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To wear: nosić, nieść, ponieść?

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róża

Dec 27, 10, 17:33 #1

I'm confused about the meanings of the verb 'to wear, carry', nosić, nieść, ponieść. I think these are respectively: indeterminate imperfective, determinate imperfective, and perfective.

Can I say, with the meaning wear: Zwykle noszę spódnicę (I usually wear a skirt), ale dzisiaj niosę dżinsy (but today I am wearing jeans). Tylko raz poniosłem moją nową bluzkę (I have only worn my new blouse once)?

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Dec 27, 10, 17:45 #2

HI, Róża!

Great question. The noun nosić is normally used as you said it - however when it's relating 'wearing', it's frozen in some usual forms:

Zwykle noszę spódnicę (I usually wear a skirt), - właśnie tak.

ale dzisiaj niosę dżinsy (but today I am wearing jeans). - dzisiaj noszę dżinsy, dzisiaj mam na sobie dżinsy.

Tylko raz poniosłem moją nową bluzkę (I have only worn my new blouse once)?
Tylko raz założyam moją nową bluzkę, tylko raz miałam na sobie moją nową bluzkę, tylko raz nosiłam moją nową bluzkę.

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Dec 27, 10, 17:47 #3

Zwykle noszę spódnicę (I usually wear a skirt)

Only that sentence is correct. other mean not to wear but to carry but for ex in hand. :)
ale dzisiaj niosę dżinsy (but today I am wearing jeans). Tylko raz poniosłem moją nową bluzkę (I have only worn my new blouse once)?

Today I'm wearing jeans - dziś NOSZĘ spodnie
I have only worn my new blouse once - tylko raz NOSIŁAM moją nową bluzkę

Nosić- to wear clothes, to carry for ex things in hand, bag more less regularly. As you mentioned "I usually wear...."
Nieść - means - to carry (in hand, in bag) in that moment, now
Ponieść - means to carry for a while, or for ex" ponieść klęskę/karę" - to be defeated/punished

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Edited by: Ziemowit Dec 27, 10, 18:47 #4

To add to this excellent explanation of Nana, I'd like to remark that these two very similar verbs will decline in a different way:
nosić --> ja noszę, ty nosisz, on nosi, my nosimy, wy nosicie, oni noszą
nieść --> ja niosę, ty niesiesz, on niesie, my niesiemy, wy niesiecie, oni niosą.

As one foreigner said to me once: why should you conjugate and decline everything in Polish? For example:
Ja noszę kalosze;
Ty nosisz kalosisz;
On nosi kalosi;
My nosimy kalosimy;
Wy nosicie kalosicie;
Oni noszą kaloszą.

Indeed, why do we decline everything!?

róża	Dec 27, 10, 22:17 #5
Dzięki wszystkim!

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Dec 27, 10, 22:29 #6
Oh, don't forget about ubierać (się), róża

jonniThreads: 26 Posts: 4,181 Joined: Nov 27, 07 ♂	Dec 27, 10, 22:44 #7
Or the associated noun, uniesienie. An odd word to say the least.

Lyzko	Dec 28, 10, 17:04 #8
Therefore quite similar to German 'tragen' = 'to carry' as well as 'to wear'.

SzwedwPolsceThreads: 13 Posts: 1,915 Joined: Feb 21, 09 ♂	Dec 29, 10, 14:05 #9
nana: Nosić- to wear clothes, to carry for ex things in hand, bag more less regularly. As you mentioned "I usually wear...." Nieść - means - to carry (in hand, in bag) in that moment, now Ponieść - means to carry for a while, or for ex" ponieść klęskę/karę" - to be defeated/punished This is the essential part.

Lyzko	Dec 29, 10, 21:58 #10
"Przynieść" (perfective) = to bring, is likely another derivative, since the act of bringing (by hand!) and carrying (by definition only by hand) are essentially the same-:)

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