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Frank
  Feb 18, 07, 16:45  #61

Ranj...you're just looking for the male sympathy vote here....lol

A moment on the lips....a lifetime on the hips.......

But I don't believe you...for one sec...its just that Daffy et moi have bored you...true?

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daffy
  Feb 18, 07, 16:46  #62

Quoting: Frank
Excuse me Daffy........in order for someone to succeed.......some one must fail......you move tangentially during your posts.....


your excused Franck (just playing)

There is no tangent I can see. But i do see you making posts with claims you could not back up.
for someone to succedd someone must fail...

so magellian succedded in circumnavigating the globed - who lost out there?
the wright brothers invented modern day flighht - who lost out there?
the EU was formed - who lost out there?

it is the Failures of the past that pave the way for the successes i would say Frank. It is in learning from our mistakes that we achieve our greatest aspirations!

edison was interviewed about the '2,000 times he failed in trying to invent the lightbulb'

he replied, i did not fail, i just discovered 2,000 ways how not to make a lightbulb (he learnt from his past errors and moved on! like the EU and Evolution are the result of learning from the past!

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Frank
  Feb 18, 07, 16:53  #63

Tangentialism is alive and well in your mind.....in life..success.....for one guy to become a millionaire there has to be a pyramid of people under him ensuring his success.....every 100 people who go forward to play in a premier league team...only 1 will succeed.....getting my drift...my angle?

Of all the empires/alliances that ever there was...........how many are still on the go/lasted...eeemmm....think Daffy!

They evolve....in cycles.......meet the immediate needs of the time, then fail/ collapse.....longer view daffy...

PS Turn the light bulb out when leaving the board!!...

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daffy
  Feb 18, 07, 16:59  #64

Quoting: Frank
getting my drift...my angle?


Is see we are not thinking along the same plane

Quoting: Frank
Of all the empires/alliances that ever there was...........how many are still on the go/lasted...eeemmm....think Daffy!


THATS MY FRIGGIN POINT!! the EU is the realisation of the past instances and from learning from it!!! the EU is a far more flexible body that the empires of old and is ABLE to adapt and change as required through consititutional changes! yeeecsh

Quoting: Frank
They evolve....in cycles.......meet the immediate needs of the time, then fail/ collapse.....longer view daffy...


Dude, I can tell your not into science, evolution is not cyclical. it does not come full circle. It is a cycle?

Definition of evolutions include

# development: a process in which something passes by degrees to a different stage (especially a more advanced or mature stage); "the development of his ideas took many years"; "the evolution of Greek civilization"; "the slow development of her skill as a writer"

# (biology) the sequence of events involved in the evolutionary development of a species or taxonomic group of organisms

Quoting: Frank
PS Turn the light bulb out when leaving the board!!...
your funny, ill give you that

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Frank
  Feb 18, 07, 17:03  #65

Quoting: daffy
evolution is not cyclical


You brought up evolution...no evidence of this.....all these political entities are cyclical...believe me!

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Frank
  Feb 18, 07, 17:04  #66

PS Funny is an understatement..........

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daffy
  Feb 18, 07, 17:08  #67

Quoting: Frank
You brought up evolution...no evidence of this

I know i did, im not saying you did,

you said its cyclical when clearly it is not - even by definiton (see my post or google the darn definition!)

as to understatment, i dont know you well enough yet mate but i dont doubt you

as to political entities, yes i agree there are element *cough BNP *cough* but that is some people who cannot learn form history and/or move on to higher tolerances and see the bigger pic.

peace out

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Frank
  Feb 18, 07, 17:09  #68

Peace out......2.......

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daffy
  Feb 18, 07, 17:12  #69

awww peace, gotta love it.

oh wait.. i must be cyclical! WAR ON FRANK!!! !!!!!!!

just playing, i know what you mean - i hope you can just see what i mean? (not the evolution part - that is self evident DEF)

but that if we learn from the past and from our 2,000 ways how not to make a lightbulb then one day, we too, shall invent our political lightbulb!

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Frank
  Feb 18, 07, 17:24  #70

Daffy......is there a point to your post "peace out" posting....haven't you read the board rules section?....

Here you are coming back for more...........hhhhmmm....must google that........

No I'll stick to my view.......thanx...


"i did not fail, i just discovered 2,000 ways how not to make a lightbulb"..this was just a play on words..........but he was working towards a fixed end....politics...never gets there...hence the repetition of success and failures..........


"it is the Failures of the past that pave the way for the successes"...not really.......so all the wars that went before the WWI...ie the war to end all wars ......meant we shouldn't have had WWII.......pretty flawed logic there.....and you can't predict the future Daffy.....lol


"the EU is a far more flexible body that the empires of old and is ABLE to adapt and change as required through consititutional changes! yeeecsh"

No...the contrary..the bigger it gets the less flexible it will become........just look at how successful the nailing down of the constitution has been.....lol

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daffy
  Feb 18, 07, 17:30  #71

Quoting: Frank
.just look at how successful the nailing down of the constitution has been.....lol



heheh frank, it will be back, it will be revised and it will pass ehehehehehehehehehehe

i bet my bottom dollar on it...if i had a dollor.

frank, WWI was not called so until WW2 it was ;the great war; WW2 was called the war to end all was due to the shear magnitude of it, not because it was the last war..Yeesch! the worst part is, i think you knew that and said it anyway!

peace out! whats in the rules against that????

and YOU cant predict it (the future) either.

