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Lyzko  Dec 18, 10, 17:08    #181
Lovely post, Daisy-:)) Many thanks. Folks here on this side of the Great Pond perhaps are ignorant of the fact that you Southern English grew up hearing, if not speaking, an English much closer to what has become 'American pronunciation' with it's final r-sounds and flat 'a's' than this hyper-unreal Oxford accent modelled after Prince Albert, Queen Vicky's hubby, who couldn't really even speak English, as he was a German from Saxe-Coburg!!!

Lyzko  Dec 18, 10, 17:11    #182
Bratwurst Boy, what I simply meant was that your formative influences, beyond our high school, have been mired in post-Vietnam rebellion and anger at ANY system! I'm sure you had a solid education, but your comments about English, not to mention your frequent vulgarities, seem to bear me out-:)
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Edited by: Daisy  Dec 18, 10, 17:12    #183
Bratwurst Boy
That is german!

West Saxon = Wessex
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Edited by: Bratwurst Boy  Dec 18, 10, 17:14    #184
Lyzko:
Bratwurst Boy, what I simply meant was that your formative influences, beyond our high school, have been mired in post-Vietnam rebellion and anger at ANY system! I'm sure you had a solid education, but your comments about English, not to mention your frequent vulgarities, seem to bear me out-:)


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Daisy:
Bratwurst Boy
West Saxon = Wessex


Absolutely interesting!

I would had never thought that still possible understandable in the 20th century..
Lyzko  Dec 18, 10, 17:15    #185
Compare too my point with Yorkshire dialect, in England's far north:

thar = there
skule = school

Not only Germanic, but close to Appalachian Hill's talk here in the States.
Lyzko  Dec 18, 10, 17:17    #186
Translation: You're merely a product of your time, not necessarily of your schooling.
G.B. Shaw once remarked, after all, that the only time his education was interrupted was when he was in school LOL
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 Dec 18, 10, 17:18    #187
Lyzko:
Folks here on this side of the Great Pond perhaps are ignorant of the fact that you Southern English grew up hearing, if not speaking, an English much closer to what has become 'American pronunciation' with it's final r-sounds and flat 'a's' than this hyper-unreal Oxford accent modelled after Prince Albert, Queen Vicky's hubby, who couldn't really even speak English, as he was a German from Saxe-Coburg!!!

You are a tad confused, Prince Albert has nothing to do with Oxford English, blame William the B@stard and his Norman nobility, they are the ones who introduced the upper class accent, the accent you speak of is the Anglo Saxon working class/peasant accent
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Edited by: Bratwurst Boy  Dec 18, 10, 17:18    #188
Lyzko:
G.B. Shaw once remarked, after all, that the only time his education was interrupted was when he was in school


Great quote! :)
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 Dec 18, 10, 17:23    #189
Bratwurst Boy:
I would had never thought that still possible understandable in the 20th century..

the dialect comes from that, not identical, although it is funny how many words from OE I understand, the only dialect words I use are

Chipole for spring onion
chiggiwig for wood louse
quiddle for squid

I use waps jokingly for wasp and everyone still uses gert for large. My grandmother used loads, smeech for smoke, nisch for someone who is week and delicate
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 Dec 18, 10, 17:34    #190
Great! I love learning things like that....Linguistic is fascinating! :)
Lyzko  Dec 18, 10, 17:39    #191
Thanks for the riposte, Daisy! Indeed so, I was confused (..and more than a tad I should say).
Am straightened out now. Your explanation of course makes absolute historical sense))

Probably knew it but just forgot that I remembered. If I never did, then I jolly well should've.
Cheers again,


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