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The surname Celinski and resources for Galician roots

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Oct 22, 07, 23:27 #1

What's up. I've been compiling records of my family's history on the Polish side. I'm first and foremost an American with many Eastern European roots. I have Polish and Irish on my father's side and Ukranian and Hungarian on my mother's. My mother's side came from Galicia, White Russia and historical Hungarian territory which is now in Slovakia.

Obviously, my father's name is Celinski. It comes from zielony- green, etc. The problem is pinpointing a more accurate area. My grandfather was very silent about his past (both grandfathers were), and both have since passed away. My great grandfather's name was Benjamin, which seems to me unusual for a Polish name. We have pinpointed areas around Krakow, perhaps in Galicia as well.

Any resources to find out history of the name Celinski and what area that family originated?

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Oct 22, 07, 23:40 #2

[quote=BrettCelinski] Any resources to find out history of the name Celinski and what area that family originated?

brett

a good source to find is the WWI drafts on ancestry.com
or baptismal records ( depending on which city/church) would sometimes
if your lucky.. record the Place of parents birth ( actual place) and not state
just Poland or Poland/russia etc.

what records have you searched in the states so far?

ggeorgeThreads: 1 Posts: 2 Joined: Oct 18, 07 ♀	Oct 26, 07, 08:59 #3
My great grandfather's name was Benjamin also, and he was from Poland. Try Boniface, Bonifacy, etc. I found him by accident on a WWI Draft Registration.

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Edited by: Rakky Oct 26, 07, 09:22 #4

Quoting: BrettCelinski

Ukranian and Hungarian on my mother's. My mother's side came from Galicia, White Russia and historical Hungarian territory which is now in Slovakia

You may be Carpatho-Rusyn on your mother's side. "White Russian" is a common way to refer to these people. Have you ever heard the term Lemko, Boyko or Hutsul used with regard to her? If so, she's certainly Carpatho-Rusyn. Galicia was full of them. For more info, start with www.c-rs.org and www.lemko.org.
Did they come in through Ellis Island? If so and you have not yet searched the Ellis Island records, do so. Try as many different spellings for your grandparents' names as you can think of. My grandfather's name was spelled differently in the old country, so it took a while to find it, but I eventually did.

Grzegorz_Threads: 80 Posts: 6,104 Joined: Nov 16, 06 ♂	Oct 26, 07, 09:28 #5
Quoting: BrettCelinski Celinski Celiński- 4200 people in Poland, so unless you have more information, It will be very hard to find right people.

Grzegorz_Threads: 80 Posts: 6,104 Joined: Nov 16, 06 ♂	Oct 26, 07, 09:29 #6
Quoting: Rakky "White Russian" is a common way to refer to these people. Not really. At least not in modern Polish. "White Russian" mean Belorussians - people from Belarus.

celinski	Nov 13, 07, 16:08 #7
My Celinski family comes from Olszewnica/Ulan Polska. My Grandfather is Czeslaw Celinski born in 1900, Gr Grandfather Edward born 1875 in Ulan, Polska, Gr Gr Grandfather Andrzej. Any relations?

BrettCelinskiThreads: 1 Posts: 8 Joined: Oct 22, 07 ♂	Oct 4, 09, 19:55 #8
Woah... this is a very old topic but I'm back, haha. Mods can lock this and I can start a new topic if necrobumping is discouraged. I have been checking out Rakky's links.

PolskaDollThreads: 44 Posts: 4,134 Joined: Jun 15, 07 ♀	Oct 4, 09, 20:19 #9
BrettCelinski: Mods can lock this and I can start a new topic if necrobumping is discouraged. Welcome back :) If new posts are relevant to this thread then there's no need to start a new thread. Better to have all the information together.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,160 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Edited by: Seanus Oct 4, 09, 20:31 #10
There was a poster called Celinski on this forum. She also had Ukrainian connections. She was from South Connecticut I think

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Oct 4, 09, 21:27 #11

I will refrain for now by posting what research I've done for personal and privacy reasons. I may share them later maybe.

And yes, I am now certain that my mother's side was of Rusyn descent. Chilensky and Kocis are the names of my Grandmother's side; they were from Rimavska Sobota in Slovakia (back then it was called Rimaszombat, it's Hungarian name, and was part of Austria Hungary). Chilensky is obviously Slovak and Kocis is Hungarian. I am trying now to check those records but it is harder with language barrier.

My Grandmother married the late William Hlusko (died 1998), who was of Rusyn heritage. He had ancestors from Galicia and were most certainly from the Rusyn villages there; only question is the specific villages.

I have had much more luck with my mother's side of things; there is also additional information for me before I started, as my mother's cousin's side of the family has a family tree. My mother's cousin married a man of Jewish descent and their family tree has plenty of information on the Chilensky side. I also have plenty of amazing information of their service in WWII as well.

The Irish side of my father's family is also well documented. The problem remains in finding the history of the Polish side!

But I am certain the information is there in such a quality and content that is higher than I thought it could be. I am glad a forum like this exists that can understand what I am trying to do. Thanks!

Polonius3Threads: 963 Posts: 4,551 Joined: Apr 11, 08 ♂	Oct 31, 09, 23:22 #12
This is a surname of toponymic origin traceable to at least 10 localities in Poland called Celiny. It probably was derived from the feminine name Celina (Cecilia), so we 'might trnalsate it as Ceciliaville. One of them is in the Lublin region whcih is closest to the Ruthenian area you mentioned.

RakkyThreads: 10 Posts: 284 Joined: May 23, 07 ♂	Nov 2, 09, 13:57 #13
BrettCelinski: I am now certain that my mother's side was of Rusyn descent Welcome to the Rusyn community! If you'd like recommendations for the 3 genealogists I know who may be able to help you with your research, let me know. One is Polish, one is Rusyn, and one is American. Celinski is not a far cry from the name of my grandfather's home village, Wola Cieklinska.

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Nov 2, 09, 14:08 #14

Polonius3:

This is a surname of toponymic origin traceable to at least 10 localities in Poland called Celiny. It probably was derived from the feminine name Celina (Cecilia), so we 'might trnalsate it as Ceciliaville.

It might or might not be also related to the word "celina"=virgin land/soil. In my book it has obvious origins of ploughman/tiller. Good luck in your investigation!
Sean made a good point too. Contact Mrs. Celinski here on forum. Even though she's somewhat of obssessed with Stalin she's a nice lady and will help you.

lchilensky	May 2, 10, 21:41 #15
Hello, I believe you may be part of my family tree. I am trying to research my tree a little better. My father was Frank Chilensky III, he passed last year along with most of my info on my lineage. I would be very intrested in any info you can pass along. Thank you.

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Jul 21, 10, 01:08 #16

Hey there everyone, I'm back again.

Life has been busy but once more I return to my work of uncovering the past of my family and heritage.

I have less of a question regarding the original topic and more to do with this: could anybody lead me to good sources or sites in order to find out information on families in Rimavska Sobota (Rimaszombat) and Hlusko in Galicia?

I will definitely be interested in contacting the user Rakky as this user graciously offered to help last year.

plk123Threads: 30 Posts: 6,410 Joined: Aug 29, 07 ♂	Edited by: plk123 Jul 21, 10, 01:40 #17
hey, did you ever talk to this PF member? celinski

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