The differences between rozumiem and pojmuje?

chazaThreads: 49 Posts: 266 Joined: Dec 21, 09 ♂	Edited by: Moderator Sep 19, 10, 12:08 #1
what are the differences between rozumiem and pojmuje thanks chaza

noreenbThreads: 4 Posts: 1,082 Joined: Apr 22, 09 ♀	Edited by: noreenb Sep 19, 10, 12:25 #2
Specific explanation? "rozumieć": - to understand "pojmować" - connected with a concept/idea/notion: so: I know how to solve it..., I catch it, I see, I now what you mean..., etc "Rozumiem o czym mówisz": I understand what you're talking about. "Pojmuję to ćwiczenie" used rarely today: "I understand an idea of how this exercise is made and what to do with it.

AdamKadmonThreads: 38 Posts: 1,120 Joined: Apr 23, 10 ♂	Sep 19, 10, 12:34 #3
rozumiem that is ja rozumiem - I understand. The Polish language is the so-called pro-drop language, meaning that you can drop a pronoun standing before a verb. It is possible because the function of pronouns is doubled by verb endings. pojmuję that is ja pojmuję - I comprehend.

alexw68

Sep 19, 10, 12:47 #4

Pojmować suggests to me greater (and perhaps more prolonged) intellectual effort. It's equivalent to English 'hands-on, holding' metaphors of understanding like 'grasp' (something you do with a problem once you have been 'grappling' with it). The colloquial English to get your head around s/thing is quite close here in meaning, if not register.

A couple of quick examples snaffled off google:

1) Jak chrześcijanin powinien pojmować rolę rodzin -> 'How should a Christian conceive the role of the family'
2) Nie pojmować otaczajacego nas świata -> 'Not to understand the world around us'

... both rather tougher tasks than, say rozumiem o co Ci chodzi.

Kamil_plThreads: - Posts: 69 Joined: Dec 24, 08 ♂	Sep 23, 10, 22:11 #5
Don't use "pojmuje". I don't think that I used this word in current year even once :) Maybe in humorous reason.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Sep 23, 10, 22:14 #6
Yeah, I've never used it before either. Didn't even know what it meant :)

pgtxThreads: 49 Posts: 6,327 Joined: Feb 14, 09 MEMBER ♀	Sep 23, 10, 22:16 #7
Kamil_pl: I don't think that I used this word in current year even once :) nie moge pojac dlaczego nie uzywasz tak wspanialego slowa!!! ;) PS - It is a rarely used word....

KsysiaThreads: 39 Posts: 545 Joined: May 6, 09 ♀	Sep 23, 10, 22:20 #8
'pojmuję' could be 'grasp'. pojęcie is more frequent: , 'in my idea'- 'w moim pojęciu'

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Sep 23, 10, 22:25 #9
In my idea????

zetigrekThreads: 59 Posts: 2,709 Joined: May 20, 10 ♂	Sep 23, 10, 22:47 #10
Seanus: In my idea???? I have no idea = nie mam pojęcia

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Sep 23, 10, 22:49 #11
I know that but I was questioning Ksysia. Nie mam zielonego pojęcia = I haven't the faintest/slightest idea

zetigrekThreads: 59 Posts: 2,709 Joined: May 20, 10 ♂	Sep 23, 10, 22:54 #12
Ksysia: 'w moim pojęciu' w moim pojęciu is an expression used when someone tries to pretend he speaks in intelligent way. It is a more sophisticated way of saying "uważan, że" ;DDD

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