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Do you think all Slavs are white?


rozumiemnic 8 | 3,861
4 May 2013 #122
My family are Irish, I was born in England. My friend, in my it is true that many English people do not consider the Irish to be white. Yes, it is completely stupid but the English are very touchy on the subject of race

total boolox
RevokeNice 15 | 1,854
4 May 2013 #123
The Irish are not white? We are one of the least mixed ethnic groups on the planet.

Whiter than white.
Salmon86753o9
4 May 2013 #124
That's not really something to brag about. A lot of genetic diseases occur because of that. Just look at the Finns.
archiwum 13 | 125
4 May 2013 #125
Celts came from China but that don't mean they had any involvement with Chineese culture.

South Slavs may have come from the middle east, but like I said, their involvement
probaley is slight do to movement.

In America in the past the white elite would play off the different groups. That's what I see here.

dshfgkhkjkl,

One more thing to mention is South Slavs had little interaction, except trade with semetic people.
PolkaTagAlong 10 | 186
5 May 2013 #126
The Irish are not white? We are one of the least mixed ethnic groups on the planet.Whiter than white.

Haha?! The Irish, whitest people on the planet? Generally I don't think so!
archiwum 13 | 125
6 May 2013 #127
dshfgkhkjki,

When your talking about Bosnians I understand you to be talking about Serbian Muslims,
and Albanians. They were converted to islam in the 16th century by the Ottoman Turks.

Talking to some people I know, and seeing them on TV, Ive come the conclusion
that they are ethnicaly european.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,163
6 May 2013 #128
Talking to some people I know, and seeing them on TV, Ive come the conclusion
that they are ethnicaly european.

Wouldn't it be easier to look at history and DNA evidence rather than "talking to people" and "watching TV"?

It's not exactly a huge secret that Serbians/Bosnians/Croats are more or less the same genetically.
Astoria - | 153
7 May 2013 #129
Slavs are people speaking slavic languages. It's principally a linguistic characterization, not ethnic or racial.
pierogi2000 4 | 228
7 May 2013 #130
Is the old saying: The word slavery comes from slavs always being slaves during/after war true?
Wulkan - | 3,203
7 May 2013 #131
I googled that saying and did not find anything so looks like you made up that saying...
pierogi2000 4 | 228
7 May 2013 #132
It's a common opinion in the USA

"The word σκλάβος, in turn, comes from the ethnonym Slav, because in some wars in early mediaeval times many Slavs were captured and enslaved"

Wiki
Wulkan - | 3,203
7 May 2013 #133
It's a common opinion in the USA

Please... even finding Europe on the map is not a common ability in USA...

If I asked Americans on the street - what do you think about Slavs? 9 out of 10 would say - I am not following baseball at the moment xD
Rysavy 10 | 307
7 May 2013 #134
If I asked Americans on the street - what do you think about Slavs? 9 out of 10 would say - I am not following baseball at the moment xD

:(
I only wish I can deny that..however you exaggerate. 6 out of 10 would say that. and not heard that as a "saying" anywhere. Only academia woudl know such trivia
archiwum 13 | 125
7 May 2013 #135
delphiandomine,

If your talking about Haplogroup, it aint absolute.
RevokeNice 15 | 1,854
7 May 2013 #136
Here is a good article on Europes genetic diversity - blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2008/08/genetic-map-of-europe-genes-vary-as-a-function-of-distance/#.UYlIjn3hTMI

Irish, British and Scandinavians are the least mixed. The invaders to these islands made but a small imprint in our dna and genes.

The map in that article is worth checking out - really cool stuff.
pierogi2000 4 | 228
7 May 2013 #137
Please... even finding Europe on the map is not a common ability in USA...

If I asked Americans on the street - what do you think about Slavs? 9 out of 10 would say - I am not following baseball at the moment xD

Fair enough, I'm not disagreeing with you just asking a question. The issue with discrediting American opinion, is that their view through the use of power media is portrayed onto Asia, South America, Africa

I had a black guy tell me, ''We are brothers. Slavs were slaves too''.
RevokeNice 15 | 1,854
3 Aug 2013 #138
Haha?! The Irish, whitest people on the planet? Generally I don't think so!

Treat yourself to a 23andme autosomal DNA test and then compare, my slavic friend.

You will have a few percentiles in the woodpile!
archiwum 13 | 125
5 Aug 2013 #139
Every society has a minority within a majority. There is 1% mixed of bolth.

