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GERMAN PSYCHOPATHS INSULTING POLISH PEOPLE


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daffy
  Apr 4, 07, 09:22  #91

im sorry i dont fully understand what your trying to say here

Quoting: Crow
I would be with you when that Big picture start to collapse. And, even then I would suggest to you to preserve your faith at least in your children, for some days in future.



Quoting: Crow
were maybe first who believed in united Europe.


good, then keep that belief alive. practise it. work towards it. be progress.

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mbti [Guest]
  Apr 4, 07, 09:31  #92

To Puzzler _ people like Daffy just have no idea, don't waste your time. I recall statement he made before that Poland and Russia need to come together to make Europe safer - so, are we feeling insecure again????what a great thinking just like in 1939. Nobody in England was interested with Churchill's warnings then, but when sh*** hit the roof they knew who to use. Historia kolem sie toczy.

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daffy
Edited by: daffy  Apr 4, 07, 09:41  #93

Quoting: mbti
I recall statement he made before that Poland and Russia need to come together to make Europe safer



HAHA thats not something i recall ever saying

Quoting: mbti
so, are we feeling insecure again????


ive not now or ever implied this

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mbti [Guest]
  Apr 4, 07, 10:16  #94

O well Daffy one can only be perfect - no hard feelings i hope... just skip the name

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daffy
  Apr 4, 07, 10:24  #95

Quoting: mbti
O well Daffy one can only be perfect



we try to be, we never reach, but it is in trying we improve and progress.

Quoting: mbti
no hard feelings i hope


none at all

Quoting: mbti
ust skip the name


sorry dont get it? can you explain what that means?

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anielka
  Apr 4, 07, 11:07  #96

Quoting: Marek
If anything, blame Jewish clannishness and suspicion on the Cahtolic Church which did not allow Jews to live and practice the professions of Christians.


I don't know much about Jews per se, I'm curious, where did the concept of not touching a Gentile come in or is this myth. This is portrayed clearly, as is the father Topol disowning the third daughter when she marries a Russian in the film Fiddler on the Roof, or is the film not true in showing Jewish culture?

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daffy
  Apr 4, 07, 11:15  #97

jewish culture, while not an expert, as we know is older than christianity (you'd be surprised that some christians dont know that)

Anywho. they came from a time where a family was pretty much a nation. and it was the way then (and can still be seen today - in any religious background) that the family come first and outsiders (gentiles) are not trustworthy, treat with contemp/skeptism.

This is what i understand that background to be from, open to correct and edumacation

Quoting: anielka
I'm curious


ja tez

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Puzzler
  Apr 4, 07, 11:31  #98

Daffy, prove that I allegedly 'hate all things german apparantly' (sic).

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Puzzler
  Apr 4, 07, 11:41  #99

Mbti, I think daffy is a nice sensitive European kid, but at times a little insufficiently, or wrongly, informed, and a bit too firmly holding onto his convictions. ( It's not my intention to patronize daffy; my opinion about him is based on facts.) Well, I'll do what I can to put him on the right track.

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Puzzler
  Apr 4, 07, 11:57  #100

Marek, any evidence that Jews 'were called into Poland as elsewhere in medaeval Europe and used for their busienss skills ass barganing chips' (sic)? Any evidence that the fact that Jews didn't interact with the Poles wasn't the result of the Jews' 'own choosing'? Finally, any evidence that it's the Catholic Church that should be blamed for the Jewish 'clannishness and suspicion' (sic), because the Catholic Church, allegedly, did not allow Jews to live and practice the professions of Christians'?

By the way, the Jewish author Gross, whom you seem to value highly, appears to be a charlatan and Zionist propagandist, rather than a serious historian. (By education, Gross isn't an historian, but a sociologist.) Even the Jewish famous author Norman Finkelstein seems to see Gross in such a light. Gross seems to be another Jewish Polonophobic hate-monger, working for the Holocaust Industry.

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daffy
  Apr 4, 07, 12:38  #101

Quoting: Puzzler
little insufficiently, or wrongly, informed



i could say the same thing about you, its a circular arguement

Quoting: Puzzler
sensitive European


yes.

Quoting: Puzzler
and a bit too firmly holding onto his convictions


again, could say this about you too - circular argument

Quoting: Puzzler
prove that I allegedly 'hate all things german apparantly'


thats putting words in my mouth. i didnt say you hate all things german. id be surprised and dumbfounded if that were the case

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Marek
Edited by: Marek  Apr 4, 07, 13:08  #102

Czesc, Anielko!

Tylko na piatku wieczorem jest zakazane, ze mezczyzna dotycha kobiete z powodu prawa Torahy

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Marek
Edited by: Marek  Apr 4, 07, 13:15  #103

Puzzler, (Thanks, incidentally, for finally having stopped with that "Mr.Marek,"
Frankly, your examples indeed feed into anti-semitic rhetoric masked as liberal "free speech" in the name of democracy.

