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kaka
  Mar 29, 07, 17:19  #61

I meant "a German" the poster of coruse


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anielka
  Mar 29, 07, 19:27  #62

Quoting: a German
are you people stupid!


You started 2 World Wars and got your asses kicked - twice. Who's stupid now?

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ArturSzastak
  Mar 29, 07, 20:24  #63

Quoting: FISZ
Does everyone else find this immoral?

I don't think it'll ever happen.

Thoughts?



And how many Poles were moved from Belarus, Ukrain, and Lithuania??? If they get their land back, then we'd have to redraw all of eastern europe back to its original boundaries so nobody else would complain.

There's no reason they should get their land back....how much would the Poles have to get just to make it all fair???

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King Sobieski
  Mar 29, 07, 21:13  #64

Quoting: a German
We tell you what you want to hear....or how else do you think Germany became that rich and influential once again after WWII???


i know your in cyber jail somewhere but it was the amricans who plunged truckloads of money into germany after the war that made germany what it is today.

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Patrycja19
  Mar 30, 07, 09:40  #65

Quoting: a German
We tell you what you want to hear....or how else do you think Germany became that rich and influential once again after WWII???

God...are you people stupid!


funny how your mouth runneth over when you are behind a screen, but in real life
I very much doubt you talk like this or you would not be typing online .

MY grandmother in law is German, a war bride, and still has family in Westphalen
she said she as many Germans had nothing against anyone Polish. it was only
those who were directly involved that Hated and didnt even know why they hated
them . all I can say is, if you are like this because you think your supposed to be
then you are sad. no one is the lesser of the human race. What to me is really sad
is that there are still many who believe that hitler was a good man, and that
he did so much for the germans who were obviously blindsided by his words, which
I dont even see how they could not see the truth when the smell of death was all
around them. if the tables were turned and it was the germans who were being
exterminated at 100,000 a day and the poles and the russians taking land and
killing, I am sure they would be bitter too. Or would they move on?? hmmm lets
ask our studio audience # 1 German who knows all Mr. A German" lets all give him
a loud slappy Welcome folks!

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Patrycja19
  Mar 30, 07, 09:42  #66

Quoting: Patrycja19
Or would they move on?? hmmm lets
ask our studio audience # 1 German who knows all Mr. A German" lets all give him
a loud slappy Welcome folks!


Yes this is sarcasm! JFTR.

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anielka
  Mar 30, 07, 10:49  #67

Quoting: Patrycja19
hitler was a good man, and that
he did so much for the germans


The problem was that in the beginning he presented himself as such- even Poles in this time (not those in the know eg Enigma) assumed he was good. It was common knowledge he organised the sports/scout camps for the youngsters, uniforms. He got Germany out of the economic hole, gave them back a sense of pride, etc.

MFW, German polling agency asked 1235 adult Germans to give their opinion on their least liked country- Poland topped the list with 23% of this opinion.
Last year, PBS,Polish polling agency asked Germans what they thought of Poland - 43% had negative feelings and 23% having positive.

So "a German" is not the only one - but he came to a Polish forum, attempted to create angst and was dealt with, in the same manner he afforded us.

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daffy
  Mar 30, 07, 10:56  #68

Quoting: anielka
MFW, German polling agency asked 1235 adult Germans to give their opinion on their least liked country- Poland topped the list with 23% of this opinion.
Last year, PBS,Polish polling agency asked Germans what they thought of Poland - 43% had negative feelings and 23% having positive.



you poll irish on the same thing and it would be we hate the english! but the fact is its kjust not that kind of way. we all m ay have 'feelings' neg or pos but the end of the day the majority who are surveyed would not start a war over it.

that's reserved for a select group of deviants.

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anielka
  Mar 30, 07, 11:05  #69

Quoting: daffy
the majority who are surveyed would not start a war over it.


Who wants to start a war over it??

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daffy
  Mar 30, 07, 11:06  #70

Quoting: anielka

Who wants to start a war over it??



not me but there are people who seem to think the germans are pushing them and that all salvdom will revolt etc etc.

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Patrycja19
  Mar 30, 07, 11:38  #71

Quoting: anielka
43% had negative feelings and 23% having positive.


But Based on what?

what happened to them that they can have such negative towards Polish ?

Land taken back perhaps? money owed?

what type of feelings do they have for the United states I wonder? we came in
and bombed the heck out of Germany and my Grandfather in law was one of those
soldiers , my cousins were also there ( many of them) who came in and took over
and in Poland ( I forget the town I will find out) when one cousin who was at one
of the camps said the men were supposed to be happy because they had freed so
many prisoners, and they were not prepared for what they had found once they
arrived. it was horrible, and the moral was low because they didnt expect to see
such horrible sites, men were throwing up and depressed because they had felt
they had come to to late.

and you can ask any soldier who was at these camps like aushwitz how they felt
and they will immediately start crying. soldiers are conditioned to be tough and do
a job, but no one was prepared for what they found.

so bitter the germans are?? again, I ask why? what could they have possibly lost
those who are still bitter, not the whole german population because I know that
not all feel that way, but those who do, what reasons could they possibly have.

