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 Oct 29, 07, 12:29    #61
Nikta Im very sure you're not an ugly dork... no matter where you were born. Possibly there is some truth in becoming 'Americanised', but I think you should celebrate your differences as thats part of what makes you special and unique. If anything, I'm jealous of anyone with visible Polish heritage as my Polish friends and my boyfriend are all gorgeous.

As for being able to guess nationalities, come visit London, we'll go to a bar, and pick ten random people and I'll guess their nationalities; for each one I get wrong, I'll buy you a drink, and each one I get right, you can buy me one :) Hopefully you'll leave being proud of any Polishness in your appearance

queenlush  Nov 9, 07, 14:35    #62
Hi your post really amused me . You have said what i always wondered. Both my parents were polish but i was born in the uk, my mother small and dark haired, my father tall and blond. I always wondered if i looked foreign. my husband who is english reckons i do but when i tell new friends my ancestry they are very surprised. I am 5' 6" very blonde hair very blue eyes and luckily have the high cheekbones (hidden under fat lol) i also am sturdily built i will be never a size zero but have the typical hour glass figure of bust waist and child bearing hips.
queenlush  Nov 9, 07, 14:39    #63
by the way a diet of pirogi vodka and krufka dont help...........polish people are gorgeous
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 Nov 10, 07, 03:31    #64
Quoting: Liza
As for being able to guess nationalities, come visit London, we'll go to a bar, and pick ten random people and I'll guess their nationalities;

i can do that too, but its not only about their looks is it, its also down to their dress sense and accent.
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 Nov 10, 07, 04:42    #65
you people are some kind of race freaks...

in today's europe, you will not find any nation racially homogenous...for 1000's of years people in europe have been mixing...
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 Nov 10, 07, 05:02    #66
Quoting: sapphire

Quoting: Liza
As for being able to guess nationalities, come visit London, we'll go to a bar, and pick ten random people and I'll guess their nationalities;

i can do that too, but its not only about their looks is it, its also down to their dress sense and accent.


Its definitely their clothing, but not always their accent... I sometimes drive around with my boss and for entertainment I'll spot people walking along and try and guess their nationality. I love that even though we're all human, there are so many different varieties of race and appearances. Possibly thats the attraction of identical twins, triplets etc; we're used to seeing everyone as individuals so to see mirror images of people is amazing.

Sometimes I like to think what attributes a child would inherit from myself and my partner. I suspect s/he would be short (I'm 159cm and he's 161cm) but would s/he have my eyes, or his? His build or mine? etc Its a nice thing to imagine sometimes (although I have no desire to find out yet!)
Daniel U  Nov 12, 07, 23:18    #67
Hi all,

Firstly, I was delighted in finding this forum yesterday and I find most posts informative and well thought out.

I have also pondered the question of whether there is a Polish look - my father is Polish and my mother is Croatian. We are descended from the Tatars. I still have a slight 'slant' to my eyelids, which was very prominent when I was young. Old photos of dad's family have similar characteristics. On several occasions I have been picked as a Pole by complete strangers. I have been mistaken for the brother of a cricketer of Polish descent. I take it then that my features can be considered "Polish" if that can be said.

In my view (empirical) certain characteristics can be ascribed generally. Strangely, I reckon a flat back of the head from the nape to the crown is usually indicative. Look at profile photos, particularly from WW2. In many cases, full lips and high cheekbones are also indicative, as are small, swept back ears and high foreheads. I have no idea when it comes to body type though.

Of course, the look will be determined by genealogy, but wouldn't a study of features be fascinating that traced persons who had available a known gene pool and historic paintings/photos. Cheers
Ebi  Nov 13, 07, 17:00    #68
HELLO, my name Euzebiusz and i am in Wroclaw.

I came across forum today, and it is very good! interesting subject. i am quite dark, with green eyes, and a small build with strong shoulders. my friends call me MUZYN, but i do not like the name. do you think I am Tartar??? My family all looks very white, blonde!

Could anyone answer and know?
Thank you girls and guys!
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 Nov 13, 07, 18:46    #69
From my observations polish girls look far more similar to each other than girls from other slavic ethnicities.It is easy to tell them apart.I also believe that mix with other ethnicities in Poland was very restricted(I do not know why) in comparison to what happened in other slavic countries.That is why I am sure gene diversity in polish population is limited and most Poles share the same genes.
Maybe the evolution promoted the survival of the fittest and most beautiful girls who know comprise the bulk of polish girls.
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 Nov 13, 07, 21:13    #70
Quoting: Ebi
do you think I am Tartar???

