

You know that i here already mentioned Kosovo battle in 1389 (Serbs vs. Turks) and that creator of the Dragon Order- Voivode Milos Obilic killed Turkish Sultan Murad during the battle but, i actually never told you full story behind that battle, about Serbian military plan and strategy before and during the battle. Even that plan and tactics telling much of a Sarmatian tradition in a Serbian warfare. It is said that Sarmats had best cavalry of the antic times and, it is also known, that Serbians had best cavalry in the world in a middle age. But listen... before the Kosovo battle Serbian commanders agreed that cavarly needs to play major role in a battle that needs to happen. They choosed concentrated charge of winged cavalry, that famous Racowie concept (that later gave Polish winged Hussars and even famous USA cavalry during time of wild west) where riders ride in gallop in a tight knee to knee formation.

Anyway, among else, Serbian commanders underlined that cavalry needs to use same maneuver that Alexander of the Macedon used in the Battle of Gaugamela against Darius of Persia. Meaning, cavalry charge needed to focus on the point in the wall of enemy lines where is confirmed to be position of a enemy leader (Turkish Sultan Murad). They wanted to eliminate Sultan and as events confirms, Turkish Sultan Murad was the only Turkish Sultan that was killed on the battlefield. Voivode Milos Obilic, knight of the Dragon Order (Ordo Dragonis) led the Serbian cavalry charge. Riding in front of his winged cavalry, he himself had helmet in the shape of the Dragon

Serbian Voivode of knights Milos Obilic- true Sarmatian

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Dec 12, 11, 00:33 #32

EM_Wave:

I doubt it. Since Sarmatians were Iranian, I would think that Slavs would have a higher frequency of haplogroup J2 but that's clearly not the case. Maybe there was some mixing with Sarmatians, but it couldn't have been too significant.

It is common to think they are Iranian, they are not from Persia (Iran) they are just north of Persia, possibly the northernest parts of the Persian empire.
Jatts also have Sarmatians blood.
They traveled 2000 years ago east. To Pakistan/ India.
Jatts are the least to indulge in other cultures from the Sarmatians except after Sikhism, but I know little that do not consider themselves Jatts still, if they truly are.

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Dec 12, 11, 12:08 #33

sascha:

isthatu2:
blackadder: I suppose Sir Lancelot was horny Croat that ?))&%$# his wife.Merlin was Albanian witch-king.Don't ask him about Luke Skywalker please...
Classic :)

bs. proven by posters.

this is what wiki has about it. why dont we ask crow about that. if i remember well he's expert on this topic.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarmatians

Batman is a Serb,too.He wears medieval house nemanjic insignia on his chest,legendary bat-dragon.Count Dracula too,he 's cousin of Batman through Romanian dragons we all know existed in mountains of Transylvania.True story...Which leads us to Superman,he's got high contrentracion of Haplogroup J2 due to intense consumation of special serbian goat milk which made them superior to other nations.
First terrorist ever was a Serb,he killed Franz Ferdinand which started WW1.

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Dec 12, 11, 13:44 #34

blackadder:

First terrorist ever was a Serb,he killed Franz Ferdinand which started WW1.

expected.

blackadder:

Batman is a Serb,too.He wears medieval house nemanjic insignia on his chest,legendary bat-dragon.Count Dracula too,he 's cousin of Batman through Romanian dragons we all know existed in mountains of Transylvania.True story...Which leads us to Superman,he's got high contrentracion of Haplogroup J2 due to intense consumation of special serbian goat milk which made them superior to other nations.

schlechter witz, bad joke mein lieber kroate.

i really have no clue why your people are still full of complexes when it comes to the topic serbs. my advise is to put the ball down and remember whom you are talking to. your thankfulness towards germany should always be visible.
btw, the anschluss of cro to eu is one of the biggest presents ger gave you. again moment for your thankfulness.

my advise is, put your complexes aside and see what you can do with life. that in every spot serbs have more backbone than you is a fact. you treuly remind me of the other kroate here, el croate. he babbled the same bs like you.

at the end, your just boring.

guten tag noch und frohe weihnachten

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Dec 12, 11, 14:47 #35

sascha:

i really have no clue why your people are still full of complexes when it comes to the topic serbs. my advise is to put the ball down and remember whom you are talking to. your thankfulness towards germany should always be visible.
btw, the anschluss of cro to eu is one of the biggest presents ger gave you. again moment for your thankfulness.

my advise is, put your complexes aside and see what you can do with life. that in every spot serbs have more backbone than you is a fact. you treuly remind me of the other kroate here, el croate. he babbled the same bs like you.

at the end, your just boring.

guten tag noch und frohe weihnachten

Sascha your complexes are clearly visible,and you are gone offtopic so I won't bother to read your reply ;)
Gastarbeiters...You gotta love them

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Dec 12, 11, 16:29 #36

blackadder:

Sascha your complexes are clearly visible,and you are gone offtopic so I won't bother to read your reply ;)

me complexes? off topic? i have no clue dude what you are talking about, but rationalization is a good method to avoid the truth.
as i said, frohe weihnachten kroate.

blackadder:

Gastarbeiters...You gotta love them

yeah, especially before christmas. they'll have their hands full to serve. ;)

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Dec 12, 11, 16:52 #37

sascha:

me complexes? off topic? i have no clue dude what you are talking about, but rationalization is a good method to avoid the truth.
as i said, frohe weihnachten kroate.