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daffy
  Mar 30, 07, 11:44  #72

Quoting: Patrycja19
so bitter the germans are?? again, I ask why? what could they have possibly lost
those who are still bitter, not the whole german population because I know that
not all feel that way, but those who do, what reasons could they possibly have.



exactly, again for the stats mention i should have met germans like this but have not

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Patrycja19
  Mar 30, 07, 12:48  #73

Quoting: daffy
exactly, again for the stats mention i should have met germans like this but have not


Daffy, theres even groups in the united states. I have one cousin whom I dont even
want to claim as mine, who is in a group like this. I found this out thru my searches
for family and he is Polish by our side of the family but also other nationalities, which
I dont know, I can tell you one thing, he has no regard for his own family, I would
never embarass my family that way, making himself known. Ive watched these types
of people and nothing stops them when they are on the move.

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Crow
Edited by: Crow  Mar 30, 07, 14:30  #74

Quoting: ArturSzastak
If they get their land back, then we'd have to redraw all of eastern europe back to its original boundaries so nobody else would complain.

Why only Eastern European borders? Why not Western, Northern, Southern- same way how some Powers doing with South-Eastern European borders (Balkan)?

It would be great party!


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AngloPole [Guest]
  Mar 30, 07, 16:12  #75

Chopin, Kopernik.....

Who defeated the Teutonic Knights? Germany didn't even exist until 1876.

Who would miss goose- stepping Prussians?

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larry casula
  Mar 30, 07, 17:19  #76

The Germans murdered an Uncle of mine in COLD BLOOD, and from what I have seen WWII they really didn't (most of them) didn't feel any remorse about murdering millions more, all because of one lunatic...OOP'S forgot the Holacaust never happened according to some.
I say go back to Germany and tak eit up with your own Gov't they were the reason if they did loose their land. From what I understand Poland used to be much bigger than it is now, so maybe we should get our land back.

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Many [Guest]
  Mar 30, 07, 17:33  #77

Now I hate german pigs even more. Thanks to that german rat. You schould see how media in Poland talk about germans. Delicious! Now I`ll go to german forum to insult somebody.

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daffy
  Mar 30, 07, 17:33  #78

Quoting: larry casula
From what I understand Poland used to be much bigger than it is now, so maybe we should get our land back.



russia, germany, britain could all 'say' the same :/

Quoting: larry casula
The Germans murdered an Uncle of mine in COLD BLOOD


A nazi, and im sorry to hear your of your families loss.

Quoting: larry casula
and from what I have seen WWII


How old are you? seen? unless your over 75 i expect you 'saw' nothing of WW2 sorry only the history books and the actaul people who 'saw' it. not being mean, stating the obvious.

The german people, like the polish, should consult there respective gov't you are 100% correct for issues rather than inflict randomn acts of hatred in person or on forums :/

Quoting: larry casula
Holacaust never happened according to some


who here said it never happened?

iwe know it happened. One of Humankind's many mistakes! liking using the atomic bomb as another.

it has to end somewhere and it wont end if you dont practise what you preach, (presuming your a catholic and were taught forgive and forget - yes it damn near impossible but trying is the key - to err is human to forgive is divine - while falling short on describing holocaust and nagasaki as 'err's the point is still present.

i forgive the crimes commetted by the english over 700 years of raping Ireland (and yes, my family too suffered loss - as the majority of the irish did)

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daffy
  Mar 30, 07, 17:33  #79

Quoting: Many
Now I`ll go to german forum to insult somebody



eye for an eye....smart

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larry casula
  Mar 30, 07, 19:39  #80

Quoting: daffy
who here said it never happened?


daf,
Was a rhetorical question and half joke,
Actually the Iranian Preseident (good luck spelling his name), he held a confereence in Iran and the Venezualean President Chavez attended it, I am sorry but there are alot of people who have actually come out and said this never happened.
Quoting: daffy
How old are you? seen? unless your over 75 i expect you 'saw' nothing of WW2

Also Rhetorical, No I am not 75 I am 45, I have seen documentaries on the war and seen what the Germans did to Jews and others in the gas chambers and also in the movie Shindlers List.
I did not say I did not forgive them, of course I do, its the insanity of the double standard I do not like,
#1) The invade Poland
#2) they kill, pilfer, destroy
#3) then the russians come and battle them back
#4) they loose their property that they stole
#5) the russians take it all away
#6) russians finally leave
#7) Germans want what never belonged to them
#8) Double Standard

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ArturSzastak
  Mar 30, 07, 21:00  #81

Quoting: larry casula
daf,
Was a rhetorical question and half joke,
Actually the Iranian Preseident (good luck spelling his name), he held a confereence in Iran and the Venezualean President Chavez attended it, I am sorry but there are alot of people who have actually come out and said this never happened



Actually larry, they never said it didn't happen, they just believe it dodn't happen on such a large scale. They think the actual numbers of dead Jews were close to 2 million rather than 6.