No, you're a murzyn.
Ebi  Nov 13, 07, 21:21    #71
Why do laugh? i ask serious question!
Easternslav  Dec 4, 07, 21:45    #72
Quoting: witek
it is people of Polish descent NOT Polish descended people


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Time to correct you......I am of russian blood...an eastern slav, that now lives in america. The picture you post looks like many people I see in western Europe as well as America..I take it you don't travel as often as i do, or you would notice the obesity in europe...and South Africa...and Middle East.

Also, i am sensitive to the fact many of my friends around the world suffer from Hypothyroid disorder. In other words, they gained 10-30 kilos in a month because their metabolism and body temperature was that of a dead person. Do you know that even after 2-3 years, some of them are still having their doctors adjust medications to try and get their bodies to work correctly. And it depresses them extremelly. I am an emotional person, so I feel offended by that picture because I know how that would make my friends with hypothyroid disorder feel. imagine...eating nothing every day and not being able to lose any weight.

As far as Russia, if you think there are no obese people there...maybe you should come there and visit one time.
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 Dec 4, 07, 22:28    #73
Quoting: Easternslav
Time to correct you......I am of russian blood...an eastern slav, that now lives in america


they let Russians post on this site?

things are getting out of hand



jlr  Feb 17, 08, 09:48    #74
How funny...I found this page researching Tartar facial features.

I am American. My grandfather on my mother's side came over from Lithuania in the 1880s. My great-grandfather on my father's side came over from a tiny town right on the Poland-Russia border in the 1890s. Here in NY we have large Lithuania, Russian and Polish communities, but only the Russians seem to see something familiar in my face. I've been on the subway several times only to have a Russian ex-pat come up to me and start asking me questions in Russian. That's never happened with folks from Lithuania or Poland.

And when I travelled in Russia a few years ago, not only did I feel like I "fit in" completely, but people would just start talking to me, not realizing I wasn't local. It was fun and kind of sweet, knowing that whatever my life is like here in NY (I'm a journalist and photographer), my DNA still comes from somewhere else far, far away, and I could have a connection to that place whenever I want it.
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 Feb 17, 08, 13:41    #75
jlr wrote:
Tartar facial features.


theres a girl I work with and I swear she is of that group. she is dark and claims all
Polish.. last name is Polish too..
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 Feb 17, 08, 13:49    #76
I'm wondering if I have Tatar ancestry down the road. I put two of my pictures on a website which shows which celebrities you resemble. On both pics I got almost all Asian celebrities.
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Edited by: JuliePotocka  Feb 21, 08, 11:47    #77
Easternslav is correct - hypothyroidism is rampant in many families, and in my mother's side.
Part of the issue is that they treat Hypothyroidism on a BELLCURVE, since the '70s. Before that, they'd give you the dessicated thyroid until you felt better. Today's dosage is at least half of what it was, out of fear of causing heart attacks; it never caused them! This single lack of proper treatment I believe has contributed to morbid obesity, Fibromyalgia, CFS, and created a way for the drug companies to make BILLIONS of bucks per year.

How much does it cost if you treat it yourself, with dessicated thyroid each month? $20!

I have the light olive skin, btw, unless I choose to obtain a suntan. After seeing girls in their 20s turn into wrinkled old ladies within a few years, I chose to stop tanning, and pleased with that simple life change, along with using sunblock.

I also have dark brown hair, 5'6" tall, with slim build, but busty. Many of my friends from Hungary and Poland seem to be naturally top heavy, so mostly separates when purchasing clothes. Brooches are a girl's best friend, too!
johanguy  Apr 11, 08, 17:29    #78
Actually, there is a bit of bogus information floating around here.

Generally speaking, Slavic peoples tend to be fairer complexioned than Germanic peoples. Records dating from the 6th century onwards, written by Arab merchants traveling throughout Europe, that make particular note of the prevalence of blondism, fair skin and blue (and green) eyes among the Slavs. This was probably one reason why Slavs were captured and used as servants in places such as Moorish Spain. This isn't, of course, Slavs don't have a natural tan skin tone (where natural tan is a step above fair). However, Germanic peoples have a higher prevalence of dark features (hair, eyes, skin, sometimes described as swarthy). In fact, this was one reason why Benjamin Franklin wanted to restrict German immigration to the US. Almost all of Europe, though, save for the southernmost and northernmost parts where skin tone is darker, fall within 1-10 on the von Luschan scale.