Evidence??? History itself is evidence enough.
In the US, I'm not proud either of slavery or the KKK or of uncounted other matters, but if someone criticizes my country, I don't call them "anti-American"!
Incidentally, I love the Polish language and culture. Even a Polish-born Holocaust survivor admits that there are perhaps only three great Poles who rose above the flock: Frederic Chopin ("Szopin", if you prefer!), Jan Karski, who warned the Allies about the Shoah and of course, Karol Wojtyla, who would make me proud to be a Pole.

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anielka
  Apr 4, 07, 14:49  #104

Quoting: Marek
Czesc, Anielko!


Czesc Marek!
In deference to others who do not understand Polish but are interested in this, I'll speak English to You.
Thanks for clarifying one of my questions - but I need more explanation re Fiddler on the Roof on my query.
Aha, how do Holocaust survivors view or opinion Zhegota - surely this tops the list .What more could we do help You?
On a much smaller scale, my beloved Grandmama, hid Jews - only for a day or 2. Then they moved on, where ,their names she didn't know - until there was another tap at her door. She never talked about them but Tata a child was curious and observed. Much later she was stopped in the street by stangers, telling Tata they were acquantainces she had not seen for some time, yet these were acquantainces he did not recognise.
4 years in a displaced persons camp, emigrated to a foreign country and passed away in the summer of 1974. A saint, may She Rest in Peace.

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Marek
  Apr 4, 07, 15:34  #105

Thanks for your prompt reply post, Anielka!

Sorry about the Polish. (Force of habit, I guess). Your English, like Puzzler's, is rather good, I think. Presumably you have no difficulties with the subtleties of our language.

The Fiddler question is also interesting for me, although, don't forget; it's only a movie and therefore, not representative of reality.
Indeed, men and women are not allowed to touch one another on the Sabbath, but there are also other traditions too numerous to explain at the present time.

Off the topic, but on the topic of Polish culture, do you know Elzbieta Orzeszkowa? I love her short stories (which, of course, I've read in the original ).

Pozdrawiam!
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Bartolome
Edited by: Bartolome  Apr 4, 07, 15:35  #106

Quoting: Puzzler
Bartolome, yup, I get yer draft, but even if the Scottish folks scolded me, I wouldn't stop liking them. And if they and me talked, I'm sure they'd lose their alleged by you adversity towards me. Of all the groups known to me, only the Brits are capable of such good-heartedness.

Hmmm, my post was meant to be with some tongue-in-cheek, but you took it too seriously. Anyway, you must be very persuasive, since I have encountered reactions like 'F/in' Poles are everywhere' (But, luckily, these were minority). Talking about 'Britishness', I think that this idea is becoming more and more obsolete with growing nationalism amongst Brits, or perhaps should I say English, Scottish and Welsh people.

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ArturSzastak
  Apr 4, 07, 16:36  #107

Quoting: Crow
That`s how it is and that`s why we Serbs seek for hands of Mother Slavia. That is our ultimate respond on situation.



Well.....if you want one big slavic country that bad.....you can always become part of Poland

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King Sobieski
  Apr 4, 07, 17:36  #108

Quoting: Puzzler
It's a pity that the topic 'Germans file WWII claims against Poland' has been closed and nothing can be posted there. Hence I am opening this topic as a sort of continuation of the above-mentioned topic, namely, i'd like to address the rants and vulgar 'jokes' of the psychopath and Polonophobic racist calling himself 'a German.'


i asked the question becuase of the above post.

you seem to dislike german people, which is fair enough, but just wanted you to realise the lovely old lady that is the queen is german as well.

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Puzzler
  Apr 5, 07, 02:46  #109

To the feller with a royal nick. - Re: your claim I dislike the German people. You mean - all the Germans? If you mean it, prove it. Her Majesty is English, not German, as far as I know. You got evidence to the contrary? Give it.

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anielka
  Apr 5, 07, 06:58  #110

Quoting: Marek
do you know Elzbieta Orzeszkowa?

Marek,
Unfortunately, no- what are the stories about?

And Zhegota- what's Your opinion.

Czesc - and Happy Easter( even if it isn't)
Anielka.

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Marek
  Apr 5, 07, 07:40  #111

Anielka,

Orzeszkowa was a 19th, early 20th century, Polish author whose stories revolve around middle-class Polish life. Her language is lovely, e.g. "dlon" instead of "reka" etc.

Her Polish is not elaborate, but is almost like certain 19th century American writers whose names escape me at the moment.

I've never read Zygmunt Herbert, though. I enjoy Julian Tuwim and Jaroslaw Iwaszkiewicz.

Wesolych jajka!
Marek

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papafrita_ec [Guest]
  Jun 4, 07, 05:17  #112

I only hope Poland will get stronger so no country in the future will attempt to use them as crossroads towards a bigger nation, annulling their past or trying to change their people. I still do not understand why such rural, medieval thinking still has force in young people. It is sad.

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