If a fourth of Poland's population can disappear in a single war, then 6 million Jews can be killed too. I have no idea where these Iranian and Venezuelan guys are getting their stuff, but they didn't see what went on. They heard stories. My family died. There's got rich off oil. They want to know what happened??? TAKE THEM TO AUSCHWITZ and show them what it looked like. Show them the chains where Jews, Poles, and Ukranians alike were tied to, show them the tables innocent people were tied to so "scientific" experiments could be performed on them, show them the chambers where millions died, and show them the ashes that still sit in the bottom of giant furnaces. They didn't burn wood for the hell of it, they burnt innocent people that were supposedly "inferior".

These guys can have all the meetings they want, but **** THE IRANIAN PRESIDENT!!!

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larry casula
  Mar 30, 07, 22:43  #82

Quoting: ArturSzastak
If a fourth of Poland's population can disappear in a single war, then 6 million Jews can be killed too.

I'm with you all the way Art, but on Fox News they showed them, even Arafat before he died denying the Holocaust happened and said it was made up ny the jews!! i am not kidding!!

And I agreee Hugo and Akmadinajad can **** each other til the day the cows come home to roost!!!!!!!!!!!

AMEN!!

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Patrycja19
  Mar 30, 07, 22:51  #83

Quoting: ArturSzastak
Actually larry, they never said it didn't happen, they just believe it dodn't happen on such a large scale. They think the actual numbers of dead Jews were close to 2 million rather than 6.


If a fourth of Poland's population can disappear in a single war, then 6 million Jews can be killed too. I have no idea where these Iranian and Venezuelan guys are getting their stuff, but they didn't see what went on. They heard stories. My family died. There's got rich off oil. They want to know what happened??? TAKE THEM TO AUSCHWITZ and show them what it looked like. Show them the chains where Jews, Poles, and Ukranians alike were tied to, show them the tables innocent people were tied to so "scientific" experiments could be performed on them, show them the chambers where millions died, and show them the ashes that still sit in the bottom of giant furnaces. They didn't burn wood for the hell of it, they burnt innocent people that were supposedly "inferior".

These guys can have all the meetings they want, but **** THE IRANIAN PRESIDENT!!!


Speechless!

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larry casula
  Mar 30, 07, 23:01  #84

Quoting: Patrycja19
Speechless!

you said a mouthful!!

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Patrycja19
  Mar 30, 07, 23:02  #85

Quoting: larry casula
you said a mouthful!!


yes finally someone shut me up tonight. lol

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larry casula
  Mar 30, 07, 23:03  #86

Quoting: Patrycja19
yes finally someone shut me up tonight. lol


Is it really possible??

We'll get you going again soon!!

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Patrycja19
  Mar 30, 07, 23:09  #87

Quoting: larry casula
Is it really possible??

We'll get you going again soon!!


I am sure of that. lol

Yes, Artur's post was amazingly so leadership like. I predict him as
our next senator!! for his state of course. Artur, dont forget me now. ya hear.

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larry casula
  Mar 30, 07, 23:11  #88

Artur for President..
Ya see Patrycja gotcha going again!!

ART for President!!!!

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daffy
  Mar 31, 07, 03:36  #89

Quoting: larry casula
I have seen documentaries on the war


then you have seen no more than i have.

Quoting: larry casula
but there are alot of people who have actually come out and said this never happened.


sure, i know that, but you should have the smarts to know these people have 'agenda's and scores to settle. I ignore these people. you should too. to listen to them is to give them what they want. (in part)

Quoting: ArturSzastak
Actually larry, they never said it didn't happen, they just believe it dodn't happen on such a large scale. They think the actual numbers of dead Jews were close to 2 million rather than 6.


a more factual quotation

Quoting: larry casula
#1) The invade Poland
#2) they kill, pilfer, destroy
#3) then the russians come and battle them back
#4) they loose their property that they stole
#5) the russians take it all away
#6) russians finally leave
#7) Germans want what never belonged to them
#8) Double Standard


The last two points are opinion. You have no idea that the German people 'want' poland 'back'

but its good to know you forgive them and wouldn't spit at them for no reason than for just being german.

Quoting: larry casula
I agreee Hugo and Akmadinajad can **** each other til the day the cows come home to roost!!!!!!!!!!!


what those two do in the privacy of their own homes is there business

Quoting: larry casula
ART for President!!!!


seems reasonable

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larry casula
  Mar 31, 07, 06:13  #90

Quoting: daffy
sure, i know that, but you should have the smarts to know these people have 'agenda's and scores to settle. I ignore these people. you should too. to listen to them is to give them what they want. (in part)

Absolutley Daffy, I was just making a comment on the post. There is alot of this that goes on in America, not the same issue, but double standards.
Quoting: daffy
The last two points are opinion. You have no idea that the German people 'want' poland 'back'

Was not refereing to they want it back, just the land they felt taken from them, not the whole country.
Quoting: daffy
what those two do in the privacy of their own homes is there business

Quoting: daffy
seems reasonable

I have 2 nominations, do I have a third????

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