What do you like in Polish language?

zetigrekThreads: 59 Posts: 2,709 Joined: May 20, 10 ♂	Aug 13, 10, 21:16 #1
loose things, everything wich goes to your mind... When I was young teeny I bacame a lil bit perv about word Bazuka. I have no idea why but it made me laugh (and made laugh my friend who discovered that this word is funny)

wildroverThreads: 180 Posts: 8,188 Joined: Jun 7, 07 ♂	Aug 13, 10, 21:30 #2
zetigrek: about word Bazuka. bazuka are big tits aren,t they...?

ZedThreads: - Posts: 304 Joined: May 25, 10 ♂	Aug 13, 10, 21:32 #3
I know this only as an English word "bazooka" (military usage). I don't think I have ever heard it used in Poland. But maybe locally it does have a meaning?

zetigrekThreads: 59 Posts: 2,709 Joined: May 20, 10 ♂	Edited by: zetigrek Aug 13, 10, 21:39 #4
Zed: I know this only as an English word "bazooka" (military usage). I don't think I have ever heard it used in Poland. But maybe locally it does have a meaning? no it means bazooka... it's just funny word I had also porblem with name of the street Jaracza...

noreenbThreads: 4 Posts: 1,082 Joined: Apr 22, 09 ♀	Aug 13, 10, 23:23 #5
I like Polish language but I am in love with English now and I can't get over it. I am addicted to English. I've just realised it now. Funny. What do I like in Polish language? Generally? Simplicity. ;) English makes me to think too much what is engaging but tiring actually.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Aug 13, 10, 23:31 #6
Wildrover is right! Polish guys refer to busty chicks as having bazookas :) What do I like in the Polish language? Hmm....without going into specifics, I'd just say the challenge it presents. The endings and exceptions are always sth I am drawn to when I get proficient in a language. The higher-end stuff puts you to the sword.

smurfThreads: 46 Posts: 660 Joined: Sep 8, 09 ♂	Aug 13, 10, 23:51 #7
swearing, swearing in Polish is a ton of fun. oh and how people say masakre, thats a cool word. Also the Silesian language is really cool and much easier than Polish, it's loads of fun when i say Silesian words to the Silesian natives, they love the fact that I'm making the effort to learn the local lingo

RysiekKThreads: 8 Posts: 44 Joined: Jul 3, 10 ♂	Aug 13, 10, 23:51 #8
Bazookas are weapons in the military sense ... and female weapons in the "tit" sense :) Cześc

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Aug 14, 10, 00:18 #9
Silesian is pretty cool. I like the fact that I could fox a Pole with it :)

NorthMancPolakThreads: 6 Posts: 708 Joined: Jun 13, 10 ♂	Aug 14, 10, 00:40 #10
Seanus: Silesian is pretty cool. I like the fact that I could fox a Pole with it :) It doesn't take much. Even something as simple as Idę na pole usually does the trick :D

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Aug 14, 10, 00:44 #11
That's Krakowian, NMP. They say na dwór here. I'm talking true Silesian which is highly Germanic. I ran a thread on it on PF.

NorthMancPolakThreads: 6 Posts: 708 Joined: Jun 13, 10 ♂	Aug 14, 10, 00:46 #12
Yes, and we agreed that it's also used by real Silesians ;)

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Aug 14, 10, 00:53 #13
Hmm...not all of them ;) ;) My wife's parents are definitely real Silesians and they don't use it. They have the classic vowel changes too. For example, mosz zamiast masz and many more.

SapiensThreads: 1 Posts: 13 Joined: Aug 9, 10 ♂	Aug 14, 10, 01:01 #14
Becouse i could use it to communicate with: my family, everyone on street, in shops, schools and other places. It is is very usefull in place where i live :).

NorthMancPolakThreads: 6 Posts: 708 Joined: Jun 13, 10 ♂	Aug 14, 10, 01:02 #15
Seanus: Hmm...not all of them ;) ;) My wife's parents are definitely real Silesians and they don't use it. They have the classic vowel changes too. For example, mosz zamiast masz and many more. lol true, but it's like round here - everyone from outside the area thinks that everyone here speaks like Shaun Ryder, but it's just not true - but it doesn't mean they're not "local" :D

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Aug 14, 10, 01:04 #16
I was listening to Liam Gallagher in an interview earlier today. He wouldn't stop saying, 'know what I mean?'. It was toxic! Silesian is great to listen to. They can speak away in it and I'll catch most of it. I was primed :)

pgtxThreads: 49 Posts: 6,327 Joined: Feb 14, 09 MEMBER ♀	Edited by: pgtx Aug 14, 10, 01:04 #17
well, i can tell you what i didn't like in Polish language... something that many foreigners struggle with, even on this forum... it's cases (przypadki)...but i was very young...later on it came natural so there is some hope foreigners... :)

