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BubbaWoo
  Feb 18, 07, 15:20  #31

Quoting: Babylon
I mean what you feel in your heart when you think Germany or Germans


i would happily live in germany for the rest of my life... not sure how many other countries i can say that for... including the uk, poland, spain, france and australia...

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Ranj
  Feb 18, 07, 15:20  #32

Quoting: Babylon
what you feel in your heart when you think Germany or Germans, remember that Politician view originate from peoples, Hitler was chosen by peoples, they knew what was his politic view and they voted YES WE WANT YOU.

Well that would be generalizing too much....every German I have met, I have liked, but they didn't discuss their political views with me....I guess I'm a little partial to the individual as opposed to the populace as a whole.....most people hate "Americans" based on our foreign policy, but they tend to like individuals, regardless of their political affiliations.

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daffy
  Feb 18, 07, 15:22  #33

This is a terrible thread!

what have ze germans ever done to you?

I have not met a german I do not like! And do not paint them all for the past

We are all Europeans now and as such - like!

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Frank
  Feb 18, 07, 15:22  #34

Quoting: Babylon
I mean what you feel in your heart when you think Germany or Germans, remember that Politician view originate from peoples, Hitler was chosen by peoples, they knew what was his politic view and they voted YES WE WANT YOU.



Yes....but it didn't quite say in his manifesto ...exterminate Jews.....plus ruin all of Europe......did it?

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ola123 [Guest]
  Feb 18, 07, 15:23  #35

Quoting: Babylon

I mean what you feel in your heart when you think Germany or Germans, remember that Politician view originate from peoples, Hitler was chosen by peoples, they knew what was his politic view and they voted YES WE WANT YOU.



Well we have Giertch who is a nazis and you can say "Poles voted for him" which is true.

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Babylon
  Feb 18, 07, 15:24  #36

Just listen to his speeches, but this is not thread to talk, just vote YES or NO, so better stop discussion about Hitler.

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Maxxx Payne
  Feb 18, 07, 15:26  #37

Quoting: Ranj
most people hate "Americans" based on our foreign policy



I like your foreign policy.

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daffy
  Feb 18, 07, 15:26  #38

Quoting: Maxxx Payne
Quoting: Babylon
I mean what you feel in your heart when you think Germany or Germans, remember that Politician view originate from peoples, Hitler was chosen by peoples, they knew what was his politic view and they voted YES WE WANT YOU.


Hitler took advantage of a people that were down and out - you can get a hungary man do to almost anything for food! Hitler manipulated, the nazis manipulated to accomplish their MINORITY views. They told the german people what they wanted to hear and abused their trust.

There is no excuse for what the nazi's did - it was a crime. Do not paint all the german people for such. I wonder to accuse ALL americans for dropping the atomic bomb?

Move on mate! tackle real issue's like, rape, peodophila, vandalism, hooliganism! crimes of TODAY rather than this bullsh1t thread

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Frank
  Feb 18, 07, 15:26  #39

Quoting: daffy
This is a terrible thread!

what have ze germans ever done to you?

I have not met a german I do not like! And do not paint them all for the past

We are all Europeans now and as such - like!



daffy if only it was always like that...but I can guarantee you..if trouble arises...then make no mistake.......all old past differences/emnities will be raked over as if they happened just 24 hrs ago....

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Ranj
  Feb 18, 07, 15:26  #40

Quoting: daffy
This is a terrible thread!

Don't get your feathers all ruffled Daffy.....it's better than personally attacking members of the forum....no harm is being done.....look at it as Babs doing Poll work (no pun intended, Babs)

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daffy
  Feb 18, 07, 15:28  #41

Quoting: Frank
daffy if only it was always like that...but I can guarantee you..if trouble arises...then make no mistake.......all old past differences/emnities will be raked over as if they happened just 24 hrs ago....


Thats could be said of your brother frank - put in a situation outside of normal control! just watch 'lost'

Its part of why EU is about unity - so that it cannot happen again

'lest we forget'

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daffy
  Feb 18, 07, 15:29  #42

Quoting: Ranj

Don't get your feathers all ruffled Daffy.....it's better than personally attacking members of the forum



True LOL - im just adding to his POLL, giving my honest opinion

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Maxxx Payne
  Feb 18, 07, 15:29  #43

Quoting: daffy
ou can get a hungary man do to almost anything for food!



Yep, just wave paprika or pörkölt in front of him, he will do anything !

Sorry I just couldn't resist

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Frank
  Feb 18, 07, 15:34  #44

Quoting: daffy
Its part of why EU is about unity - so that it cannot happen again


Idealism at it best Daffy...but in yesterdays I Times....Russians quoted as saying their current enemies are Poland and Lithuania........EU may only be a temporoary entity...so you'd be surprised....!

