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Happy Eid to all the polish people


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adilski
  Oct 13, 07, 05:47  #1

peace and blessings to all the brothers and sisters on this special occassion

eID mubaRAk

 
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Bartolome
  Oct 13, 07, 10:59  #2

Happy to you too, whatever it means.

 
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osiol ♦ GOLD MEMBER
  Oct 13, 07, 11:06  #3

Quoting: Bartolome
whatever it means

I think it's the fun bit after Ramadan.

 
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Bartolome
Edited by: Bartolome  Oct 13, 07, 11:16  #4

Quoting: osiol
I think it's the fun bit after Ramadan.

Ahh, is there anything you don't know Mr Osiołek ? :)

 
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Daisy
  Oct 13, 07, 11:59  #5

Quoting: osiol
I think it's the fun bit after Ramadan.


It is, it's when teh fast of Ramadan is over

I know an Indian corner shop that puts up coloured lights and decorations, with a "happy Eid" sign in the window.
When Eid has finished, he leaves the decorations and lights up, but changes the sign for "Happy Diwali" ...
when that is finished, he swaps the sign for "Happy Hannukah" then when that is over , he swaps that sign for "Happy Christmas"

 
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osiol ♦ GOLD MEMBER
  Oct 13, 07, 13:08  #6

Quoting: Bartolome
is there anything you don't know Mr Osiołek ?

Yes, but I don't know what it is.

Quoting: Daisy
he swaps that sign for "Happy Christmas"

Then there might be a 'Happy February the 29th' for next year.

 
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Bartolome
  Oct 13, 07, 15:05  #7

Quoting: Daisy
I know an Indian corner shop that puts up coloured lights and decorations, with a "happy Eid" sign in the window.
When Eid has finished, he leaves the decorations and lights up, but changes the sign for "Happy Diwali" ...
when that is finished, he swaps the sign for "Happy Hannukah" then when that is over , he swaps that sign for "Happy Christmas"

Daamn, perhaps I should switch to all of these religions. With all that P.C. in the UK I'd have plenty of free time then :)

 
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Daisy
  Oct 13, 07, 15:17  #8

Quoting: Bartolome
Daamn, perhaps I should switch to all of these religions


You might end up fighting with yourself

 
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Bartolome
  Oct 13, 07, 15:31  #9

Quoting: Daisy
You might end up fighting with yourself

I don't need any religion to do that !

 
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spiritus
  Oct 14, 07, 15:17  #10

Quoting: adilski

peace and blessings to all the brothers and sisters on this special occassion


"brothers and sisters" in the general sense or are you just referring to fellow Muslims ?

If it's the former then thankyou and a happy Eid to you and your family. If it's the latter then I'll be putting you on my Christmas card list :)

 
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adilski
  Oct 15, 07, 14:14  #11

nice to hear people hae knowledge of this occcasion.. its to celebrate ramadan.. this should atually teach people to care for the poor, increase patience, love for humanity.... fellow extremist thinking people.. dont kill anyone... dont use violence... have love.. that is what islam teaches...

peace and blessings..

love....

 
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Crnogorac
Edited by: Crnogorac  Oct 15, 07, 14:20  #12

Quoting: adilski
Happy Eid to all the polish people


Eid(Bajram) cannot be observed with Christmas!
Is that not so, Polish brothers?

 
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adilski
  Oct 15, 07, 14:27  #13

Quoting: Crnogorac
Eid(Bajram) cannot be observed with Christmas!
Is that not so, Polish brothers?

christmas is a time when the spirits are alive, we care for our loved ones, we meet and greet them.. this is what happens in eid occasion.. but i dont understand can eid be observed with christmas... why would it.. its like beer and vodka, chicken and lamb... each has its own purpose..

 
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Daisy
  Oct 15, 07, 14:29  #14

Quoting: Crnogorac
Eid(Bajram) cannot be observed with Christmas!
Is that not so, Polish brothers?


The birth of Jesus is in the Quran as well as the bible as Islam regards Jesus as a prophet, so anyone who celebrated Eid could also recognise teh birth of Jesus as a signicant event

 
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adilski
  Oct 15, 07, 14:37  #15

Quoting: Daisy
The birth of Jesus is in the Quran as well as the bible as Islam regards Jesus as a prophet, so anyone who celebrated Eid could also recognise teh birth of Jesus as a signicant event

actually you are very very correct (thats incorrect grammar - sorry) jesus (peace be upon him) known as Isa in the arabic language is highly regarded as one of the most important prophets of islam teaching people the word of god - oness of the creator..
in the koran we have an entire chpater dedicated to the great mother og jesus, she is regarded as one of the greatest women on earth for her piety and purity..
in islam we have information about jesus's birth roughly taking place around early autmn this is becasue mary (peace be upon her) was giving birth under a tree that gives specific dates that fell down and she ate... we also have been told that jesus could speak from the 2nd day.
we love jesus as we love all of gods prophets. peace to him..
we also beleive he will return to earth and there is actually a grave waiting for him in madina where he will die as a human and be buried.
islam is a continuation of chritianity.. the message continues and has completed with the koran.. islamic beleif only

 
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Hmmm
  Oct 15, 07, 15:28  #16

Quoting: adilski
islam is a continuation of chritianity..