DaveInCal, basing your conclusion on the fact that the last five Miss Polonias were brunettes is erroneous. Many things factor into who is selected: the current fashion (brown-eyed brunettes are in fashion now; take the Brazilians as an example), what is considered more exotic in a given country (I'm not Polish, but when I visit my wife's family, they are always fascinated with my very dark eyes, precisely because they are unusual. Oddly enough, my wife's big blue eyes are what caught my attention first, even though in Poland she received no particular compliments for them, since over there, they are a dime a dozen).

Liza, Swedes don't age very well. I offer my mother's side as an example.

queenlush, I am not sure why your friends were surprised. Those characteristics are quite common in Poland, where women tend to have high cheekbones (and men tend to have chiseled faces). Didn't you know the Brits travel to Krakow for the slender long legs and torsos? That and because you don't have to take out a mortgage to pig out on beer and vodka like you do in London.
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Edited by: southern  Apr 11, 08, 18:36    #79
Colour is not important.For example the Finns are far lighter than the Hungarians although they have common ancestry.This is because the Finns migrated to the North where the sun shines less.
What is important is the facial characteristics like nose shape and analogy to face,cheeks,frontal bones of splachnic cranium etc and the body characteristics like waist to hip ratio,length of legs etc.
All these folllow a common pattern in slavic folks while the colour differs,that is Serbs are for sure darker than Poles because the sun shines more in Serbia than in Poland,however all other features carry a great resemblance and you will see it in praxis when you try to differentiate the serbian from the polish girls.You will be surprised in many occasions except when you meet the typical polish face which is prevalent only in Poland and some areas of western Ukraine.
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 Apr 11, 08, 19:16    #80
The Finns and Hungarians don't have very much common ancestry.
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 Apr 11, 08, 19:35    #81
Even Poland is geographically closer to Finland than Hungary
blade  May 8, 08, 13:19    #82
Clearly you are mentally retarded. Poland has fast food, but they wont become fat whales like U.S. women. That would only happen if they adopt full blown feminism or full blown islam which both promote fat acceptance and ugly women.
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 May 8, 08, 13:21    #83
blade:
but they wont become fat whales like U.S. women


i wouldnt be too sure of that, theres a lot more porkers wobbling round poland today than a few more years ago
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 May 8, 08, 13:22    #84
witek:
polish girls aren't bad either



And here I was, hoping...

Kev
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Edited by: Kasia84  May 8, 08, 13:38    #85
From my experience and my family...that I know my mom, my grandmothers, female cousins, friends most of them got puffy cheeks, their cheek bone, round or heart shape face, usually dimples (I know I have 'em), dark to light hair, almond eye shape, peachy to milky skin colour, roundish-squishy? type of nose...(most people think I look Polish because of my face shape, puffy cheeks, dimples, my almond eye shape, cheek bone...etc)

I can spot a Polish person easily on a street (I guess I just have a strong gut feeling, she must be Polish or he must be Polish, there just something about their face)

Men? my brother had white blonde hair when he was little now dark blonde hair. Men in my family are average height to tall (I have about 80% of my male cousins that are over 6' foot tall), they don't age, my dad is about 50; he look most at 40...men look younger (well in my family I guess).
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 May 8, 08, 13:48    #86
Catherine1011:
Now onto the features I notice thats its either a very sqaure face with big, beautiful, high cheekbones, or an slender heart face with the very pointy high cheekbones. The eyes shape tends to be lovley almond shape, and the lips full and unusual shape the upper lip bigger than the lower lip. Which nice gives it distinction. The nose is either many times nice defintley high bridged nose with globular round tip and rather large nostrils or a small very, very thin, medium, to high bridged nose with narrow nostrils.



R u a plastic surgeon?
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 May 8, 08, 15:09    #87
Patrycja19:
Catherine1011:
Now onto the features I notice thats its either a very sqaure face with big, beautiful, high cheekbones, or an slender heart face with the very pointy high cheekbones. The eyes shape tends to be lovley almond shape, and the lips full and unusual shape the upper lip bigger than the lower lip. Which nice gives it distinction. The nose is either many times nice defintley high bridged nose with globular round tip and rather large nostrils or a small very, very thin, medium, to high bridged nose with narrow nostrils.


