he has to be Polish ...

I'd say the English are more fukk*d up than the Polish people are. You just want them to act in a way you would like them too! They are Polish, you are living in Poland, simple as that ! You may not like most things you see but then again I am sure a lot of foreigners do not like the English way either. You are no expert on the Polish people, you have some experiences and you have shared them, that's it really no matter how much you rant or rave or profess to be some sort of expert on different cultures, peoples and their Countries.

Some changes have p*ssed you off so in your eyes it is alright to spout off in the way you have been doing.

So typically english innit, moan , moan , moan when things don't go the way they want them too or they have a bee in their bonnet and some just lash out on anything or anyone. Nuff said really .

I am aware of BubbaWoo. I don't always agree with him, he doesn't usually insult me. Like one or two of his Polish polar opposites, he's not afraid to speak his mind, and that is something I appreciate. I prefer not to use insulting language, and I'd prefer it if other people didn't either, but we can't help what other people do. If someone calls me a ****, I don't immediately have to call them a **** back.


The point I am making is this: I have a feeling it is much easier in the UK as a foreigner, to set up your own business, deal with officialdom and so on. How easily can a foreigner in Poland open up a shop or start a company? You don't need to be an economist to know that.

In my place of work, there are people from all kinds of places. Every employee has the same terms and conditions of work. The Polish chap is paid the same as everyone else who does the same job as him. He is treated fairly.


Am I being typically English too?
More ****ing tea, vicar?

Osiol , it's never been easy to be a foreigner in the UK. That is your feeling, your perception as someone who has lived in the UK all their lives. You see things from your point of view.

You are assuming things are worse the other way round. Why ? Because the person is English and of course if they say it is worse then it has to be ! I have not used any insulting language merely used similar language to another poster but not insulted any one person in my posts. I have said it like it is as well.

You are being typically English , yes, but you are an extremely nice donkey so can be forgiven for that. :)

thats a really good point

heres another one.

if you are going to post anonymously then dont use language that easily identifies you.

it defeats the purpose and shows you dont have the cojones to say something to my face

I'm not attempting to hide who I am. If I was I could easily disguise my writing style. I have never had the intention of doing that. I'm not a member anymore so will use any nickname I feel like doing. I never hide from anyone and I am always happy to debate issues and speak my mind like some other posters on here do.

I just couldn't sit here and read what I have this evening without making a comment. I have never hidden from anything or anyone in my life and certainly you are no threat to me.

I doubt that he has friends in Poland. That is why he spends so many time here moaning about Polish nation. When I look on his activity here - I know why.

For me he is not partner for debate. He just can't debate.



I have seen some Italian, Greek, Arabs, Irish English people who have businesses and friends here.



I am sure that Polish employers don't pay less for English, German or Czech people than for Poles.

After BubbaWoo confession about reaons of being here I don't know what should I think about him. Simple sick person. Not English not Spanish not Polish. Sick person is sick person.

Yes.


Which person?


So that's what English people do? For me to say something is worse than it is, what does it have to be? Anything other than English? As if I can't say that anything English is worse than a foreign equivalent?


You have said it as you perceive it. Just as I have said it how I perceive it, and other posters do likewise.


Thanks, but the vicar spat the tea out, scratched his nuts and demanded some more of those '****ing sandwiches'.

Osiol. I have to clear down soon so this will have to be my last post tonight. but you are taking things out of context a bit in the way you have split up my previous post.

Where I said 'I have said it like it is as well' that was in response to your comment that some people or a person wasn't afraid to speak their mind. That's what I was saying as well. I am not afraid to speak my mind either.

I have made comments based on real experiences which started the day I was born and trust me, I have had many experiences in the UK. Thing is Osiol, you just 'feel' that it is easier for foreigners here BUT you do not base it on any real experience. In Bubba's case he has experienced the things he is talking about.



You've taken that out of context too. Hmmm. If you wish me to respond then please do not take things out of context as in my opinion, it distorts the discussion as it wastes time and effort when all one wants to do is to reply and debate to the issue/issues in a more meaningful manner and move forward with the topic.

Night all :) Have a nice evening , what's left of it .

funnily enough ive had many experiences there too and lets face it, england is not a particularly nice place to live now or plan for a future in. which is why so many natives are leaving in their droves.

and as with most steroetypes, there is much truth in those for the english and there is undeniably a large part of english society which, to quote you, is fukk*d. but you know what, ive got no problem with admitting that and i dont feel the need to deny or look for excuses.

ive got pride in my country, im proud to be english. but my pride is not so blind that i am unable to see the faults england and its people have. i am proud of england's history, but my pride allows room for shame at what has been done in her name. i am proud of the role england plays on the current world stage, but i am still able to critisise our governments actions. i am proud at the socio-economic development that england does, but i am still able to see the incompetence

so tell me, why is it so difficult for poles to acknowledge their country has faults without the need for constant denial. why did it take endless discussion on the forum just to reach the possibility that maybe some poles might have once locked some jews in a barn and set fire to it. why is it so hard to acknowledge that polish roads are horrific and witness countless fatalities daily. why is it so hard to get admission of the suspicion, greed, underhandedness. why is it so hard to accept that there might be reasons for all the animosity they feel directed at them. why is it so hard to accept that 60 years of communism had an impact on society that is still very much alive?

