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polishgirltx [Guest]
  May 24, 07, 11:35  #1

Would you get married only to get desired by you citizenship/or green card?

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Grzegorz_
  May 24, 07, 11:38  #2

No...

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polishgirltx [Guest]
  May 24, 07, 11:44  #3

why not?

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angel eyes
  May 24, 07, 11:44  #4

Quoting: Grzegorz_
No...

I agree with you G. certainly not

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FISZ
Edited by: FISZ  May 24, 07, 12:01  #5

Because Marriage is supposed to be sacred. Cheaters (system) don't win in the long run.

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polishgirltx [Guest]
  May 24, 07, 12:23  #6

It's not cheating if both parties know what is going on. Kind of like.... business is business. It takes about 2-3 years, then divorce, and everybody is happy.


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Grzegorz_
  May 24, 07, 12:57  #7

Quoting: polishgirltx
why not?


Why yes... ?

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polishgirltx [Guest]
  May 24, 07, 13:03  #8

Why yes... ?


To niegrzecznie odpowiadac pytaniem na pytanie.....

:)

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Rakky
  May 24, 07, 13:10  #9

polishgirltx said:
"It's not cheating if both parties know what is going on. Kind of like.... business is business. It takes about 2-3 years, then divorce, and everybody is happy."

Actually, it is - you're cheating a system. Marriage is not a business, although there's a lot of business in a marriage. Getting married for any other reason than to commit yourself completely to a partnership with a beloved person is disgraceful - to both of the marrying parties and to anyone else who plays a role in it. There is already enough divorce from people who really TRIED to make a marriage work - we don't need more from people who are "conducting business."

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polishgirltx [Guest]
  May 24, 07, 13:16  #10

That's true. So why people do that so often (fake marriage)?

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Rakky
  May 24, 07, 13:31  #11

Lying has become a commonplace way of life in America. We've come to distrust almost everything we hear - or at least take it with a very large "grain of salt." Most means to ends are tolerated and even thought of as acceptable, even though they are inherently dishonest. It's pretty sad, I think. I wish we could do away with all the BS and just be honest with one another.

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Wroclaw
  May 24, 07, 13:33  #12

Quoting: polishgirltx
Would you get married only to get desired by you citizenship/or green card?


No.

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FISZ
  May 24, 07, 13:38  #13

Quoting: Rakky
Lying has become a commonplace way of life in America. We've come to distrust almost everything we hear - or at least take it with a very large "grain of salt." Most means to ends are tolerated and even thought of as acceptable, even though they are inherently dishonest. It's pretty sad, I think. I wish we could do away with all the BS and just be honest with one another.

Who's they? You?

I'm not dishonest :) Do you really think it's inherited? Please do explain.

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moire
  May 25, 07, 08:19  #14

if you do like each other and have fun with each other, that maybe ok. otherwise everyday of the marriage is a torture.
balance what you get and what you lose from your heart.
but i wouldnt do that, i can get what i want from my own efforts, that is more respectable.

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Crypto
  May 25, 07, 08:24  #15

Big NO!

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Grzegorz_
  May 25, 07, 08:26  #16

Quoting: Crypto
Big NO!


True.

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Patrycja19
  May 25, 07, 08:30  #17

Quoting: polishgirltx
business is business. It takes about 2-3 years, then divorce, and everybody is happy.


wow, marriage and divorce is business, hmmm guess your values shot out the
door !!

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Patrycja19
  May 25, 07, 08:38  #18

Quoting: Rakky
Lying has become a commonplace way of life in America.


fiddlesticks!!!!

common place in America?? where you pulling this out of? a hat?
lying is common place all over the world.. why people do it, they have their own
reasons, but you cant place this label on America only..

everyone at some point in their lives have told a lie to either keep this person from
hurting or to hurt this person. but it isnt a American thang so please try to at least
be less sterotyping.. this thread demonstrates otherwise for sure.

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bzzzik [Guest]
  May 25, 07, 14:51  #19

Quoting: polishgirltx
Would you get married only to get desired by you citizenship/or green card?

NO way. It's dishonest.

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Rakky
  May 28, 07, 08:09  #20

Fisz,
When I said "Most means to ends are tolerated and even thought of as acceptable, even though they are inherently dishonest" - the "they" referred to the means, not the people who employ these means. I don't know why you ask "Do you really think it's inherited?" But, since you ask, I do not think dishonesty is genetic - it's learned behavior. We live in a culture where dishonesty is commonplace, so it is learned, not inherited.
Patrycja19,
I can't speak for "all over the world" - I only know America. I did not say it was unique behavior to Americans. I'm only sharing my American perspective - which I thought the purpose of this forum was - to hear perspectives from different countries.

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PolishAmerican
  May 29, 07, 20:01  #21

Quoting: Patrycja19
wow, marriage and divorce is business, hmmm guess your values shot out the
door !!


Amen.

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alan_uk
  May 30, 07, 12:54  #22

its basically wrong and you are just enforcing the sterotype that all immigrants are dishonest and grasping

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Amathyst
  May 30, 07, 12:58  #23

lol what do you tell a future partner, hey honey Im divorced I got married but ya know business is business...I certainly wouldnt want anything to do with such a person...just shows you what a low opionon of marriage you have, such a shame...

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alan_uk
  May 30, 07, 13:46  #24

low moral values a in general

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polishgirltx [Guest]
  Jun 1, 07, 12:23  #25

Wow!
I only asked about something i'm curious what you are thinking about and everybody jumped AT ME that i do not have any moral values. I didn't write it was my idea or i did it or i want to do that. I wanted to know your opinion.
Beside, if all of you think that it is so wrong and low, why people do that so often? Does it mean that thay say they wouldn't do that (like yoy, people!) but the truth is completly different?
And don't jump on me for something i didn't do!

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bunia
  Jun 1, 07, 12:24  #26

definatelly not !!!

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sapphire
  Jun 1, 07, 12:27  #27

so what was your reason for posting if you werent considering it? I know a Polish guy who married an American woman for a green card, he lived there 5 years but eventually got kicked out before he even got his green card and she clearly wanted more from it than just a business arrangement. Remember its not only immoral, its ILLEGAL. Not worth the risk whatever your morals may be imo.

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curlyspy007
  Jun 1, 07, 12:30  #28

Quoting: polishgirltx
And don't jump on me for something i didn't do!

dont take it to heart, you put the Q out and got the opinion of others about it...i too think its a low thing to do so its a big no from me too....

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polishblonde
  Jun 1, 07, 12:30  #29

it's definatelly a bad business transaction, but I'm sure it happens all the time. it's sad to think that 1/2 of marriages end in divorce.

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Wroclaw
  Jun 1, 07, 12:31  #30

Quoting: polishgirltx
polishgirltx


I didn't jump at you. I only wrote one word, ''No''

Everyone else gave you an honest answer.

Please relax, it's only a forum.

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