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The greatest Genocide in History: 100 Million Missing women today


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JuliePotocka
  Apr 29, 08, 20:02  #1

100 Million Missing Women

We can talk about the Holocaust; we can talk about what's going on in almost anywhere.

BUT - what about the missing WOMEN in the world!? The scales are unbalanced, and for what!? Simply so a man can carry on the family name? Those days are gone; women keep their names these days, if they choose so.

Just look: 100 MILLION WOMEN GONE, who should be here today.

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celinski
  Apr 30, 08, 09:46  #2

JuliePotocka:
100 MILLION WOMEN GONE


Thank you for this very interesting artical. The numbers are so high. I recently watched a show on a law being past in Africa making "Cutting" a crime. I never even knew this took place. It said the majority of young ladies (girls) are cut in the genital area to keep them as virgins until marriage. This procedure is so common it is done openly in the hospitals. Time for women to ban together and protect each other.

Thank you, Carol, USA

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JuliePotocka
Edited by: JuliePotocka  Apr 30, 08, 12:30  #3

Carol, there are THREE types of FGM: one where they barbarically remove the clitoris and the major labia, and stitch the girl up to where all she can do is urinate and bleed from a tiny hole - which the men desire much. Or they slice out the clitoris, so the woman can't feel any pleasure, to keep her the man's property. All is done with filthy razor blades by a 'midwife' type woman, who never cleanses her blessed items. The other women went through it, so why not their daughters? They will fool their daughters into coming back to Africa to go through this needless torture!

The 3rd way is the kindest: a small slice off the top of the clitoris, leaving it's function intact, along with the major labia, done only symbolically - but imagine if it were the guy's privates; it's tantamount to full on castration on the first two types!!

I support that group, in helping to stop Honour Killings, for the last 5 years...the lines must be drawn, and we are drawing them, NOW. None of the above is right!!

The lines are also being drawn with FGM, as it not only damages the girls physically, but mentally - and spreads HIV & AIDS, with their filthy blades.

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plk123
  Apr 30, 08, 13:18  #4

100mill, just imagine what the world food crisiswoul dbe like if they were all here.

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osiol
  Apr 30, 08, 13:36  #5

Some of the things that happen in the world make me sick. Honour killings, genital mutilation, infanticide...

One of the worst things about it is how deeply it lies in some cultures. There are so many women who are complicit in some of these acts, helping to reinforce these sick, twisted practises.

JuliePotocka:
but imagine if it were the guy's privates; it's tantamount to full on castration on the first two types

It is not the same thing, but there is something of a parallel with male circumcision. Think of how many westerners justify this with the same arguments.

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celinski
  May 1, 08, 12:52  #6

osiol:
One of the worst things about it is how deeply it lies in some cultures.


This is the hard part, teaching them how wrong it is. All the money spent in charities and they hurt themselves due to custom. Education is such a big part of this.

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szkotja2007
  May 1, 08, 13:35  #7

I think we all agree that honour killings are unacceptable.
Not wishing to be a pedant but why is this posted in the " Polish politics and History " part of the forums ?

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celinski
  May 1, 08, 13:41  #8

szkotja2007:
Polish politics and History


This mistreatment of ladies can really go into any post.

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szkotja2007
  May 1, 08, 13:48  #9

celinski:
This mistreatment of ladies can really go into any post

Oh, I see.
The article quotes 100 million and quantifies this by comparing ratios of males to females. If this was robust then Alaska would have the highest rate of female infantacide with Budapest the lowest (53% female to male ratio ).

Its a serious point being made which can be lost in sensationalism.

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joepilsudski
  May 3, 08, 15:57  #10

JuliePotocka:
Just look: 100 MILLION WOMEN GONE, who should be here today

Yes, this is a tragic situation...as I have written before, women are the 'unremembered' victims of unnacountable acts of mass/individual brutality...but, as I have also written, the only solution to these problems is the putting into practice of the teachings of Jesus Christ...which many women have never heard of and do not understand, or reject as 'outdated'...but it is really very simple: Love God first, then treat others as you would have them treat you...these 'rituals & practices' discussed are all abomination before God, and in fact signify the worship of another god, commonly referred to as the devil...you will see many young women in American society today practicing a lesser form of this 'mutilation', in the form of tatoos and piercings...it is a shame.

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JuliePotocka
  May 4, 08, 18:19  #11

Joepilsudkski, WHAT on earth!? Being a Christian has nothing to do with this, whatsoever - I take OFFENSE at you inserting that, into this conversation! You demean women everywhere, with your statements!! You disgust me beyond compare.

