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Village and towns in Poland with hard to pronounce names

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musicwriterThreads: 7 Posts: 110 Joined: Jan 7, 10 ♂	Dec 4, 10, 06:59 #1
I get out my Polish atlas every now and then and say the names of places, but the village named Pszczółczyn is rather tricky to pronounce. I think it has some connection with bee-keeping. The village is in woj. Podlaskie about 25 km west of Białystok. Pshchu-chin (in phoenetics)?

Marek11111Threads: 49 Posts: 1,954 Joined: Aug 6, 09 ♂	Edited by: Marek11111 Dec 4, 10, 07:04 #2
I have been there, my family lives around Tykocin

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Edited by: Softsong Dec 4, 10, 07:21 #3

I can murder Polish words better than most, but your phonetics looks about right. I wonder if the ł is voiced more though. Help native Poles!

Even the village where my grandmother's farm was located looks difficult to me, but the village you are talking about is definitely visually challenging.

My grandmother lived in Przyrowa, near Rypin. I grew up hearing Polish, but never knew the letter system and I was pretty surprised when I saw how things were spelled.

Culture shock! LOL *wink*

Lyzko	Dec 4, 10, 14:30 #4
...Szczecin, Przebrzezin (of tongue-twister fame LOL), Płock...... the list is quite extensive-:)

wildroverThreads: 180 Posts: 8,188 Joined: Jun 7, 07 ♂	Dec 4, 10, 14:53 #5
My Polish friends are still laughing at my pronunciation of Chociwel...

recoilThreads: - Posts: 32 Joined: Jan 31, 09 ♂	Dec 4, 10, 14:58 #6
Softsong: Help native Poles! Maybe virtual Poles at ivona.com will suffice :) Just enter the text and click 'czytaj' to hear it spoken. The accents are sometimes unnatural, but the spelling is usually very close to the real thing.

ZedThreads: - Posts: 304 Joined: May 25, 10 ♂	Dec 4, 10, 15:07 #7
Pszczółczyn - the letter "ł" is definitely heard in this case!

Lyzko	Dec 4, 10, 15:30 #8
Przemysł (almost like "przemyśl" = industry!). Here, I've been told by native as well as 'virtual' Poles, that the "ł" is most decidedly inaudible-:) Guess if a US town can be called "Suddenly", a Polish town can be called "Industry" (just kidding!)

jonniThreads: 26 Posts: 4,181 Joined: Nov 27, 07 ♂	Dec 4, 10, 15:41 #9
Fortunately you probably haven't heard a Pole (or any foreigner) try to pronounce Clitheroe.

Polonius3Threads: 1,005 Posts: 4,833 Joined: Apr 11, 08 ♂	Dec 4, 10, 15:42 #10
Are you referring to the SE city of Przemyśl? The Ukrainians call it Peremyshl. The root is the Polish verb to think something over, consider, mull, etc.

PennBoyThreads: 157 Posts: 3,441 Joined: Dec 7, 08 ♂	Dec 4, 10, 15:47 #11
Szczebrzeszyn in Lublin Voivodeship

Lyzko	Dec 4, 10, 15:49 #12
Interesting, Polonius! Like Hamlet's confidant/advisor, you also have useful information to contribute, thanks!

Lyzko	Dec 4, 10, 15:50 #13
........w chrząść brzmi w tcecinie...... Dzięki, PennBoy

jonniThreads: 26 Posts: 4,181 Joined: Nov 27, 07 ♂	Dec 4, 10, 15:53 #14
Lyzko: tcecinie...... trzcinie

Lyzko	Dec 4, 10, 15:59 #15
Misspelling a Polish word, who ME????!! tanx, guys, -:))

bydgoszczaninThreads: 2 Posts: 24 Joined: Oct 21, 10 ♂	Dec 4, 10, 16:06 #16
'Bydgoszcz'

Lyzko	Dec 4, 10, 16:21 #17
Now we know why the Germans call it 'Bromberg' LOL

nunczkaThreads: 17 Posts: 623 Joined: Sep 13, 08 ♂	Dec 4, 10, 16:24 #18
My Father came from Drzerdrzuwka

Lyzko	Dec 4, 10, 16:45 #19
Dzairrd-ZHUFFKAH probably, with stress on the ultimate syllable.

ShortHairThugThreads: - Posts: 1,374 Joined: May 1, 09 ♂	Dec 4, 10, 17:26 #20
Lyzko: Dzairrd-ZHUFFKAH probably, with stress on the ultimate syllable. For a foreigner perhaps but not for a real Pole, besides shouldn’t it be Dzierdziówka near Stalowa Wola or Drożdżówka near Warsaw, never heard of Drzerdrzuwka, somehow it don’t seem right.

Lyzko	Dec 4, 10, 17:29 #21
As a non-native, I'll gladly stand corrected!

ShortHairThugThreads: - Posts: 1,374 Joined: May 1, 09 ♂	Edited by: ShortHairThug Dec 4, 10, 17:33 #22
Lyzko: As a non-native, I'll gladly stand corrected! Don’t take it personally it’s not a stab at you; you did your best with the pronunciation of what was written. Do your best with the other two, I wonder how it would be pronounced by non-native.

Lyzko	Dec 4, 10, 18:03 #23
Gosh, Short-Hair, that's anybody's guess! Stab? When learning, there're only the welcome slings and arrows of grateful improvement. Sure it's the same with you and English-:))

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