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Koach  Dec 16, 06, 18:11    #1
I was looking at some words and noticed several similarities. Is Ukrainian more similar to Russian or Polish?
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Ukrainian and Russian are closer.
Polish is closer to Russian but some people may argue here I think. In Ukrainian quite many words are identical with polish ones....
To me Russian is more understandable then Ukrainian but that again maybe due to me having rather more exposure to Russian language.
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Joined: Dec 5, 06 ♂ 		 Dec 16, 06, 21:22    #3
For sure Polish have a whole lot different alphabet than the Russian cirilica..
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Beautiful girls, my favourite similarity

About Ukrainian, it's more similar to Russian, of course, but it's still easier than Chinese
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Quoting: bartek212, Post #4
Beautiful girls, my favourite similarity


yup and in polish we have only one word for both "tongue" and "language"
Kostya  Dec 18, 06, 10:48    #6
If you speak Polish and Russian, Ukranian should be simple for you. I think Russian and Ukranian are equally close to Polish.
YANTA  Dec 26, 06, 19:30    #7
Slavic languages are all very similar. But polish uses the latin alphabet with special signs. Ukrianian, russian use cyrillic alphabet very similar to greek but without the same meaning. but I have a russian friend who understands many words in polish. Russian is also easier to learn then polish.
professays  Jan 30, 07, 04:55    #8
There is a very little number of the Ukrainian language course-books oriented for foreigners. That makes this language difficult for learning by foreigners.
Pan Lech  Feb 14, 07, 10:38    #9
Czy rozumiesz po ukrainsku i po polsku? Ktory jezyk jest latwie dla ciebie?

Marek
marchewka  Feb 15, 07, 07:37    #10
I would say that Ukrainian is much more similar to Polish than Russian is. However Russians understand Ukrainians and the other way around it because of the mutual exposure to those languages due to the history.
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Ukrainian is a brother of Belorussian and Polish is much more similar to Slovak I think, or maybe even to Croatian
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Joined: Feb 15, 07 ♂ 		Edited by: Administrator  Feb 15, 07, 13:03    #12
Czesc, Marczewko!

Zgadzam sie o podobnienia miedzy polskim i ukrainskim. Ale czy takze rozumiesz goral dialect ze Zakopanego?

Marek

Please write in English only. Admin
Pan Lech  Feb 16, 07, 08:20    #13
Apologies for responding in Polish. I wasn't certain as to the English level of the others.
I merely stated that I agreed with the respondents comment about Polish and Ukrainian being closer than, say, Polish and Russian.

I also wished to inquire as to whether the respondent also could understand the language of the mountain "highlanders" from the Zakopane region.

Marek
marchewka  Feb 16, 07, 08:34    #14
Quoting: Pan Lech
I also wished to inquire as to whether the respondent also could understand the language of the mountain "highlanders" from the Zakopane region.

yes, I can.
marchewka  Feb 16, 07, 08:35    #15
Quoting: Pan Lech
Marek

although, I don't understand the purpose of your question
Pan Lech  Feb 16, 07, 10:33    #16
Czy nie zrozumialas? No, dlatego napisalem po polsku!

Pytalem, czy takze rozumiesz góral dialekt w Zakopanym?


Marek
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I didn't know there was too much diffference in dialect. Is it a big difference?
alienbill  Feb 22, 07, 22:26    #18
Somewere in this thread it was stated that Russian is easier to learn than Polish (I assume we're talking about an English speaker here). Does anyone here agree or disagree, and why?

I thought just the opposite because of the different writing systems. I have tried for some time to learn Russian on my own. I have found it very difficult, esp the cyrllic writing. I was considering trying to study Polish instead because at least our writing systems are more similar. Just wondering what everyone thinks on this topic?
Cerl  Feb 22, 07, 22:41    #19
Quoting: alienbill
Just wondering what everyone thinks on this topic?


Cyrilica makes it tougher to learn Russian..
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Joined: Feb 15, 07 ♂ 		 Feb 23, 07, 07:33    #20
ALIENBILL!
As a native English speaker myself, raised though bilingual English-German in the States, Polish might seem superficially less complex than Russian (or for that matter Ukrainian) solely by virtue of their alphabetic similarities, save for several different letters which I'm not able to reporoduce on my keyboard in the office.

However, morphologically, i.e. phonologically, Polish has one extra case from the Russian's six (the vocative, though rarely used), a tongue-twistingly difficult pronounciation ("Chrzasz brzmi w trzecinie"= The beetle buzzes in the reeds) and numerous irregularities in both declension as well as the counting system.

This alone, having studied both, makes Polish harder for Americans than Russian!
Marek
marchewka  Feb 23, 07, 07:42    #21
Marek,
since you are interested in languages this site might be of an interest to you:

wordreferance.com
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Alien!

Oops. "W Szczecinbrzegdinie chrzaszcz brzmi w trzcecinie.", I believe is the entire quote.
Then again, I've been wrong before. English has it's " Theopholus thistlesifter, sifting a thread of unsifted thistles though the thick of his thumb..." German: "Der Cottbuser Postkutscher putzt die Cottbuser Postkutsche."

Ad infinitum, tongue-twisters are great, aren't they?
Marek
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Slicznie dziekuje, Marczewko

Marek
marchewka  Feb 23, 07, 07:55    #24
Marek,
It's Marchewka - for carrot in Polish
Prosze bardzo
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There is no "trzecina", only "trzcina", which makes it even harder to say... The same with Szczebrzeszyn, which isn't related to Szczecin.

Thus the whole sentence goes: "W Szczebrzeszynie chrz±szcz brzmi w trzcinie."

Pozdrawiam,
Gustaw
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Serdecznie dziekuje, Gustaw!
Marek
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Dziekuje po raz drugi!

Where in Poland are you from? I detect almost no errors in your English, as I may have noted before.

Feel so damned silly writing to Poles in English.!X#$%

Marek
marchewka  Feb 23, 07, 11:05    #28
Marek,

are you taking to me or Gustaw?
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Mowie z toba, Marczweka. I'm speaking to you, rather than to Gustaw.
Guess I'll have to keep translating into English so that there's not only one language on the post. Glupstwo!

Marek
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Small point, Marczewka. You probably just misspelled "reference" as "referance", because as a Polish native speaker, that's how you heard the word, therefore you inadavertantly transcribed it. Polish is more phonetic, but many Poles whom I've taught English would typically write in their dictations: "had" instead of "head" or "Tad" instead of "Ted" etc.
Pomagam ci z twoim angielskim, równiez ty pomagasz mi z moim polskim

Dziekuje za polecenie!
Marek

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