I have my ears pierced - it's been a family tradition, to hold pretty, shiny things. Thus far, I haven't suffered yet. I was given the option when I was 16.

But then, I think that you're talking about the more severe types of piercings and tattoos. Each to their own, I don't judge them, as many men have had them for decades. At least women general obtain something pretty, like roses or animals. Most young men go for creepy things.

Each to their own, when people reach 18, and choose wild tattoos or piercings - unfortunately, it can have repercussions on them having a job. BUT IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RELIGION!

As for the missing women:

It isn't just Asia, or the Middle East, that disregard female fetuses or babies; it's nearly the ENTIRE WORLD!! Even in my family, where I'm the only, it was frowned upon that I was born a girl! I cannot begin to tell you the pressures to have a son presented upon my parents. I was fortunate in that my dad told me I could do anything, and marry only the right man for me - not one I'm pressured to marry, and have kids with.

Sadly, to this day, men are still looking for women to propagate "their line" which I find disgusting, and puts too much pressure to have baby boys.

Does anyone see a problem with this? It isn't just the other countries, but I'm sure that in ALL civilized countries where you have ultrasound, that girls are at risk!

If those 100 million girls had come into this world, perhaps the WAR MONGERS would be less likely to act the way they do. China is coming into a real issue now, not enough women for their young men, unless they leave the country, or stay celibate.

And the crack about good thing about those women not being here - for shame!

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z_darius
  May 5, 08, 07:11  #12

joepilsudski:
as I have also written, the only solution to these problems is the putting into practice of the teachings of Jesus Christ...which many women have never heard of and do not understand, or reject as 'outdated'...but it is really very simple: Love God first

Those teachings were practiced for nearly 2 millennia. Some of the postulates of one of the most important figures of Christian faith, St. Thomas Aquinas about women:

- God created woman out of man and for man.
- Every female child is born through an ‘accident’.
- Women are not ordered to intellectual operation. (That is why St. Paul forbade women to teach or to have authority over men.)
- Women are subject to men.
- Women cannot represent Christ at the Eucharist.

A sample quote form the wise man:

As regards the individual nature, woman is defective and misbegotten, for the active power of the male seed tends to the production of a perfect likeness in the masculine sex; while the production of a woman comes from defect in the active power.

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joepilsudski
Edited by: joepilsudski  May 5, 08, 10:56  #13

JuliePotocka:
And the crack about good thing about those women not being here - for shame!

I don't understand this line...are you referring to me?...I love women, and I agree with you that they have been victims of abuse & slaughter...as far as Jesus Christ goes, He is totally relevant...no woman who beleives in Christ would participate in such mutilations, nor engage in any kind of ritual barbarity...these customs occur in societies that don't have Christ, societies that still are consumed by superstition and demonology...now, the women victims of this?...again, the Godless culture promotes such things, whether it be in Africa, Asia, Europe or America...I condemn men who participate in abuses of women such as prostitution, sex trafficing...but all of this is a sympton, not a cause...without God, human society descends into barbarity...also, I applaud your bringing these things to our attention.

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JuliePotocka
  May 5, 08, 19:53  #14

Okay, I get your point, Joe, I apologize.

Fortunately, there are women who do escape this, and seek asylum in other countries.

My own half nephew and his family are at a Christian Mission in Africa, to help educate the locals, and Christianity is not shoved in the locals' faces, according to them. They try and live by example. I don't live there, but that would be the appropriate way.

We can't go gung-ho into every country, and change their political and religious ways. It won't work.

Jesus was compassionate, and this is definitely a subject matter that is deserving of compassion, that crosses all lines.

Nearly everyone has a mother, sister, daughter - so they can empathize with the pain - and to end it, will be very complicated. It is often a tribal thing, that goes beyond religious ways, as is 'Honour Killings.'

Bringing the Tribal Elders into the 21st Century is WHAT must happen, along with Educating women, young girls, and teaching them to think for themselves. Reading & writing are things we take for granted, but is something miraculous for these girls, and secures them a future.

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joepilsudski
  May 6, 08, 15:46  #15

JuliePotocka:
My own half nephew and his family are at a Christian Mission in Africa, to help educate the locals, and Christianity is not shoved in the locals' faces, according to them. They try and live by example. I don't live there, but that would be the appropriate way.


Now, you begin to understand me...Of course, Christ should never be shoved in people's faces...Jesus said exactly the same...He offered Himself...people can then choose...but, as you point out, in the case of your family, it is Christians who are many times at the forefront of trying to bring people to a better way of life...this doesn't mean that 'secular' organization and groups aren't also doing service...As Jesus said, 'What you do for the least of your brothers & sisters, you do for me'.

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