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How to pronouce Szczygieł last name?


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VeneziaaThreads: 1
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 Oct 21, 07, 02:59    #1
Hi there,
I was wondering, how do you correctly
pronounce the last name Szczygieł ?
I am very interested, and I would love to know how to say it.
(and properly)
So i figured where else to learn how than
forums of the people who speak it!
I really want to learn the language, and a guy I met
has this last name...

Please help!
I would appreciate any help whatsoever. =)

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 Oct 21, 07, 06:18    #2
Szczygieł...


adilskiThreads: 6
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 Oct 21, 07, 06:43    #3
she cheh gehw..........
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 Oct 21, 07, 07:08    #4
[sh-tchay-giay-oo] :P
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 Oct 23, 07, 19:59    #5
Szczygiel

sz = sh (like in 'sh-eep')

cz = ch (like in 'ch-urch')

y = i (like 'i' in 'window')

g = g (like in 'g-irl')

i = ee (like in 'eel', very short 'ee' almost unnoticeable; it softens the 'g' sound)

e = e (first 'e' in 'estimate')

ł = w (like in 'w-indow')

I hope that it'll be helpful. :-)
Guest  Jan 20, 09, 14:20    #6
seagull is what it sounds like
benszymanskiThreads: 9
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 Jan 20, 09, 14:26    #7
Guest:
seagull is what it sounds like

Nothing like seagull. I think Tu_Ania has got the best description.
signingoff  Aug 20, 09, 23:23    #8
seagull is the correct way...i just had a customer with this last name and i needed him to pronounce it and it is "seagull"..i actually had to write it down that way because looking at it is crazy..lol
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Edited by: osiol  Aug 21, 09, 00:00    #9
signingoff:
seagull is the correct way

Some people don't know how to pronounce their own names.
I'm Oslo.
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 Aug 21, 09, 00:31    #10
"seagull"? This is a joke, right?

"seagull' is pronounced /ˈsiːgʌl/
"szczygieł" is pronounced /ˈʃʧɨgʲew/

Not a single sound is the same so how on earth this can be correct?
ShawnHThreads: 9
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 Aug 21, 09, 00:33    #11
Pio:
Not a single sound is the same so how on earth this can be correct?

Maybe the customer was a 4th generation American of Polish heritage, that doesn't have a clue how to correctly pronounce his name?
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 Aug 29, 09, 16:56    #12
Indeed, I'd say 99% of all Americans, including many Po-Ams, would say either something like Seegle (seagull) or Shiggle or simply ask: "How do you pronounce it?"
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 Aug 29, 09, 18:51    #13
Polonius3:
Indeed, I'd say 99% of all Americans, including many Po-Ams, would say either something like Seegle (seagull) or Shiggle or simply ask: "How do you pronounce it?"

I don't know any po-ams, but I doubt that very much. 'Szcz' is a common common sound in Polish.
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 Aug 29, 09, 18:52    #14
How to pronounce Szczygieł last name? No matter how hard you try, if you're not native you'll never be able to pronounce it properly, especially if your native language is English.
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 Aug 30, 09, 01:44    #15
Piorun:
How to pronounce Szczygieł last name? No matter how hard you try, if you're not native you'll never be able to pronounce it properly,

You are joking, right? Tell me what is so difficult with this word? I was very surprised when I read this. So I had to ask my Polish friend to listen to my pronunciation of this word, and she said I pronounced it correctly. And I have only lived in Poland for 2 years. So maybe you should think again.

Polish pronunciation is much more logical than many other languages. It's very difficult in the beginning, but there are few other languages (except Slavic ones) which have so consistent principles of pronunciation. So when you know all the basic sounds it's much easier than many other languages, where the pronunciation sounds almost random.
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Edited by: Piorun  Aug 30, 09, 16:54    #16
There's nothing difficult about this word or any other words in Polish language. If your mastery of Polish pronunciation is that good after only two years then you have something to be proud of indeed. In my experience I have not met a foreigner yet that could pronounce those sounds like a native, they tend to soften those sounds. All Poles with no exception will tell you your pronunciation is good if what you have just said is understandable without me having to think twice about what you have just said.
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Edited by: SzwedwPolsce  Aug 31, 09, 00:37    #17
Piorun:
All Poles with no exception will tell you your pronunciation is good if what you have just said is understandable without me having to think twice about what you have just said.

Maybe. Difficult to know. But it's good to notice that softness also varies among native Poles.

And to make it clear, I'm not saying that I can pronounce all words, and combinations, perfectly.
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 Sep 23, 09, 18:42    #18
Piorun:
if what you have just said is understandable without me having to think twice about what you have just said.

Actually, that's true in any language. It's called communicating. I still struggle with Polish but my friends and people in shops understand me, so that'll have to do until I reach the proficiency level. I figure that's only going to take another 117 years.
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 Sep 23, 09, 20:08    #19
here you have it:

http://www.expressivo.com/say/qFcEGCjF (the clearest speech)

http://www.expressivo.com/say/z5tiVmGb

http://www.expressivo.com/say/D1ZVYdvz

http://www.expressivo.com/say/o7vmYq1W

Four different voices to help you find the right pronunciation.
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 Sep 23, 09, 20:15    #20
beazee:
Four different voices to help you find the right pronunciation.

But they all sound like robots!
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 Sep 24, 09, 14:04    #21
ShawnH:
But they all sound like robots!

Yes, but you can still learn the sounds, even if you don't learn the melody of the language.
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 Oct 2, 09, 22:51    #22
shhchigiew. I had to pronounce this this week as there is a student with that name.
Lackqueen  Apr 10, 10, 02:56    #23
It's my maiden name & it was always pronounced "S jig yell". We always made it easier by saying Seegal.
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 Apr 10, 10, 12:08    #24
Ivona.com Maja voice



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