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Also, Too - także, też, również


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Joined: Dec 28, 09 ♂ 		 Mar 12, 10, 23:32    #1
When do you use each of them? Or are they all interchangable...meaning the same thing depending on what sentence they are used in?
Mateusz83  Mar 12, 10, 23:56    #2
Yes you can use them as you want (in most cases).
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Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂ 		 Mar 13, 10, 11:26    #3
Także can be used as therefore or thus. Też is standard but również is the word of choice in shops. Dziękuję, dziękuję również.
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Joined: Feb 21, 09 ♂ 		 Mar 13, 10, 11:36    #4
Most commonly used is też.

Również is often used to express that sth is "mutual".

Like Seanus said:

- Dziękuję
- Dziękuję również
Lyzko  Mar 13, 10, 14:46    #5
Same as 'Dziękuję nawzajem!'
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Joined: Jun 22, 09 ♂ 		 Mar 13, 10, 22:17    #6
There is a small difference between “też” and “także/również”. The first word is less formal. If you overuse “także/również” in everyday language it can sound funny for native speakers. Do not forget the difference between formal and informal mode is też important. Not only the meaning matters (-:
Lyzko  Mar 17, 10, 12:48    #7
Is then 'również' as a response to 'Dobrego weekendu!' or 'Dobrej zabawy!', for instance, therfore more "formal" than 'nawzajem' in the identical context?

:-)
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Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂ 		 Mar 17, 10, 12:50    #8
I'd say nawzajem in that situation, Lyzko. You could say 'ja również życzę Ci miłego weekendu' but nawzajem is shorter.
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Joined: Sep 20, 09 ♂ 		 Mar 17, 10, 12:52    #9
Or "wzajemnie".
Lyzko  Mar 17, 10, 12:57    #10
Thanks, Seanus! That sounds about right.
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Joined: Jun 22, 09 ♂ 		Edited by: Polish Tutor  Mar 17, 10, 16:00    #11
I would say we have a similar situation

Seanus:
'ja również życzę Ci miłego weekendu'

Nomsense:
"wzajemnie"

are a bit more formal ( "ja również etc." much more) than just "nawzajem"
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Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂ 		 Mar 17, 10, 16:10    #12
I don't feel the formality when I say it. With some words you can but not those ones. I think they are often situation specific.
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Joined: Jun 22, 09 ♂ 		 Mar 17, 10, 18:24    #13
formal informal is a bit coplex thing in Polish:
Let's have first names:

Przemysław
Przemek
Przemu¶

The first form is the most formal
and then the grade of formality is less and less.

Of course you can say Przemysław is formal (this form you can find on ID)
adn the rest is informal. But I can feel a difference.

I would never say to my close friend "wzajemnie..." or "ja również..." because he or she would answer me: You are funny man (-:
Lyzko  Mar 17, 10, 19:31    #14
How about Jakub, Kubek, Kubu¶....?
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Joined: Jun 22, 09 ♂ 		 Mar 17, 10, 19:38    #15
Jakub
Kuba
Kubek/Kubu¶

Usually the less formal version has a few equivalents. They are I would say equal.

We Polish people like to express our feelings (positive and negative) that is why formal and informal mode is so complex in Polish.
Lyzko  Mar 19, 10, 12:56    #16
"We Polish people like to express our feelings..."


I've noticed. LOL
Get six Poles in a room and you'll have seven or more opinions.
What's a meeting of the Swedish parliament? - A concensus.
What's a meeting of the Polish parliament? - Utter chaos
))))
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Joined: Nov 27, 07 ♂ 		Edited by: jonni  Mar 19, 10, 16:22    #17
Polish Tutor:
We Polish people

To quote a 19th Century diplomats' joke:

One Pole, a charmer
Two Poles, an argument
Three Poles the Polish Question
Lyzko  Mar 19, 10, 16:42    #18
There's a similar one about the Austrians.lol


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