Have a good night

now we are going to see converted penitent after mental atack O.o

to the next time when he will explode.

do you take it up the gary, jurex?

I think he sticks blue-tac up his ass for protection, maybe a copy of the bible down his jocks....

I would like to say that that sometimes we need to vent, so be it....


Life goes on, that is just in case you people missed it.

Yes, I am happy. And I have no reason;). Maybe a couple of good people I have around me make a differance, but that is it.

Reading back in the thread made me reflect on this. Hmm. I vary on opinion here.. but it strikes me - if you concede there are cultural differences between countries and even in appearances...then there is sense in a general preference. No? Not to say it is the same all round, each person is different. But if you can say Polish people are more family orientated [something I have read on here for example, I can't remember who said it], then you can say you like people with a strong familial bond and lead to a preference. Makes some sense to me, but still it is not how I choose.

In the OP's case - you say you want your kid to speak Polish. Well you speak it yourself so.. and is there no option for contact between the fathers and the children as oppose to finding another Polish man? If you do and he loves you then great, but I agree with others it could be better for you to widen the net a little and go for love [could be somebody Polish even so..].

I have been saying this to my friend Jacek (we'll call him that...because it's his name... ;) for a while. He is adamant that he will only be with a Polish girl. I know he has feelings for someone who isn't Polish but he has been fighting them for over a year now. I think his attitude is wrong. I've told him, so far, sticking with Polish girls has done him no good. His ideal is to fall in love, get married, have a family. I know this other girl (who he fights his feelings for) will give him all this but she is not Polish so he doesn't think it could ever work. "Open your eyes!" I tell him, but does he listen? Does he heck as like! :)

However, I know that I have preferences and there are many types I will not consider, even if in doing so I let my soulmate drift by. How would I know?

I guess we all feel we know what is best for us. It is such a shame when he has feelings for that woman! Maybe one day he will realise he can't do without her ;) Or maybe it is something he will simply live to regret.. then again for all I know he will meet a Polish woman he falls for. All the best to him then! You could always smack him across the head if that knocks sense into him - I think he's mad to fight real feelings for a preference!

His feelings for her are obvious, he talks about her a lot and about how he misses her if he doesn't see or hear from her for a few days. He's crazy about her!

His experience of Polish girls are so far, not good. Some short term relationships but the main one, his long term girlfriend cheated on him, badly (she didn't really hide it).

A smack to the head might do it. I think he's crazy to fight it. His most recent excuse was that he will go back to Poland in a couple of years and he couldn't leave her behind...so my reply "she might actually want to go with you..." but he seems to have it in his head he must marry a Polish girl...The thing is, he'll die if this other girl meets someone and settles down with him. That will break his heart, I know it. Tomorrow I will tell him he is crazy mad! And everyone agrees with me :)

Well I certainly do. You should [if you haven't already..] paint him that picture - how he will feel if she is with somebody else when he had a chance of happiness with her. Also if she knows that about him wishing to return to Poland - he should give her a chance to discuss it with him - you could be right! [he might not like this part but if he did give it a go he might not want to leave anyway in a couple of years...best not to say that I gather!]

You know, it's something I've avoided for a while because I know it will be such a deep discussion. However, we are very good friends and I think it's time he did something about this (or moves on). So, soon I will bring this up with him. She knows he has intentions of returning home on 2 or so years. However, last year he was in such a low mood he was planning on returning by Christmas so his mind changes sometimes.

Sometimes it's hard for me because I am the only one he discusses such deep feelings with. He really opens up so sometimes when I want to tell him he's crazy I don't because I am feeling sorry for him...but I'm going to be harsh this time... :)

It is good that he has you then because you are just trying to get him to see what is staring him in the face - if he likes her he should see what happens. Lol tough love from here on ;p Really it is just trying to push him in the right direction, or at least gently nudge if you don't want to be too harsh!

I think a giant shove might be more appropriate ;)

He listens to my woes as well so it's not all one-sided but now I am getting to the stage where I think he's going to miss out if he doesn't act soon. This girl, I am so sure she feels the same about him. We'll see what happens... :) Thanks :)

Good luck [to you and him!] - and let me know what happens. Giant shove it is lol!

Thank you :) I will let you know if anything changes...I think he's a little scared too so I will nudge him but probably nudge her as well. I have backing from another Polish friend of ours, a girl, who sees how good they would be together. We'll use peer pressure, it might work ;)