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Szczebrzeszynie, family name Tzitron.

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noanit	Edited by: Administrator Dec 11, 11, 23:02 #1
my name is Noa, and i m from israel..i started looking up my family's history and i saw that my grandfather was born in a small town called-Szczebrzeszynie, is there someone here then knows it? and can help me track down family members that are left there maybe? it can be interesting! thanks you last name is tzitron

Zman	Dec 11, 11, 23:25 #2
It's: Szczebrzeszyn. Google it to find out what it is famous for all over Poland :-). Tzitron must be Citron, by the way.

Polonius3Threads: 1,005 Posts: 4,833 Joined: Apr 11, 08 ♂	Dec 11, 11, 23:27 #3
CYTRON: from the German word for lemon Zitrone. Only some 15 users left, 11 of them in Upper Sielsia (Katowice region). Szczebrzeszyn is famous for the saying: W Szczebrzeszynie chrząszcz brzmi w trzcinie. It is a nonsense phrase meaning 'In Szczebrzeszyn a beetle is buzzing in the reeds', but it is said to be the hardest to pronoucne for non-Poles.

Zman	Dec 11, 11, 23:51 #4
Nonsense phrase? Somehow for us in Poland that phrase makes all the sense! And it rhymes well too!

Polonius3Threads: 1,005 Posts: 4,833 Joined: Apr 11, 08 ♂	Dec 12, 11, 23:15 #5
By nonsense phrase is meant that it does not convey some vital truth or clarify anything. It was chosen solely to illustrate the difficulties many foriegners have with hissing-shishing Polish pronunciation. 'Nie pieprz, Pietrze, wieprza pieprzem...' is another well-known Polish tongue-twister..

Zman	Dec 13, 11, 00:37 #6
I beg to differ.... this saying conveys a clear message to me. And the other as well.

rybnikThreads: 29 Posts: 1,232 Joined: Jan 16, 11 ♂	Dec 13, 11, 00:56 #7
Polonius3: It was chosen solely to illustrate the difficulties many foriegners have with hissing-shishing Polish pronunciation It's also tough for native speakers ;)

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