It can't be. Islam upholds the belief that Yeshuah the Messiah didn't die on the cross. Whereas the death of Christ is the basis of salvation for the Christians.

Jesus thrice foretold his death in Jerusalem as plainly as ever to his disciples. Peter, on one occasion, took him aside and rebuked Jesus for talking about his death, forbidding that that should ever happen. Jesus turned around and told him - "Get thee behind me Satan, you are a stumbling block to me, for you are not setting your mind on the things of God, but on the things of men."

Clearly Jesus judges Peter's attempt to thwart the sacrifice of the lamb of God as an inkling from Satan. And a religion that denies the death of Jesus on the cross can't be a continuation of Christianity. There is a conflict of the fundamentals.

Christianity believes in the death and resurrection of the Messiah, Islam doesn't believe the death occured. Christ called the attempt - to negate the importance of his death - satanic. Since Islam doesn't endorse Christ's views regarding his death, that's where the real divide takes place. And despite the fact that the rest of the Islamic principles and tenets are in close sync with Christianity, the fracture is at the foundational level.

This is just my observation, I don't want it to spiral into a religious debate. There are other forums for it.

 
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adilski
  Oct 15, 07, 16:50  #17

Quoting: Hmmm
This is just my observation, I don't want it to spiral into a religious debate. There are other forums for it.

sure mate, but it is nice to discuss things just to get closer as human beings..

u r indeed correct on your account of the situation with jesus christ.

firstly the verification and integrity of the bible is wuestionabel as it was first recorded around 100 years after the 'death' of christ in a language that was not spoken by the people. second of all there are conflicting accounts in the new testament.

in the quran it is said that jesus was on the cross but the creator lifted jesus up tp the heavens and replaced him with someone who looked like him....
all monotheistic relgions continue and as we beleive jesus also preached the oness of god and so did muhammad then there is the connection...

i dont want to casue agression to the catholic community as i have great respect but iw ould liek to leanr form people who have knowledge - there are coptic chrisitans in the middle east who are beleived to be followers of christ they have said that john was a phrophet and also jesus was these are known as coptic christians...

 
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Crnogorac
Edited by: Crnogorac  Oct 15, 07, 16:56  #18

Quoting: adilski
islam is a continuation of chritianity.. the message continues and has completed with the koran.. islamic beleif only


And so began the devil's Messiah
to offer them sweetmeats of his false faith.

For all Polish converts to Islam:

May God strike you, loathsome degenerates,
why do we need the Muslim faith among us?
What will you do with your ancestors' curse?
With what will you appear before Jan Sobieski
and before all other Polish heroes,
whose names will live as long as the sun shines?

KING JAN SOBIESKI

 
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Hmmm
  Oct 15, 07, 19:57  #19

Quoting: adilski
adilski


Adilski, repect man! You're a sensible bloke. The ingredients to start a fiery debate are all around us - volatile emotions, sulphur-tipped tongues, scorching opinions. I see you steering clearly away from it. Good choice. I'm following suit. I'd rather people use PF to learn than burn. Religion is a subject that gives a person a sense of righteousness when he/she defends it; so in a way he/she justifies his/her aggressive hatred as a commendable act. It's a human trait. Arguably, we're called to be divine. So peace be with you. :))

 
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Crnogorac
Edited by: Crnogorac  Oct 16, 07, 16:38  #20

Quoting: adilski
firstly the verification and integrity of the bible is wuestionabel as it was first recorded around 100 years after the 'death' of christ in a language that was not spoken by the people. second of all there are conflicting accounts in the new testament.


You, Effendi, clearly failed to divine
the reason for your greeting to the Polish people,
and you started therefore from the wrong end.

Yet you are wise and a writer, they say.
You attended the school in Istanbul
and paid visit to some sort of Mecca,
yet more wisdom you're surely in need of.

This school of ours is harder to master.

In the name of my fair faith, I wonder
what reproach there you are making, adilski!
Have you e'er seen a cup to hold two drinks,
or seen a cap to fit two heads at once?
A small brook runs into a larger stream,
on emptying, it loses its own name;
at the seashore both lose identity.
Are you trying to catch bees in your cap
and with it start a beehive in the woods?
From such beehive no one will eat honey!
You are pushing a stone up hill in vain!
An old tree breaks before it is straightened!
Animals are very much like people.
Each living sort has its own character.
I don't ask 'bout the hen and the eagle,
but does, pray tell, a lion fear a goose?

Since you claim to know so much about the flaws of Christianity, care to enlighten us infidels how old was Aisha the youngest wife of the prophet, when he married her?

 
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jareck [Guest]
  Oct 18, 07, 08:34  #21

Happy end of ramadan, i think this is what this celebration is to do with

 
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a1makji [Guest]
  Oct 18, 07, 09:39  #22

khaar mubarak dude

 
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jareck wrotko [Guest]
  Oct 18, 07, 09:44  #23

Quoting: a1makji
khaar mubarak dude

is that the name of the celebration, khaar? what is eid?

 
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a1makji [Guest]
  Oct 18, 07, 09:56  #24

k muslims fast for 30 days eid is to celebrate the end of the 30 day period

thoght there is another eid where we sacrifice goats thats 3 moons away

 
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