Ive said this before, you have to go to the surname itself.
Dangus
12 Sep 2013 #140
Balts (Lithuanian etc.) are the Whitest people; while they are not the blondest, they are the most European along with the Scandinavians and the Dutch. While the Polish are a mix of Turks, Slavs and Balts. Balts gave blondeness to Finns and Scandinavians and to Slavs. Western Europeans were Balts who moved westward and mixed with the negroes and arabs.
Wulkan - | 3,203
12 Sep 2013 #141
Polish are a mix of Turks

source please
Nile 1 | 154
12 Sep 2013 #142
Balts (Lithuanian etc.) are the Whitest people; while they are not the blondest, they are the most European along with the Scandinavians and the Dutch. While the Polish are a mix of Turks, Slavs and Balts. Balts gave blondeness to Finns and Scandinavians and to Slavs. Western Europeans were Balts who moved westward and mixed with the negroes and arabs.

Let me hazard a guess, you are must be one of those Balts. lol !
For the rest of the world you are just an obscure Eastern European racist.
AdamKadmon 2 | 501
12 Sep 2013 #143
Western Europeans were Balts who moved westward and mixed with the ******* and Arabs.

To the mod: How come that Idiot's post do not go to the bin and mine do?

And mine was:

Not yet sure, but a Jewish signature I sense.

The author (not an obscure Eastern European racist), original language, and source of the passage call attention but you would be misled if you would "sense a Jewish signature".

Postcolonial Poland
muse.jhu.edu/journals/ckn/summary/v010/10.1cavanagh.html

Clare Cavanagh
miko
23 May 2014 #144
The only fully white Slavs imho are Czechs, Slovaks, Poles, Slovenes, Belarusians (former Lithuanians) and western Ukrainians.

Don't forget the Bulgarians!!! Most pure Bulgarians are white and for the most of the people that are dark skinned and claim to have my nationality are simply gipsy's/romi/cigani. I'm not a racist or whatever I just want people to know and make the difference between a Bulgarian and a gipsy.
R.U.R.
23 May 2014 #145
For me , the people from Balkans do not differ much from other europeans from the south like Italians, Greeks, Spaniards, French etc
Wulkan - | 3,203
23 May 2014 #146
the people from Balkans do not differ much from other europeans from the south like Italians, Greeks, Spaniards,

Good point, if the balkans are not white then Italians, Greeks, Spanish aren't white either.
Szalawa 2 | 240
23 May 2014 #147
Simple, if they have white skin, then they are white. if they have brown skin, then they are brown etc. But they all belong to the same ethnic/linguistic/cultural group.
archiwum 13 | 125
24 May 2014 #148
You guys base your views on that. Americans base their view on immgration from 1820-1928. NARA.

NARA has it all.
JanIIISobieski 1 | 16
15 Jun 2014 #149
real racial characteristic of our Slavic kind is ROSE, not the WHITE skin.

Polish, and other Slavs seem to lack rose / reddish colored skin.

It is mostly British, and Irish who have rose / reddish colored skin.

they are the most European along with the Scandinavians and the Dutch

The Dutch aren't the most European by genetics.

Lithuanians always come out as the most European by DNA, in study after study, this is true.

Many DNA studies conclude that Polish are as European, or even more European than Scandinavians.

Maternal DNA suggests that Polish are a mix of Lithuanian, and German.

Paternal DNA suggests that Lithuanians are a mix of Polish, and Finns.
Nickidewbear 23 | 609
15 Jun 2014 #150
So even if your skin got olive color you're still "white".

Actually, we're Olive. There are six "races"/macro-ethnic groups: the White (European), Black (African), Yellow (Asian/"Oriental"), Brown (e.g., Mexica, Taino), Red (as in Native North American; not the general אדום", which אום was ), and Olive (e.g., Israelite/Jewish, Ishmaelite-Edomite/Arab, Iberian) "races". Many of us are products of inter-"racial"/interethnic unions, and we're nonetheless Olive-even if, e.g., we look White because of some Slav who converted to Judaism or because our gene pool microevolved to make us look White.

Here's what an יהודי קדמון looked like, by the way:

failedmessiah.typepad.com/failed_messiahcom/2009/01/researcher-reconstructs-ancient-jewish-faces.html

And let's be very clear: the man looks like Wolf Blitzer sans glasses or Billy Joel.


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