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energ [Guest]
  Feb 18, 07, 15:35  #45

I was allways curious, why Germans disdain Slavs, especially Poles. Now I don`t care, because I know them better after a few trips. They are littlebrains who don`t know what school is. Sadly, in Poland many people think about Germans as morons. But not without reason.

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daffy
  Feb 18, 07, 15:38  #46

Quoting: Frank
Russians quoted as saying their current enemies are Poland and Lithuania........EU may only be a temporoary entity...so you'd be surprised....!


Id retort and call your view pessimistic.
And your quote is out of context. Russia did not say lithuania and Poland is Russia's enemy in WWII, Armageddon context at all! and Russia is not about to 'MARCH ON WARSAW!' so id add sensationalism to your post

the EU is an ideal! and its 50 years since! and it has achieved more than 5,000 years! or any empire or dictator could do! thats due to the power of democracy (with all its flawS)

Dont think the EU is going to crumble overnight frank

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Babylon
Edited by: Babylon  Feb 18, 07, 15:42  #47

Quoting: ola123
Well we have Giertych who is a nazis and you can say "Poles voted for him" which is true.


Giertych is not a Nazis he is just right-winged politician, who is not licking Germans just because "we have to" - he has his own view, antigerman view and I respect him. There is no proof he is a Nazi or Antisemitic - give me just one controversial thing he said?

Or maybe that he said that:

"Deportation of Germans from former German lands to Germany, as a result of peaceful solution to stop future possible multicultural conflicts is right and Germany has been punished and they deserve it" - Are those words - made him Nazi?

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daffy
  Feb 18, 07, 15:48  #48

Quoting: Babylon
"Deportation of Germans from former German lands to Germany, as a result of peaceful solution to stop future possible multicultural conflicts is right and Germany has been punished and they deserve it" - Are those words - made him Nazi?


a nazi under a different name would smell as sweet

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daffy
  Feb 18, 07, 15:50  #49

...that basically means, yes. Germany made its reparations (served its time for the crime) and MOVED on ages ago! germany was one of thr founding nations of the EU poland is now apart of!

and is funding (with the rest of the EU) polish infrastructe, CAP, et al!!!

telling germans to get out is ludicris!!!

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daffy
  Feb 18, 07, 15:50  #50

...and racist

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Frank
  Feb 18, 07, 15:57  #51

Quoting: daffy
Dont think the EU is going to crumble overnight frank


Emm....Daffy...how many common currency areas have there been in Europe in the last say 120 yrs...?....3....all of them failed....its a fact.....but I hope the Euro succeeds....but.....


Quoting: daffy
Dont think the EU is going to crumble overnight frank


No...but tell that to the romans....and the third reich....

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daffy
  Feb 18, 07, 15:59  #52

Both poor examples frank!

both were empires, run by masters and slaves

now your not a stupid person so i dont need to point out the differences between them and the EU.

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Frank
  Feb 18, 07, 16:05  #53

lol...Daffy...you aint patronising moi......are you now?

Anything can crumble over nite.........those were good enough examples...plus the 3 I gave re common currencies.....ok!!!?

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daffy
  Feb 18, 07, 16:09  #54

hehe Frank I dont think we agree on this

Rome and thre third reich didnt fall over night either :P Im saying they failed due to oppressive regimes. The EU is not.

The euro, i share your sentiments also that it may last. And Currencies you gave as examples, eh, you didnt mention any in particular or am i blind? what are these 3 other european currencies that have failed before?

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Frank
  Feb 18, 07, 16:20  #55

I don't have the details re other currencies Daffy....but hey were remarked on one nite on the box...soz........but think they were on the mainland of Europe.

Point re failure of made up regimes/alliances....good or bad ..is that nothing lasts for ever......

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daffy
  Feb 18, 07, 16:24  #56

Quoting: Frank
nothing lasts for ever......


never said they didnt just said the EU was a force for good (in so many words LOL)

i agree with you that nothing lasts forever, it can get better! (evolution baby! )

Be hopeful mo chairde

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Frank
  Feb 18, 07, 16:30  #57

The long view.....its typically cyclical....

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daffy
  Feb 18, 07, 16:33  #58

Quoting: Frank
The long view.....its typically cyclical....


ahhhhhhhhhh (screaming) Frank! we are doomed to disagree

Evolution, is not cyclical!

Education, is not cyclical!

the lettter E, is not cyclical!

Lol, sorry about the last point but the other two stand

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Frank
  Feb 18, 07, 16:36  #59

Excuse me Daffy........in order for someone to succeed.......some one must fail......you move tangentially during your posts.....

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Ranj
  Feb 18, 07, 16:40  #60

Quoting: Frank
in order for someone to succeed.......some one must fail......

I look at the weight of the world the same way......when one bitc...er person loses 5 lbs, my hips seem to find it.......'scuse me gentlemen, just thinking out loud (on a computer).....carry on.....

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