Feeling superior my friend?
Calm down dude...take your steroids...everything's gonna be just fine.And stop writing on your language,I don't understand it.

About this topic...[/i]I personally think there is something racist about measuring Haplogroups and bragging with it on forum without even knowing which group you belong.Some people feel they're not appreciated so they search for glorious and divine ancestors.
Most of central european people have similar DNA,and since we don't live on Madagascar we are all mixed up.

Crow:
Slavs are Sarmatians. Serbians knows as they are last bearers of Sarmatian name that was once universal name of all Slavs.

You are all serbs,accept it lol

Crow:
it is also known, that Serbians had best cavalry in the[i] world i[b][/b]n a middle age.

Yeah,we saw it on Kosovo battle...What about famous French,Spanish,English,Polish,Hungarian,Mongol,Ottoman,Knights Hospitallers,Egyptian etc etc?Never heard of it?Of course you did but you pretend they didn't exist.
Some scientists in Croatia thinks we are Goths or Sarmatians,Alans etc...I think it's bs,we mixed with local Illyrian populace and now we formed central european nation not different than others.Same with Czechs Serbs and Polish.

FlaglessPoleThreads: 7 Posts: 1,394 Joined: Aug 19, 10 ♂	Dec 12, 11, 17:12 #38
blackadder: And stop writing on your language,I don't understand it. oh c'mon give him some slack, he needs to practice... and what better place to it do than on an English language forum...

rockThreads: 6 Posts: 1,492 Joined: Jun 13, 08 ♂	Dec 12, 11, 17:18 #39
Sascha you are possibly the son of a serbian worker in Germany and now you call yourself German.

blackadderThreads: 4 Posts: 403 Joined: Jun 28, 07 ♂	Dec 12, 11, 17:42 #40
FlaglessPole: oh c'mon give him some slack, he needs to practice... and what better place to it do than on an English language forum... Yeah guys youu're right, he's so quick to defend his Sarmatian/Scordisci Celt /Aryan/Winged cavalryman/True Westerner/''Serbs were before amoebas'' friend Maybe you become Sarmatian when you eat Sarma? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarma_%28food%29

rockThreads: 6 Posts: 1,492 Joined: Jun 13, 08 ♂	Edited by: rock Dec 12, 11, 17:50 #41
Blackadder, I will really it sarma tonight :)) The one with lemons in the link. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarma_(food)

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Dec 12, 11, 17:59 #42

rock:

Blackadder, I will really it sarma tonight :))

Now you are Sarmatian too!Congrats!
I had it last Saturday on friend's wedding.Is Turkish recipe different than Croatian?
50 g (0.5 lb) ground beef
250 g (0.5 lb) ground pork
100 g (3.5 oz) smoked bacon, chopped
1 onion, chopped
50 g (1.7 oz) rice
salt, pepper
2 tsp paprika
a pinch of nutmeg
3-4 garlic cloves, minced
2 eggs
1 large head soured cabbage
500 g (1 lb) Sauerkraut (chopped soured cabbage)
250 g (0.5 lb) smoked pork ribs
smoked meat: smoked ham, smoked sausages, smoked bacon…
1 cup tomato juice

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Dec 12, 11, 18:09 #43

SEE DELICIOUS ''YAPRAK SARMA''

http://www.google.com.tr/search?q=yaprak+sarmas%C4%B1&hl=tr&rlz=1R2ADR A_trTR426&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=2DTmToqGHszxsg bYuOi5CQ&sqi=2&ved=0CCcQsAQ&biw=1366&bih=518

Here is Turkish recipe:

Grapes leaves (Fresh or canned/jarred)

For the stuffing
Olive oil (of course!) (3/4 cup)
Rice (measure 1 tbsp for 2 sarma’s)
Onions (1)
Tomato (1)
Pine nuts (2 tbsp)
Parsley
Cinnamon (1 tsp)
Allspice (1 tsp)
Currants (1 tbsp) (Optional)
Mint (dried or fresh) (Optional)
Dill (Optional)
Sugar (1 tsp) (Optional)
Lemon juice (2 tbsp)
Salt and pepper to taste

blackadderThreads: 4 Posts: 403 Joined: Jun 28, 07 ♂	Edited by: Moderator Dec 12, 11, 18:13 #44
Wow so much spices...nice touch with olive oil.My wife says she like recipe(she hates meat) and she will try to make me Yaprak sarma. Printing... When I want a menu, I'll go to the food threads. Back to topic, please.

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Edited by: cheesymac Dec 12, 11, 19:52 #45

http://greek-gods.tripod.com/Scythians.htm
In times of Herodot to the east from Don Sarmatians lived. According to a legend transferred by Herodot, they have descended from the Amazon who have married Scythian young men. This legend reflects high position of women at Sarmatian society. Despite of obvious relationship of given peoples, Sarmatians always found out hostility in relation to Scythians, and they posses a main role in route of the last.

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