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I had a Polish female friend. Horror in my mind...


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setmefree
  Mar 2, 07, 10:13  #31

That is very sad that i think she is using you to clear conscience, because you are the one of close to her. Typical childish women behaviour, she is doing it like she goes to the church.

you should stop communicating with her, it is the best for you and even for her to open her eyes and maybe hopefully gets her to a balance.

just try to convince her that she needs a professional help.

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krysia
  Mar 2, 07, 10:36  #32

The girl will sooner or later get a disease for sleeping around. I wouldn't waste my time on a person who does that because maybe in the future you guys would get married. She has been sleeping around with others before marriage and she will do it after she's married.
People don't change. My "X" slept around before marriage. I never did and stupid, naive me - trusted him.
He was back to sleeping around after a few years.

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Magdushya
  Mar 2, 07, 10:38  #33

good that you are caring person, but leave it for person which is worth your feelings i hope you'll find right one!!!


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shewolf
  Mar 2, 07, 12:42  #34

Quoting: Honesty
So here is my question, what is up with this girl?? Please don’t tell me all Polish girls are like this?


No, all Polish girls are not like that. Her behavior sounds a lot like someone who was sexually abused as a child, and by a grown man. It sounds like she thinks it's okay to be with older men and to show you the pictures. Someone obviously showed her that this behavior was normal. Why don't you ask her if she was ever abused?


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BubbaWoo
  Mar 2, 07, 12:48  #35

Quoting: shewolf
Why don't you ask her if she was ever abused?


obviously treading as such questions dictate...

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peterweg
  Mar 2, 07, 13:26  #36

Quoting: shewolf
Why don't you ask her if she was ever abused?


You do realise that most sexual abuse is done by a close family member and its not a nice accusation to make.
Besides its also an unfounded conclusion based very skimpy knowledge of the woman. A lot of women become promiscuous at some point in their life. I think its best to assume that she likes sex rather that psychoanalysing her from afar.


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Arien
Edited by: Arien  Mar 2, 07, 13:36  #37

I have a question for the fellow who started this thread, her name wasn't Barbara now was it? This all sounds awfully familiar..

Anyway, I wouldn't ever want to mess with people's relationships, but from reading all that, my answer for you would be that it would probably be a wise decision to wish her the best of luck with her life and move on.

Serious relationships are built on trust, and you don't really seem to trust her anymore, and I think you have a good reason for that. So.

Anyway, it's not my life, it's not my lover, so I don't know if you should listen to us.


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shewolf
  Mar 2, 07, 13:47  #38

Quoting: peterweg
You do realise that most sexual abuse is done by a close family member and its not a nice accusation to make.


Not always. Many parents never even know that their children are going through that. You wouldn't be accusing her family of anything just by asking her.

Quoting: peterweg
Besides its also an unfounded conclusion based very skimpy knowledge of the woman. A lot of women become promiscuous at some point in their life. I think its best to assume that she likes sex rather that psychoanalysing her from afar.


That's true. But it happens a lot more than some people want to believe. You should see the sex offender database in the US. It's overloaded with people who have abused children. But they're just the ones who have been caught. And here in the US the victims behave the way she is behaving. It must be different there?


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peterweg
  Mar 2, 07, 14:07  #39

The US has a problem with child abuse but that is largely because the country is so big. This woman comes from a small town where everybody knows each other. The vast majority of child abuse IS from family members.

I've spoke to quite a few women who's idea of a perfect man comes from fathers or brothers, not surprising that they become the model of a perfect man if that's the main contact they have when growing up. America is not a model for the rest of the world, I think.


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shewolf
Edited by: shewolf  Mar 2, 07, 14:21  #40

Quoting: peterweg
America is not a model for the rest of the world, I think.


Well, that's good to hear! Because the situation is very bad here.

Quoting: peterweg
This woman comes from a small town where everybody knows each other. The vast majority of child abuse IS from family members.


I see what you're saying. yikes.

A woman who goes out with such an older man and sends you the pictures is defintely not someone who understands or cares how it would affect you. She's definitely not someone who is ready to make a serious commitment to just one person.


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peterweg
  Mar 2, 07, 15:45  #41

Maybe she will in future. But thats what freedom is all about - making your own mistakes.


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Magdushya
  Mar 2, 07, 16:02  #42

Quoting: Honesty
I mean her family go to church every Sunday


Do you mean these kind of people like our crazy Mohair Berets?

youtube.com/watch?v=ni_n--NkK_A&mode=related&search=

Now all you try to guess why some of poles don't wanna go home........


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Annia [Guest]
  Mar 2, 07, 16:06  #43

Quoting: shewolf
Her behavior sounds a lot like someone who was sexually abused as a child, and by a grown man.