I hold a positive view for it

you would seem to hold a negative (i hope im wrong)

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Frank
  Feb 18, 07, 17:31  #72

No...longer view Daffy.....man has never really "learned".......be honest.....

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Frank
  Feb 18, 07, 17:32  #73

Quoting: daffy
WW2 was called the war to end all



No WWI...was the war to end all...

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Frank
  Feb 18, 07, 17:33  #74

Quoting: daffy
peace out



You called a de facto truce...I agreed..you went back on your word...now cyclical posting ensues...........31-0 to me.........no added time.....

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Frank
  Feb 18, 07, 17:34  #75

Quoting: daffy
and YOU cant predict it (the future) either.


No I am just learning from the past.......do try it.....lol

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Grzegorz_
  Feb 18, 07, 17:34  #76

Quoting: Babylon
I don't know, or did not specify

Frank
Grzegorz_
ont


I don't like.

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Frank
  Feb 18, 07, 17:34  #77

Quoting: daffy
you would seem to hold a negative (i hope im wrong)


Entirely.....

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Patrycja19
  Feb 18, 07, 17:34  #78

Quoting: Ranj
they knew what was his politic view and they voted YES WE WANT YOU.


not my grandmother in law, she hated him and so did her whole family, they knew
he was trouble BIG trouble!!

not all of the germans knew what was going on and he did hide alot from them
so I dont blame the whole german population for it. <~theres polish who follow
nazism ( I dont understand why they are idiots too) but I wont generalize
because I know there are people who didnt want any part of it and was sickened
by what happened. (they didnt say this because it was politically correct answer
either) .

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Patrycja19
  Feb 18, 07, 17:35  #79

sorry ranj, that was supposed to be for babylon post went all postal on me lol

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daffy
  Feb 18, 07, 17:35  #80

Quoting: Frank
man has never really "learned".......be honest.....


wow, and the award for most pessimitic view goes to.....

man has learnt, in many fields! (education, health, science, etc, etc) in a political sense too!
desptism, hereditary rule! dictatorships, republics, democracy

the all developed from the former, you could not have democracy today if it had not been for the socio-political history of mankind QED man has learned.

it is not the end of the learning and it is not perfect but it is a big improvment of the past
i think ill liver here frank, you can live in 18th centuary france under king louis!? tell me how the revolution goes?

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Frank
  Feb 18, 07, 17:39  #81

A famous historian was asked in 1989 ( 200th anniversary of same) what did he think of the after effects of French revolution...

His reply was .............its too early to tell...........

Learn from it Daffy.........say you will.....!

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daffy
  Feb 18, 07, 17:40  #82

lol frank your funny and i do agree the arguement is cyclical as we will never aggree but i had already pointed out WE are going in circles in an earlier post

the matter still remains, that evolution is not cyclical, it is slow and steady and progressive.
politics, is a more skewed beast due to the complexity of its nature...us!
but you deny that progress has been made when clearly it has!

the UN was created after the league of nations as it collapsed (the UN being an improvment)
WW1 was the war to end all wars in its day and so was WW2 in its, in fact - i wouldnt be surprised if all wars in certain times were described as such so neiter of us will ;win; that point but it s not about succeding and failing...or is it

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daffy
  Feb 18, 07, 17:42  #83

a famous baker was asked about how he prefected makeing the souflet.

he also said, its too early to tell! :P

youve JUST PROVED ME point! NON CYCLICAL BABY!!

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daffy
  Feb 18, 07, 17:42  #84

Quoting: Frank
Quoting: daffy
you would seem to hold a negative (i hope im wrong)


Entirely.....



cool, so your not negative on the view for the future (it cert seems an odd view)

what is it then|?

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Frank
  Feb 18, 07, 17:46  #85

daffy...you've proved my point...you're just going around in circles......but I forgive ya.....

You keep to evolution...I'll keep to the cycles.....

Perhaps we will both never meet...one day....lol....




Smokin'!

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daffy
  Feb 18, 07, 17:49  #86

if evolution is cyclical....when will we 'evolve' back (wouldnt that be DEvolvution) to fishy or monkeys or whatever!!!

Perhaps we will never meet...:'( you broke my optimism, you bast@rd (said in south park fashion buddy)

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josecitomadera [Guest]
  Feb 18, 07, 18:33  #87

I like Germans. They found me to be funny when I told them that their language sounds rough to me. They replied since Spanish is a romance language I would feel that. They told me they don't feel their language is rough and tough. They told me they like salsa music.

Interesting note: In the final days of Nazi Germany there were puertoricans in Germany playing mambo music. TRUE STORY.

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Kamyk
  Feb 18, 07, 19:17  #88

I like German beer and so far have nothing against Germans

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Huegel
  Feb 18, 07, 21:35  #89

Ich liebe die Piefkes. Sie stellen tolle Autos her.

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Eurola
  Feb 18, 07, 21:55  #90

Quoting: Huegel
Ich liebe die Piefkes. Sie stellen tolle Autos her.


Hmm? Mr. H. translation please.

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