Polish blood only makes up 1% of your "Polishness"

Yeah well all I know is I am blonde and people do ask where I am from and ask if I am Polish. So I fall into the expected looking Polish person lol

That's interesting. They probably don't ask that because of your blonde hair though. In the States, when people think of blonde hair, they think of countries like Sweden, Norway, Denmark, etc..

Well I havemy polish last name also endng in ski :p maybe that gains me 5 points lol

I just want to tell you that no matter what , you do what you feel is right, unfortunately, in any public forum, if you say something, you will get a reply and it wont always be what you want to hear, but lets just take a moment to understand, you live in America, so you are American with Polish ancestry, I think thats why you get the negative, because in explaining, your family and where you came from is Poland, but your not officially Polish ( citizen) but you can be.

Maybe that makes people jealous and they have to reply like they do, but pay no attention to it, because its a bunch of supposed to be grown ups acting like children over something they can simply explain better instead of getting argumentive.

I have heard it over and over and over and let me say its like the same old book over and over and predictable as well.

but I would suggest if you want to have clarification, and its a cool way to find out is thru the DNA.. I did it, but they have different websites that have some really good testing.

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He will never be Polish. He might become a citizen of Poland but never become a Pole.

None of the PF expats are or will ever be Polish even if they have 4 or 5 Polish passports apiece. Polishness is not some bureaucratic scrap of paper or plastic card. It is in the genes and blood. It is genetic, spritual, cultural, lingusitic and religious all in one.You either feel it or you don't.

The halting Polish of most expats wannabes is laughable.

Amen. Exactly, it's what you feel that counts not the paper, paper will not change that American, he still thinks American (western) way and he will never be for Poland with all his soul. To be really Polish you have to feel all the way Polish, you have to have strong sentiment towards Poland, at least stronger than towards any other nation. You have to go to sleep seeing yourself as Polish, it has to be a subconscious thought, without forcing yourself, it has to be happening naturally.

" Polishness is not some bureaucratic scrap of paper or plastic card. It is in the genes and blood. It is genetic, spritual, cultural, lingusitic and religious all in one"

Oh so very true, you either get it (you are polish) if you don't then keep learning about Poland, and spend more time with Polish people.

They are more Polish than you P3. They live in Poland and pay taxes there.

You are a distant observer. Have ever been to Poland?

No, but my grandmother visited once and told me all about it.

This is foreigner talk. I live here and if the Poles from across the border or ocean identify as ethnic Poles, they are Polish to me (although some become attached to their new country too easily).

You dont have to live in Israel to be an ethnic Jew. You can live in the US or UK. Its the same thing.

Nationality, ethnicity, ancestry, allegiance all play a role in "Polishness"

I wish she was still around to help some of the lost souls here.

Actually a true Pole doesnt pay their taxes. None. Then complains when the urzad skarbowy fines them.

You must be a very important official from the urząd skarbowy

Haha, no. Weve have dealing with them many times over the years, but thats their job. As long as you stick to the rules and pay your dues, you arent going to have a problem with them.

I'll give you a simple example. One of our workers lets call him dariusz owns a house in the USA. He also owns a home I believe either in or near karkonosze, being a goral and all. He pays property taxes, bills, etc on both homes. He lives in both homes at different times although of course his home in Poland is a summer/vacation home. Nonetheless, his documents according to each country have each respective home as a residence for that country where legal documents are sent. He is of course a polish citizen and thus can participate in polish elections and even run for office if he so desired.


According to who? You? Again, that has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that the majority of polish citizens like myself and dariusz do not approve of gay marraige, gay adoption, etc. It's a cheap deflection.

Polish government?

People staying in Poland who have connections with other countries should first of all establish their tax residence to claim residency in Poland.

That's for residency which is different than citizenship. Citizens can come and go as they please.

So you have your Polish citizenship but you don't have Polish residency as living in a country for at least 183 days out of the year qualifies you as a resident.

For income tax purposes anyways.

Residency can be one of two things. Formally and legally it is a step below citizenship kind of like green card in the USA where you have to be in Poland for x amount of years I believe 3 and reside there the majority of that time and not be gone for more than a period of I believe 6 months at a time.

Here atch was referring to residency in terms of having a place of residence - residing within Poland, not the legal definition although Lenka appears to have combined the two for some reason which doesn't apply to polish citizens as a person can have polish citizenship and not been there for decades

And for income tax Poland doesn't take any money I make in the us, but you're supposed to report income over a certain amount made abroad if you want to keep your citizenship and not have problems with irs. I find it extremely Jewish that you have to pay money to the us even if you've made it abroad and already paid taxes to the host country but that's the system we have... Polands tax regime is much more favorable than the USA and atleast you get something for it besides paying for bums housing and food.

Actually you are mixing citizenship with being resident of Poland (with English terminology I would have to check but besically the country that is your dominating place of living). And it does change things. Both legally and how much you know about realities of living in said country.

In your situation you would be recognised as a Pole living abroad (legally being resident in USA)

All this is irrelevant to your case. You are just a mere tourist in PL and that doesn't entitle you to say "we" when speaking of Poland ...

Except I am a polish citizen, and like the majority of polish citizens WE are against gay marraige, gay adoption and also immigration of turd worlders. Like it or not, that's the majority of polish citizens opinion as verified by numerous polls, surveys, etc.

Absolutely and not a resident of Poland in anyway you look at it.
Webster' s Dictionary = Residence: living place
As far as homosexual marriages by the year 2025 heterosexuals will have to petitions the courts to reinstate heterosexual marriage at the rate things are going.

They won't need to. Homo marraige is already illegal in Poland and the constitution explicitly states marraige is between man and woman.

Adam i Ewa, nie Adam I Stefan.


Except I am a us citizen...not a legal resident (green card holder)

Idk why the concept of dual citizenship is so confusing to people here... Or that a person can have more than one home/residence...

You mean he is trying to dazzle you with diamonds and baffling you with bullshit ?
According to our American dictionary.......
Resident: living place - like a house, condo, apartment or flat = in Dirk's case the U.S.A.
Citizen: A person belonging to a community = in Dirk's case Chicago U.S.A. over 183 days a year.
Citizenship: A person belong to a country = in Dirk's case belonging to two countries, the U.S.A. and Poland
So according to our Webster's Dictionary Dirk you are not a resident or citizen of Poland, you simply have your citizenship to Poland.
There, glad we got that all straightened out once and for all.

If you have citizenship in a country, you are a citizen. That'd be like if I said you have citizenship in the USA, but aren't an American citizen. Pretty ****** stupid eh? If you have citizenship/are a citizen you have all the privileges that come with it such as voting or having the embassy help you out in a jam.

Regardless, none of that has anything to do with the fact that the majority of polish citizens (like myself) do not support gay marraige, adoption, etc which was the original discussion.

You don't live here, and have no voice. Get over it. Nobody cares about scum Polonia here.

Are you drunk again Doug?They do care as me being a Polish citizen have all the rights which a natural born polish pole has even though I dont have a molecule of Polish blood in me physically & not speaking Polish fluently..YOU GET OVER IT as if you dont give a damn for which I dont care as you are standing exactly the opposite side and challenging what the whole Polish State approves and recognises including the government.Good Luck with your opinion.Are you serious that you are challenging what YOUR govt recognises?I suggest keep it to yourself.