Thats just a myth, not all women that are as follow:-

Confused
like sex
like older / younger people
have issues
want to make a statment by their actions

The whole abused thing is just an excuse or an explination for people who can't quite understand why people, do what they do, not everyone that acts 'out of the norm' has been abused!.

Annia

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Huegel
  Mar 2, 07, 16:30  #44

marchewka


excellent insight. do hope you consider registering here. I think you'd be a great addition to the ranks.

Carry on...

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Annia [Guest]
  Mar 2, 07, 16:38  #45

what about my comments!

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marchewka [Guest]
  Mar 2, 07, 16:58  #46

Annia,

your comment makes a lot of sense and I agree with you that not all people who behave like this girl were sexually abused. I think that there is too much stress at times to find an explanation for every kind of behaviour which is ouside of the box.
Having said that, sexual abuse is much more common that we like to admit and I agree with Shewolf that most of it is done by the family members or somebody close to the victim. However, in this case it would too much of speculation.

Huegel,
thank you very much. I might consider it in the future

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shewolf
  Mar 2, 07, 18:09  #47

Quoting: Annia
Thats just a myth, not all women that are as follow:-

Confused
like sex
like older / younger people
have issues
want to make a statment by their actions

The whole abused thing is just an excuse or an explination for people who can't quite understand why people, do what they do, not everyone that acts 'out of the norm' has been abused!.

Annia


Annia, are you from Poland? In English, when you say "it sounds a lot like", you mean that it resembles it, not that it's true. So, I didn't mean that it was true but that it resembled it.

But it definitely does happen to some women. I know sooooo many women who experienced abuse and it affected their behavior. One of my friends was so troubled that she was constantly going to see a psychiatrist and today she is mentally ill. That's an extreme case, of course, but it's not just a myth that it affects behavior


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shewolf
  Mar 2, 07, 18:18  #48

Quoting: marchewka
and I agree with Shewolf that most of it is done by the family members


peterweg said that.

But anyway, I can't even begin to tell you how many girls I know who have been through picture-taking sessions with men who were 30 years older than them. And when they grew up they repeated the behavior and showed the pictures off like it was no big deal.


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lovely
  Mar 2, 07, 23:04  #49

There's nothing wrong with a young woman dating a man much older than her. I really don't think age matters if you really connect with someone.


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KnownToTheForu [Guest]
  Mar 3, 07, 01:44  #50

Quoting: Magdushya
Now all you try to guess why some of poles don't wanna go home........


Because they are scared of grannies?

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jimbo
  Mar 3, 07, 09:19  #51

Quoting: lovely
There's nothing wrong with a young woman dating a man much older than her.



I thank you for that lovely ! I too am dating a younger woman from Poland 14 years younger ! nothing wrong with it !


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szkotja2007
  Mar 3, 07, 09:30  #52

Quoting: lovely
There's nothing wrong with a young woman dating a man much older than her.

I agree, there are a lot of benefits for both.

Best of luck to you Jimbo - not that you need it.


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Annia [Guest]
  Mar 3, 07, 09:38  #53

Quoting: shewolf
Annia, are you from Poland? In English


I also know two people that were sexually abused, one by her grandfather from a young age (9 months old!) the other by the babysitters son - neither slept about, quite the opposite, both men their partners at 16 and are married with children.

I have other friends who have never been abused who treat sex like a sport

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Annia [Guest]
  Mar 3, 07, 09:39  #54

my point was you cannot slap a label on something or someones behaviour.

and No I am not Polish

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Magdushya
  Mar 3, 07, 10:03  #55

Quoting: KnownToTheForu
Because they are scared of grannies?


Absolutely! If she is involved in environment like this...brrrrr. Is she from big city of from a small town?


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BubbaWoo
  Mar 3, 07, 10:55  #56

Quoting: Annia
I have other friends who treat sex like a sport


phone numbers....?

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FISZ
  Mar 3, 07, 11:00  #57

Quoting: Annia
I have other friends who have never been abused who treat sex like a sport

Rugby or golf ?


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peterweg
  Mar 3, 07, 11:02  #58

Quoting: FISZ
Quoting: Annia
I have other friends who have never been abused who treat sex like a sport

Rugby or golf ?


Horizontal jogging


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Annia [Guest]
  Mar 3, 07, 13:03  #59

Quoting: FISZ
Rugby or golf ?


I suppose there are odd shaped balls involved

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Annia [Guest]
  Mar 3, 07, 13:05  #60

Quoting: BubbaWoo
phone numbers....?


Im not sure you would be able to keep up with them They've been in training for some time now

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