Yeah...they look all the same to me....like twins (what an example on high cheekbones and heart shaped faces!!!) :)
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Edited by: Kev A  May 13, 08, 17:24    #88
queenlush:
Hi your post really amused me . You have said what i always wondered. Both my parents were polish but i was born in the uk, my mother small and dark haired, my father tall and blond. I always wondered if i looked foreign. my husband who is english reckons i do but when i tell new friends my ancestry they are very surprised. I am 5' 6" very blonde hair very blue eyes and luckily have the high cheekbones (hidden under fat lol) i also am sturdily built i will be never a size zero but have the typical hour glass figure of bust waist and child bearing hips.



Oh Heavens, what refreshing honesty, screw what you look like or what you think you look like, there is obviously a lot of beauty within..

Kev
AmericanDanzigg  May 28, 08, 11:24    #89
I live in Poland temporarily now and with regards to the "dorky polish look" I would more or less blame the mismatched colors clothing and uneven bangs and baaad haircuts, and everyone dying their hair black and trying to make up for their goth-pale features by overtanning. The fashion is the ugliest its been in years. lol. Toomuch brown tones and puke greens. Talk about one with nature. With regards to figure, you'll find more women with an 8 year olds figure than you find in North America. A Child from the back(body), a museum in front (face). And way too much red or bright orange hair on older women. And when they gain weight, its all their upper figure that gains the weight and their waist and legs stay slim, unlike the pear shaped figure of north america with slim small shoulders and a huge waist and butt. And yes, hypothyroidism sucks and is ALSO very prominent in Poland, but it usually affects the older women, while in North America, even teenagers can find themselves in that trap. Generally i think that they have beautiful distinct features, but put in extra work to come out looking...well quite bland and indistinct and of course to blend in with nature.

And of course im GTFO here next month. I stick out too much for getting even haircuts and wearing colors like blue red and purple
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Edited by: JohnP  May 29, 08, 20:25    #90
I think there's a huge amount of misinformation going around, both about Americans as well as Europeans. That photo posted above is an example. It shows one woman who does not know how to buy clothes that fit, and displaying her underwear-and another who is obese, sitting at a picnic table. Nothing in the photo, other than someone's caption, tells one where these women are from. I have seen examples of both and not just in the US. Witek, have you ever been to the U.S.? I somehow doubt it. Or perhaps you went to the wrong part of the country. There are certain ethnicities which prize large women and it is no surprise that the women in those areas aim to please. Just my observation. Other than the signs, and larger less walking-friendly cities, you would likely not find the 2/3 overweight number you quoted. Someone once said 83.53% of all statistics are made up. Chances are in most major US cities, other than more ethnicities, you would be poorly disappointed looking for that imaginary overweight majority. There are some out there, but not like you seem to believe. Visit San Diego some day. Some of the hottest women anywhere in the world. Yes, I'm sure some of them are descended from Poland, as well as elsewhere-America *IS* a melting pot, after all....LA. Even near me, visit Virginia Beach.
While I am in the armed forces and there are height/weight/bodyfat% standards, seeing fit people elsewhere is not at all an exception. Honestly, I think Isthatu hit close to the mark. America's medical schools are too tied into the pharmaceutical companies, and they want DESPERATELY to sell you a prohibitively expensive drug which will treat (not cure) you from whatever condition they want you to think you have. The television is clogged with commercials claiming such "facts" as the 2/3 number you mention-when in fact they haven't really researched this. They just want you to buy their diet pills. So they keep dropping hints that you are "fat" or a "little overweight". Next thing you know, women (and men) watching these start thinking, well, I don't have ripped abs and 24" biceps, I must be a fat slob. So when they fill out surveys/online profiles, etc etc they say "a few extra pounds" or "a little overweight" because, even at 19, they *believe* that 5'5" and 100lb is "overweight".

As to some of the ones who really are, some do have hypothyroidism, but I agree with others especially wrt children, there is a lot of this culture of drugging the life out of them. Because, in most states in the U.S. they have made it a cultural faux pas to allow children to play outside. OMG someone might STEAL you. They make huge news stories about kidnapped children, and so Mom locks her kids inside with a video game, and wonders why they are getting fatter. They are antsy at school, because schools "punish" for poor academic performance by cancelling PE, and it's a vicious cycle.
Let them outside, and spend the time with them.
Others who have true genetic and medical issues, should be easier to help once the system isn't burdened with kids who actually have nothing wrong with them...

Sorry for the rant folks


John P.


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