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Aug 14, 10, 01:08 #18
Oh, I still provide a laugh from time to time with bad selection :) Humility teaches us much :) Much worse is my soft Scottish pronunciation of Polish words. I have problems with cipa and czipa. Other ones have gotten me into trouble too :)

pgtxThreads: 49 Posts: 6,327 Joined: Feb 14, 09 MEMBER ♀	Aug 14, 10, 01:11 #19
Seanus: I have problems with cipa and czipa. i don't understand how would you use that in a class....lol

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Aug 14, 10, 01:13 #20
It wasn't in a class, pgtx ;) ;) It's too risque to bring it up there ;0 My wife has bigger problems when she was younger, LOL. She couldn't pronounce W as in wujek. She said chujek, LOL. Chujek and Ciota for uncle and aunt, ROTFL

pgtxThreads: 49 Posts: 6,327 Joined: Feb 14, 09 MEMBER ♀	Edited by: pgtx Aug 14, 10, 01:16 #21
Seanus: she was younger, LOL. She couldn't pronounce W as in wujek. She said chujek, LOL. Chujek and Ciota for uncle and aunt, lol.... kids are funny that way.... i still remember some words me and my brother made up as children, but i keep them for myself...lol...everybody forgives a child and everybody giggles with a foreigner...:)

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Aug 14, 10, 01:19 #22
That's pretty much it :) :) I was once told that I said cipy instead of chipsy when I was a beginner in Polish but I have no recollection of this. I certainly wouldn't do that now. I like the challenge of the endings when counting. I sometimes mistake ów for ek but I feel it better now :)

pgtxThreads: 49 Posts: 6,327 Joined: Feb 14, 09 MEMBER ♀	Aug 14, 10, 01:24 #23
Seanus: I said cipy instead of chipsy i say sometimes cipsy, but nobody understands that because nobody speaks Polish here, just one of my friends, but she knows so it's no fun...lol

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Aug 14, 10, 01:29 #24
Anyway, enough of those references :) I just like the feeling of being able to use another language with relative comfort. You feel more included and also know that you still have a fair bit to learn. Another factor is the general propensity not to complicate. It was the same when I spoke Japanese, they didn't use a lot of their language in order to keep it simple.

ZbojnikThreads: - Posts: 22 Joined: Aug 13, 10 ♂	Aug 14, 10, 02:34 #25
I find English to be very cold, good for descriptions. However w/ the Polish language they add these endearing endings to words which make them sound sweet, like ka, or cek

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Aug 14, 10, 12:56 #26

Polish is the fifth language I've tried to learn, and I'm finding it the least enjoyable. The concept of cases I can understand, but the level of redundancy (making every single adjective agree with the gender, case and plurality of the noun, for example) a real chore. It's also crushing to make a tiny difference in pronunciation between "i", "e" and "y", and then have Poles look at you with blank faces and then a "bardzo nie rozumiem".

On the plus side, I found in Tesco's last night a little book in the "Male Tablice" series for gymnasium/high school students; "Male Tablice: Jezyk Polski" is an 80-page compendium of grammar tables. It's in Polish, but to have a quick reference book with, it seems, EVERYTHING in it, for 7 zlotys, is too good to miss.

SzwedwPolsceThreads: 13 Posts: 1,915 Joined: Feb 21, 09 ♂	Aug 23, 10, 01:55 #27
NorthMancPolak: Idę na pole Seanus: They say na dwór here. North v.s. South war. :)

ShortHairThugThreads: - Posts: 1,375 Joined: May 1, 09 ♂	Aug 23, 10, 02:18 #28
SzwedwPolsce: North v.s. South war. :) No Pan vs chłop war (Pan idzie na pole doglądać swojego, a chłop idzie na dwór pracować u Pana) Riddle solved.

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Aug 23, 10, 21:54 #29

This is how it worked:

"dwor" was a settlement including buildings and some constrained area outside of the buildings. The same person could then say "ide na dwor" i.e. outside of a building but within the constrained area. From there the same person could go "na pole" i.e. outside of "dwor".

Similarly, someone being outside of "dwor" ( a person who was already "na polu) could "isc na dwor".

Historically, "na dwor" was typical of Poznan, Warsaw, Lvov. Krakow Kielce regions used "na pole". Since the political and hence cultural influence shifter over the centuries, so did the language. Hence, "na pole" is now considered a regionalism.

It is also worth noting the difference between "isc na pole" (to go outside) and "isc w pole" (to go to work in the field).

obserwator	Aug 24, 10, 04:59 #30
Seanus: Oh, I still provide a laugh from time to time with bad selection :) Humility teaches us much :) Much worse is my soft Scottish pronunciation of Polish words. So "cielęcina" must be your word of choice :D

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